It's far past the time we put the victims of gun violence on TV

So, the intruders had a gun? I wonder which political party made sure that they had unfettered access to that to allow them to threaten homeowners?

Thanks for making my point.

 

You do realize that this is akin to wrapping a leaking waterline with duct tape don't you? Sure you may slow down or even stop the leak for a while.... But the problem still exists. Why are you so opposed to facing the root of this problem?

 

You 100 percent correct.

 

Moen. You have the Democrats and Bill Clinton to blame for the spike in shootings.
People who used to be denied accessing to guns can now by them for even if it is still illegal for them to due to

 

Question is….Did Democrats sabotaged Gun background checks on purchase when they pushed and passed HIPPA to cause the violence so they can take guns away from millions of law abiding citizens.

 

THE "ROOT OF THE PROBLEM" IS GUNS!!!

It worked in other countries. Look at Australia. The only people that were allowed to have guns were those that had a working need like farmers, ranchers, and hunters. This insane crap Right-wing nonsense that postulates that we all need more guns to be safer couldn't be easier to disprove. We have twice as many guns on the streets as we had 10 years ago. Are we twice as safe? Hardly. Why are you so unwilling to see guns as the problem? They clearly are by any measure.

 

Because all crime is on the rise. And the root of it all is morality. When I went to high school, the rich kids with cars kept their rifles on display on racks in their vehicles and nobody had a care. Mental health and morality in this nation have been eroding because they are under attack. Go ahead and take the guns. Heck, the criminally minded will run you over or build a pipe bomb. It makes no difference until you address the problem. The problem is not the weapons. It is the mindset of the sick individuals that commit these atrocities. And that particular pot is being stirred by the democratic party. I'm sorry, but that is the fact.

 

I'm sorry, your opinions are not facts. They are still just opinions. You've posted not a single fact.

Now, exactly whose morality would we be indoctrinating people with? Yours? Mine? The man in the moons? What is this morality you keep harping about. Is it written down somewhere?

BTW This is what a fact looks like:



Does it look like crime is increasing or decreasing?

 

No you wouldn’t. You would fall to your knees begging and crying for the life of your children. At least, I hope you would. And all the while you would pray to God that you had a gun.

 

I'm not anything like you. And I thank God every day for that.

 

Yes. It’s the good book. It worked pretty well almost two millennia. Now that we are too educated to give it any merit, look how thing have transpired.

 

Well, that makes two of us.

Oh, and good luck defending your family if ever needed. Luck is all you have.

 

Back to the topic. Perhaps I was slightly ahead of the curve. People are beginning to see the value of putting these images of horribly mutilated bodies online for people to see if they choose to see them. It's a start.

Graphic images of Texas mall shooting spread on Twitter, rekindling debate on how much to share

By Catherine Thorbecke
Published 3:10 PM EDT, Mon May 8, 2023

Within hours of the mass shooting on Saturday at a Texas outlet mall, some Twitter users shared gruesome pictures of bloodied bodies, purportedly from the crime scene. At least one image appeared to be of a child.

These images were harder to avoid on the platform, according to some users, in part because they were shared from accounts that had paid to be verified – an option introduced under owner Elon Musk that can elevate the visibility of a user’s tweets.

“Graphic material often found its way onto Twitter in the past but it was more likely to be downranked and hard to find,” Emily Bell, director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University, said in a tweet. “The new screwed up system seems to prioritize these vile accounts and presents material at the top of the feed. Awful.”
Jennifer Mascia, a CNN contributor and senior news writer at The Trace, a non-profit journalism outlet devoted to gun-related news, said the images “were unavoidable.” She added: “I was shocked that that video and those images stayed on Twitter as long as they did… In a different era of Twitter, they wouldn’t have been circulating, they would have been taken off immediately.”

Twitter, which has cut much of its public relations team, did not respond to a request for comment.

The apparent spread of these images has revived scrutiny around how social media platforms handle graphic content from mass shootings. Social media platforms typically have policies that restrict sharing graphic content, with certain exceptions. On Twitter, for example, users are technically prohibited from sharing content that shows “gratuitous gore,” a category that includes “dismembered or mutilated humans.” Other forms of graphic media may be allowed, as long as the user marks their account as sensitive.

But it has also reignited a larger debate around the potential value of sharing graphic pictures to shape the public discourse at a time when mass shootings happen regularly in the United States.

There have been 202 mass shootings in the US within the first five months of this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, compared to 647 mass shootings in 2022. The nonprofit and CNN define mass shootings as those in which four or more people are shot, excluding the shooter.

The attack on Saturday was the second-deadliest US mass shooting of the year so far. Eight people were killed and at least seven others wounded when a gunman opened fire at the outlet mall in Allen, Texas, according to local officials.

