It Was Only A Matter Of Time Before This Began.......

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CoinOKC, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. CoinOKC
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    He was silenced by the pro-Obamacare zombies. He still stands by what he said.
     
  2. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    The real issue with these silly Repulican sore losers has nothing to do with additional business costs real or imagined. Every business deals with increased business costs from raw supplies to logistics. It is part and parcel of owning a business. These Fox supplied stories of angry Right-winger railing against increased business costs are just part of the propaganda Fox is pushing.
    Our local bagel baker had his flour costs go from $6 dollars a bag to over $20 a bag in less than 6 months. Flour is a fairly important ingredient in his business and he simply raised the cost of each bagel a little bit. That is how it works. He didn't need to alert the media that flour went up and he was going to probably lay off employees, he simply increased his prices a little.
    The backlash from the public that really do not want to see their restaurant choices politicized is all that it takes to shut up these arrogant loudmouth Right-wing idiots. Either that or the franchising company pulling their name from these morons. Ask Metz how well his whining worked out for him.
     
  3. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    He was silenced by the organization that owned the franchise that Metz was harming with his big mouth and stupid publicity. How do you know that he stands by what he said? Oh yeah, you don't.

    And then we have this....

    The owner’s surly comments were met with immediate backlash, calls for a boycott and declining sales at some locations. Denny’s CEO John Miller even contacted Metz privately to express disappointment in Metz’s statements and their reflection on the chain as a whole. Monday night, Metz publicly expressed regret over his statements.
     
  4. CoinOKC
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    Metz:
    "We regret that the statements we made may have been interpreted as representative of the Denny’s brand or of other franchisees, which they are not."
    He's not apologizing for what he said. He's regretting that his statement was misinterpreted. Good for him!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/john-metz-dennys-obamacare-surcharge-_n_2146735.html
    Like I said, "Obamacare zombies".
     
  5. JoeNation
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    Why Denny's is in damage-control mode
    By Steve Benen - Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST



    In the wake of President Obama's re-election, a few restaurant chains raised eyebrows by making threats related to the Affordable Care Act. An Applebees franchise owner, for example, vowed to stop building and hiring because of the health-care law.

    But it was a Denny's franchise owner, John Metz, who caused the biggest stir, publicly declaring his intention to impose a 5 percent surcharge on customers at his 30 Denny's outlets to offset "Obamacare" costs. "Customers have two choices: They can either pay it and tip 15 or 20 percent, or if they really feel so inclined, they can reduce the amount of tip they give to the server," Metz said.

    The backlash didn't take long. Denny's diners, including many that aren't owned by Metz, immediately saw a drop in sales, and were inundated with phone calls from angry customers. With other franchise owners panicking due to boycott threats, the corporate office is in damage-control mode.

    Denny's chief executive John Miller privately reached out to Metz to express his "disappointment" with the Florida franchisee's controversial statements about Obamacare, which sparked a wave of backlash for the national restaurant chain over the past few days. Metz released a statement Monday night expressing "regret" over his statements.

    "We recognize his right to speak on issues, but registered our disappointment that his comments have been interpreted as the company's position," Miller said in an email to The Huffington Post.

    "Unfortunately, the comments of this franchisee, who represents less than 1 percent of our system and who owns restaurants in other concepts, has been portrayed as reflective of the entire Denny's brand," Miller added. "I am confident his perspective is not shared by the company or hundreds of franchisees/small business owners who make up the majority of the Denny's community."

    For his part, Metz is in full retreat, issuing a statement denouncing the surcharge he defended last week.

    But stepping back, there's a larger question to consider: why are guys like Metz griping so much about the health care law?

    Small businesses with fewer than 25 employees will make out like bandits under the Affordable Care Act, with very generous subsidies to extend coverage to their employees. What's more, larger businesses that already provide insurance have nothing to worry about.

    But if you're a Denny's franchise owner who doesn't offer health care benefits, and you have low-wage employees who are about to get coverage under the law, you're probably going to have to start chipping in or face a tax penalty.

    Matthew Yglesias had a good piece on this yesterday, making the case that the law's requirements have merit.

    John Schnatter, CEO of Papa John's and a major Mitt Romney donor and fundraiser, gave us a hint in an August call with shareholders when he complained that it would raise costs about 11 to 14 cents per pizza. That's peanuts. Between variations in sales taxes, fluctuations in ingredient costs, and place-to-place differences in rents, any food chain is used to dealing with price swings on this magnitude. At worst, an increase in labor costs along these lines is going to mean that cash wages in the service sector grow at a modestly slower rate for the next year or two.

