Maybe We Can Agree on this?

Um not all of the population has been allowed to vote since the constitution was ratified

The 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified in 1870 to protect the suffrage of freedmen

Even then you had certain states that required proof of poll tax payment or littrecy before allowing elements of the community to vote, then there was the 8 box law in south carolina brought in by the Democrats LOL

July 2, President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. This Act prohibited segregation in public places and barred unequal application of voter registration requirements. It did not abolish literacy tests, however, and these had been used to disqualify African Americans and poor white voters.

The National Voting Rights Act of 1965 outlawed discriminatory voting practices Congress has amended and extended the Act several times since its original passage, the most recent being the 25-year extension signed by President George W. Bush against the wishes of some in his own party.


The 19th Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits each of the states and the federal government from denying any citizen the right to vote because of that citizen's sex. It was ratified on August 18, 1920

 

The world

In and imperfect world , there are only perfect ideas.

Pep

 

Forget it...you are wasting your time. My hope for the future is that "natural selection" will deal with these village idiots.

Face it Elmosworld...if you can somehow force the village idiots into a point-counterpoint argument, you must keep in mind that their retorts will bear no relation to what you've said -- unless you were in fact talking about your looks, your age, your weight, your personal obsessions, or whether you are a fascist or hate monger...or whatever label they can muster up in their mud.

People like our village idiots will leap from one idiotic point to the next, so you will never nail them.

You might as well as well have a debate with somebody with A.D.D.

 

Thank you Midas been feeling like I have been jousting with windmills as of late. I guess in one way this helps me understand better, why we are having such a difficult time getting back on track.( Moderate government, with limited powers.)

 

Hahahahaha Holy cow! Well I guess things are better for you now. You have an ally. and what an ally. do you know Midas is a bigot? He hates HATES muslims. I mean he hates them. Why? Because they are muslims. Yes sir youve got a strong link with him at your side. I noticed you thanked him because he agrees with you. thats great. I thought this was a place for different opinions. You got all upset and accused me of dissecting everything. No. Thats not true. I saw flaws in that video you posted and disagreed with it. So you got all defensive, like a little kid. I actually agree with your paying the welfare back idea. but one thing? its extremely difficult to get welfare if you are single. In most cases its a single mother with a few kids. So when do they get the time to go to college if they need to be home for the little ones? Now back to Midas being on your side. He's retarded! He thinks the rumor of Gen. Pershing ordering him men to saok thier bullets in pigs blood to shoot muslims as well as putting suasages or some crap on the bodies is true. Yep; he thinks it true. And dont try to change his mind. He was there, so he knows. Maybe in the future you can also get an alliance with Travis Bickle and Mark David Chapman too. Since you have such sour grapes when someone doubts your posts, I will no longer play with a baby.

 

That might be a loss if you would actually debate the facts. It might of been mean of me to let you chase your tail a bit. Then when I explained what the message they wanted the viewers to get, you rambled some more. Truthfully you think you are going to upset me because he hates Muslims really?

Craig you barely got my attention. I do not upset easy, truly had you upset me I would of dealt with your absurdities by being as absurd and said, " got it coffee and doughnuts Craig thanx)

I think you are the one that got upset when I debunked what the founding fathers intended for us, in contrast to your democratic republic by reciting the pledge of allegiance.

As far as your welfare comment, their are plenty of single moms that have 2 or more children working full time jobs. If they can do it I am sure it is not to much to ask for the woman on welfare to go to college. Unless of course she can do that without public assistance, then I say we are better off.

 

Never mind the topic at hand. This is exactly what I posted:

If you can somehow force the village idiots like craig into a point-counterpoint argument, his retorts will bear no relation to what you've said -- unless you were in fact talking about your looks, your age, your weight, your personal obsessions, or whether you are a fascist or hate monger...

This is all he has...has...and will have.

BTW...yes I do 'hate' enemies of our country and culture. I dispise them no differantly then those that hated the Nazis or the Japs of World War II. Thank God there were those that wanted to defeat those animals instead of employing diplomatic appeasement.

Craig may want to have tea with these animals, I believe we have to fight them for what they believe, their actions (past and present) and their resolve to destroy us and all of western civilization.

If that makes me a 'hate' monger...so be it.

Good luck Elmosworld...you can articulate your arguments all you wish, but remember who you are talking to. Just wait for Craig's rebuttle because it will not address any of your well thought out and articulated comments.