In an interview with CNN affiliate KTVT on Sunday, Steven Spainhouer, an Army veteran and former police officer who helped administer first aid at the scene, described the horror he encountered. “The first girl I walked up to … I felt for a pulse, pulled her head to the side, and she had no face,” he said.

But in a tweet Saturday night, Spainhouer slammed a photo from the mall being shared on social media. “I do not want to see the photo floating around on social media, taken while I was calling 911 and trying to render aid at the Allen Outlets,” he wrote. “The least you could have done is help, not take photos of people at death’s doorstep.”

Mascia, meanwhile, said she was “shocked at how many people” were debating the merits of posting such pictures. Some, she said, may not have wanted to post the images themselves but also felt that “maybe it’s time we have to talk about this.”

The reckoning over whether to show the public gruesome images of violent acts dates back decades in the United States. In 1955, an image of a murdered Black teenager was published in Jet Magazine at the urging of his mother.

This haunting picture of Emmett Till’s mutilated body was seared into the minds of many as an enduring image of the racist violence of the era – and many linked the publication of the image to helping galvanize Americans to join in the Civil Rights movement.

More recently, the debate reemerged as Americans reacted with shock and horror to the deadly school shooting that took place less than a year ago in Uvalde, Texas.

“It’s time, with the permission of a surviving parent, to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like,” David Boardman, the dean of the Klein College of Media and Communication at Temple University, tweeted in the aftermath of the shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde that left nineteen children and two adults dead.

Boardmen added in his tweet at the time that he “couldn’t have imagined saying this years ago,” but argued that by showing the public these images, “Maybe only then will we find the courage for more than thoughts and prayers.

Graphic images of Texas mall shooting spread on Twitter, rekindling debate on how much to share | CNN Business

 

You have no problem posting dead bodies for everyone to see. Would you have a problem posting the dead bodies that biden is responsible for?

 

Typical Commie tactic - take the guns! Girlie men & furry animals fear guns. Real men AND WOMEN grew up with them, train with them and use them

The root of the problem is people. The bad actors, the sick actors AND THE DEMONCRATS THAT EXCUSE CRIMINALS! Actually, the demoncrats outnumber the criminals so they are the worst problem!

Dead criminals don't do crimes.

Let me give you an example Chin-Chin. There is an extremely ignorant, English language challenged, biased, old lonely shut-in snowflake terrorizing the place. Do we take his computer away? No. He'll get another one or he'll start terrorizing us with phone calls. The ONLY SOLUTION IS TO GET RID OF HIM. That puts an end to the problem.

That should be very clear to anyone over four years old.
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An ignorant mind is a sad thing to witness.

 

As much as such images might turn off and have an effect on the most sane of us, your solution is all wrong. It does not seem to be the most sane who are acting out, but those most impressionable, most separable from reality, who have been drawn deep into the grey between black and white.

These recalcitrants have been desensitized by their surroundings, and live for defying societal norms and being recognized for it.

You are kissing the arse end of the horse, thinking that putting more gory images in front of people will reduce this violence. Rather than showing more edgy, graphic, downright offensive material, we should be putting our feet down, and insisting on less . . . from the internet to Hollywood and everything in between.

 

Think about how showing the carnage during the Vietnam War changed America's opinion about the war.

 

This thread is not about war overseas, where savagery and brutality, sadly, are a fact of life.

It's about civil conduct within our borders, and finding ways to make violence less sensational than it has come to be.

If we can't first fix the latter, the former will fix itself, because life in America will not be worth fighting to defend.

 

What a stupid ignorant post! News flash for all the other America Haters:

The US was winning the war. The fake media, demoncrats, and the stupid ignorant college kids were riled up by commies inside the US. The images were only a small part of the effort to help the Commies. (Red Chinese compromised Biden has done worse!) I WAS THERE. I ATTENDED SEVERAL COMMIE MEETINGS with two Commie co-workers trying to organize "activities." It was no secret. They debated patriotic students AS COMMUNISTS. They rioted at my University and took over buildings. There were tear gas splotches all over the streets. Cops were chasing rioters. Me and a bunch of frat guys spent several hours barricaded on a building roof throwing firecrackers, beer, rotten fruit, stones and water balloons on the SDS commie "worms" and the ignorant monkeys doing their dirty work!

My only regret on that day of fun was that military snipers did not "pick-off" the commie leaders of the riots who were not even students! That would have put a quick end to the riots the ignorant duped rats ran for cover.

Dead Commie rioters don't riot.
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There is more than one stupid person posting in this thread.

 

Funny, that's exactly how the u.s. looks from the outside