It Has Begun

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CoinOKC, Jan 22, 2025.

  1. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    What do you mean? She did a fine job
     
  2. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    Really? The BLS has done a “fine” job? This response is not surprising given that you have stated that Tim Waltz was a good candidate.
     
  3. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Please, elaborate on what they did wrong and how you know.
     
  4. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    He also likes Mandami if that tells you anything.
     
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  5. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    Not surprising.
     
  6. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    They are always wrong on first reports much like the “nonpartisan CBO”. Yeah… they are never wrong are they.
    Please, tell us what in the holly hell they got right in the last 20 years???
     
  7. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Yes, but they're as good as it gets. You want speed and a general sense of how things are going? You get frequent reports that get updated as more data comes in. Why is firing the messenger a good idea? What will the new person do better?
     
  8. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Be serious and honest with yourself. The data has not been reliable from that office for years. And it certainly does have the appearance of having partisan based revisions more than once…… And in all fairness the numbers were reliable prior to Covid. But here now years later, there has been more than ample time to correct the problem…… I cannot do my job unreliably for three years and neither can you. If my numbers are unreliable I don’t win work. If your numbers are unreliable people get sick… Or worse…… So be honest with yourself on this one.
     
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  9. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    You're wrong, the preliminary reports are always wrong, that's the tradeoff for the speed at which we get them.

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    I'm also not seeing this supposed partisan bias
     
  10. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    Ok, they “are good as it gets”. Please name one government agency that is accurate, efficient, and economically sound. Just one is ok.
    If the head of a government agency, or the mouthpiece for it, puts out poor data (constantly) they need to be fired, period.
    The Private sector would never put up this incompetence.
     
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  11. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    They are good. After the revisions. People want the early estimates so they can plan accordingly and get an approximation of how things are going. I guess quit paying attention to the early estimates if you're so worked up?
     
  12. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I'm just curious where you got that chart. Was it on Facebook? Or X? The word "Payroll" is misspelled, so I'm doubting it's an actual government-produced chart.
     
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  13. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Typo, redditor made it using this source data:
    https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

    https://www.bls.gov/bls/news-release/empsit.htm

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    Fascinatingly (terrifyingly?) it appears BLS just took down those databases

    Edit: maybe I'm having trouble accessing from foreign servers? .gov addresses don't always play nice with overseas access.

    Edit 2: yes, got through with VPN
     
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  14. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    Are you drunk, or on crack Hunter? Your post makes little to no sense.
     
  15. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Just like Trump. Can't refute the data, attack the messenger.
     
  16. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    Look dumbass… this imbecile refuted their own data. Please, by all means prove me wrong!
    Firing incompetent employees is the best policy. What you say @charley?
     
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  17. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Thank you for asking, Mr. Profiler.

    I will address you, and not our esteemed Expat.

    It is best to start with Title29, USC Ch1: Labor Statistics.

    Doing so, will clarify that the Commissioner reports to the Secretary of Labor, and the Commissioner is under the DIRECTION OF THE SECRETARY OF LABOR.

    The stated document will also clarify that THE SECRETARY OF LABOR has the power to...well...basically, control any and every aspect of the operation of the Farm, to collate, rearrange, distribute or consolidate or add data/people/physical assets/etc. as THE SECRETARY OF LABOR may deem desirable in the PUBLIC INTERESTS (note the deliberate plural of the word "interests").

    The SECRETARY OF LABOR is a Cabinet position, reporting to POTUS. The BLS COMMISSIONER IS NOT, and serves at the pleasure of POTUS....WITH....OR WITHOUT.....CAUSE, the same as the Secretary of Labor.

    CEO goofs, Board says thank you for serving. You are not needed anymore.

    The situation is simple: it is the lesson we all learned (hopefully) from our Mom and Dad: work hard, do as directed by your Boss(es), and don't complain. Just shut up and do what you are told.

    Maybe a certain Commissioner should have listened to the SECRETARY AND POTUS and performed, as instructed, by POTUS AND THE SECRETARY OF LABOR, THAT MAY BE DEEMED IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

    To continue to not serve the PUBLIC INTERESTS (in total) will add you to the unemployment total, causing that statistic to be skewed, since it is a self-inflicted unemployment status.
     
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  18. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Thing is we have accepted below average performance from all levels of the Fed for so long now that it just astounds young people that marginal performers need to be let go.
     
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  19. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    It's not low performance. It's incomplete totals. Just wait for the full report if you want accuracy. This is just repackaged "STOP THE COUNT" all over again
     
  20. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    It’s not “low performance “. I’m sure you believe it’s not incompetence ether right? Why? Please post data that supports your position.
     

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