    That said, there is good reason to be generally skeptical of the idea that legislative fiat can increase workers' compensation. Compensation is ultimately going to be driven by productivity, not the whims of Congress. But if there was ever a good time to give it a shot, it's probably now. The labor compensation share of overall economic output has historically fluctuated in a narrow range, but it fell steadily in the post-dot-com era before completely collapsing during the Great Recession. The existence of a glut of unemployed workers during the past few years of recovery has prevented the fruits of economic growth from being shared with most workers. Consequently, after-tax corporate profits as a share of GDP have soared to a record level.

    In other words, if there was ever a time when firms were prepared to eat higher costs because of reduced profits that time is today.

    Ezra Klein added that guys like Metz really shouldn't complain too much -- under previous reform plans, presented by Democrats and Republicans, employers' burdens were much more onerous. Instead, under "Obamacare," some business will face slightly higher costs.
     
  6. CoinOKC
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  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Sooooooo...the hard cold reality is that the ripple effect of Obamacare is causing the price of goods to increase & people to lose their jobs...it just doesn't make good business sense to be honest about it?
    This sounds like a lot of BO's other failed policies, just don't talk about them!
     
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  8. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    The hard cold reality is that you're an idiot. Apparently, covering another 20 million people isn't worth adding another 17 cents to your pizza. Hey idiot, skip the extra cheese next time and you've got it covered.
     
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  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    ...and now with the name calling...Good answer!

    So typical of lil joe moen & his ilk!
    Unfortunately, I am not able to repond in kind because lil joe has run to the moderators for protection & I've been told I'll get banned if I call him names (apparently he is free to operate as he wishes but I cannot).

    NO DAVID HE DID NOT RUN TO THE MODS, YOU COMMENTS WERE REMOVED BECAUSE THEY BROKE THE FORUM RULES AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU IN A PM
     
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  10. Stujoe

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    Personally I don't want a surcharge for every business expense there is. I don't want an Obamacare surcharge any more than I want a Gas Went Up surcharge on my groceries or a 2012 Drought surcharge on my corn or a Hurricane Sandy surcharge on whatever it is, if anything, that New Yorkers produce.

    Just pass the Obamacare costs off on the consumer like any other extra business expense. And just tell me how much my damn Grand Slam is on the menu. I don't want to wait and find out at the cash register what extra business expenses I am going to be paying.
     
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  11. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    How does that commercial go....? "I like winning!" "You like whining." The things you write ARE idiotic therefore I have to conclude that you ARE an idiot. I guess I could say everything you write is poorly articulated, parroted from Fox, has little if any thought behind it, but just calling you an idiot pretty much covers all that.
     
  12. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Since when can't we call Little Joe an idiot? Or an ignoramus? Or a dumbass? Or stupid? Or a numbskull? Or a pinhead? Or a dunce? Or a moron? Or a parrot? Or a loudmouth? Or a liberal? Did they come out with some new rules on this forum?

    NO THOSE SORT OF COMMENTS WERE NOT REMOVED FROM DAVIDS POST
     
  13. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    If there is a choice between listening to you two parrot Fox talking points or you two calling me names, I'll take the name calling. I prefer to hear your negative characterization me to your ignorant spewing of total extremist Right-wing nonsense even after your idiotic points have been completely refuted. Watching people unable to accept the reality the rest of us take for granted gets old and boring.
     
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  14. clembo

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    There you go being all sensible and stuff Stu.

    Seriously Metz has the right to make such statements and/or threats but perhaps he should have put on his thinking cap on before he did so.

    He failed to take into account that there are more Denny's than his and unfortunately other franchisees are suffering from this. I'm sure he's real popular with them right now.

    I would LOVE to go into one of his establishments and order a cup of tea which I would GLADLY pay an extra 5% for.

    Then I would tip the server $10 and express my regrets that they work for a rectal wonder.:eek:

    I would love to see a LOT of people do that actually but focus on the Metz run establishments.

    Customer count up, sales down but servers making some great tips!

    Of course then he might threaten layoffs so you'd only do this for a few days.

    Consumers CAN send a message.
     
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  17. Themistokles480

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    View attachment 936 You lie worse than your favorite station! lmao! View attachment 936
     
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  18. rlm's cents
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    Remember my mentioning that our friends would close there restaurants if Obamacare went through. Will, it did and they did.

    OKC, perhaps you have heard of Coits Root Beer.
     
  19. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You have an interesting take on the facts, that is if lying is an interesting take. Seems that they were closing their restaurants long before Obama was even president. I guess they must have been psychics and somehow predicted Obamacare. Besides, with the few restaurants they had left, they couldn't of had 50 employees total.

    http://newsok.com/coits-drive-ins-up-for-sale/article/3625976

    http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?46354-Coit-s-Root-Beer-closed-it-s-doors-yesterday
     
  20. rlm's cents
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    Boy, can you read into it your own slant. Yes, they were for sale, but not really. They were not going to close, but Obamacare made them unprofitable. And that is straight from the horse mouth.
     

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