 

Well well. I had you all wrong. You arent a bigot. Youre a patriot. You hate muslims for America's sake. What a guy! I just wish you had the courage to say that you hate muslims because you hate muslims. Not hide behind the flag so you can feel better about it. You and people like you make me sick. Why dont you enlist? With your fervent patriotic hatred, we can have the troops home by Christmas. You must be some miserable S.O.B. All that hate inside.

 

Hey Craig, Muslims hide behind their religion to hate us, I find it fair to hate them in the name of patriotism. Here in America we can hate who we want, but for the most part we never even threaten their lives, much less those that remind us of those we hate. We do not learn at a young age, to strap a bomb on ourselves and chant some prayer, or shout "death to the infidel."

As far as enlisting, been there done that and yes, I was willing to fight to protect your rights as well. I was spun up for Desert Storm, was attached to the guard unit here. Had that unit been called to active duty, we would of been shipped to the meps station, and from there I would be attached to my old unit.I tried to trash my orders and re-enlist but because I all ready had orders cut, I had to keep things as they were.

 

Midas. I see you now have a mouthpiece. Wow. You dont even need to reply to posts. Someone does that for you now. Yesiree. Its a great day for bigots all over the country. You now have a reprsenitive.

 

As we remember today what muslim animals did to us on 9/11/2001, you can vilify me all you wish because I hate those that wish to kill us and wipe western civilization off of the glode.

I don't dance around it. I stand by my statements. I back up my statements. I have and can document WHY we need to fight islamic animals no differantly than a cancer that invades a healthy body.

I am just glad the likes of you were not around when we were taking on the Nazis and Japs of World War II. Yes...it was okay to hate and kill the enemy. You may wish to have a beer with them, I believe the only thing muslim animals understand is bullet in their head and direct pass to muslim paradise with 72 virgins. The core of their religion is based on this.

After all, we didn't stand this madness, but we are being forced to fight and defend ourself from it...just like we did back in 1941.

Evil wins when good does nothing. I prefer we DO something.

 

Just a side note it, amazes me that the muslims pray to an inferior god. I mean if their god was all powerful we would never of been born to begin with. So since all these infidels got through, if you do your part to clean up my mess I will bless you with 72 virgins.


JMO

 

I could care less who and what you pray to...it really is nobody's business.

However, once you start getting in my face about it and in the historical case of islam where it is a duty of every muslim to convert, tax, enslave and/or kill infidels (per the koran and life of their founding terrorist/pedophile prophet), then I take offense to this and then become a "hate-monger" for islamic appeasers and apoligists to attack.

BFD...

 

And of course using your logic if the Christian god is so all powerful then we shoudnt have problems with the muslims now should we?

 

I am not about to nor do I believe, this forum would be up to a debate on God or religion. Suffice it to say sir, it is your right to practice or believe what ever religion you choose. How ever when your religion breaks the laws of the land, there are consequences. I will however venture far enough to say I am unaware of another religion that clearly states the job of the believers is to cleanse the planet of these non believers in such an absolute way.

Please do not confuse apartheid, or Nazism or the other whack jobs as a recognized religion.

 

And would you Sir kindly explain what on earth you are talking about?
I do not believe I mentioned what my religion was nor did I ask what yours was so how would you know mine broke the law? Do you know me? have you actualy met me? then kindly do not make assumptions
Now again I did not mention apartheid, or Nazism or the other whack jobs as a recognized religion those Sir were mentioned by you!
You Sir made the statement that Muslims and I quote Pray to a Inferior God so I simply expounded quite logicaly on your wonderful theory.
Now as for discussing religion and God that Sir takes place quite a lot on this form if you take the time to check so again Sir please do not put down the capcity of our members to discuss it.

 

DeOrc funny you are trying to find debate in my comments. I do not believe I have ever presumed to know your religion, or you personally. I kept my thoughts and statements in line with my original on the Muslim beliefs. It was you that thought it would be productive to offer a counterpoint on the christian faith. " And of course using your logic if the Christian god is so all powerful then we shouldnt have problems with the muslims now should we?"

As far as discussing religion in regards to intelligence, that is your interpretation. I was merely implying that it is senseless to engage in a theological discussion. As you have pointed out it is none of my business your belief or non belief system. Further more it makes no difference to me. However I totally agree, what I believe is none of your business and I do not require your consent nor your comments to qualify my belief system.

I do fully believe DeOrc with the intelligence you have displayed on these boards, that you are more than capable to grasp the fact. Breaking the law is breaking the law regardless of motives or belief systems.

 

You are more than a little racist aren't you?

 

I am curious why you would even begin to think I am racist?