It Has Begun

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CoinOKC, Jan 22, 2025.

  1. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Honestly.... All these gotcha catchwords and political theater dramatics are wearing thin.
     
  2. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    He enjoys nailing jelly to the wall.
     
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  3. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I suspect you really don't know what "fascism" is. It's a word that today's liberals bandy about without knowing that THEY are the true fascists.

    Here's a book you should read before you start spewing the "fascism" lie.

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    The synopsis of the book from Amazon.com:

    “Fascists,” “Brownshirts,” “jackbooted stormtroopers”—such are the insults typically hurled at conservatives by their liberal opponents. Calling someone a fascist is the fastest way to shut them up, defining their views as beyond the political pale. But who are the real fascists in our midst?Liberal Fascism offers a startling new perspective on the theories and practices that define fascist politics. Replacing conveniently manufactured myths with surprising and enlightening research, Jonah Goldberg reminds us that the original fascists were really on the left, and that liberals from Woodrow Wilson to FDR to Hillary Clinton have advocated policies and principles remarkably similar to those of Hitler's National Socialism and Mussolini's Fascism.

    Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence the term “National socialism”). They believed in free health care and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking, supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict racial quota system in their universities—where campus speech codes were all the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist.

    Do these striking parallels mean that today’s liberals are genocidal maniacs, intent on conquering the world and imposing a new racial order? Not at all. Yet it is hard to deny that modern progressivism and classical fascism shared the same intellectual roots. We often forget, for example, that Mussolini and Hitler had many admirers in the United States. W.E.B. Du Bois was inspired by Hitler's Germany, and Irving Berlin praised Mussolini in song. Many fascist tenets were espoused by American progressives like John Dewey and Woodrow Wilson, and FDR incorporated fascist policies in the New Deal.

    Fascism was an international movement that appeared in different forms in different countries, depending on the vagaries of national culture and temperament. In Germany, fascism appeared as genocidal racist nationalism. In America, it took a “friendlier,” more liberal form. The modern heirs of this “friendly fascist” tradition include the New York Times, the Democratic Party, the Ivy League professoriate, and the liberals of Hollywood. The quintessential Liberal Fascist isn't an SS storm trooper; it is a female grade school teacher with an education degree from Brown or Swarthmore.

    These assertions may sound strange to modern ears, but that is because we have forgotten what fascism is. In this angry, funny, smart, contentious book, Jonah Goldberg turns our preconceptions inside out and shows us the true meaning of Liberal Fascism.

    https://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841
     
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  4. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    CoinOKC:

    I wish you would stop doing my job.
    Of late, your commentary appears to be Charley Plagiarism.

    So, just stop it, OK?
     
  5. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    The author has essentially said he was partly wrong in that book and Trump was the one who changed his mind

    https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/what-i-got-wrong-about-fascism/
     
  6. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    LOL! He was referring to Jan 6 which, we all know, was not caused by President Trump who said to march peacefully. So, Goldberg was wrong about that. But, if you wish to remain ignorant about fascism and, especially, fascism on the Left then that is your business. I’m just giving you an opportunity to enlighten yourself.
     
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  7. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    On Armed Forces Day in 1977, 1978, and ,1979 I drove a tractor trailer with a 40’ nuclear missile in a parade through Lawton Oklahoma along with many of my compadres artillery pieces……… The parade brought the community together. Kids had a grand time and it was great for the soldiers morale as well…… If I hear one more shrill speaking, manbun wearing, bitchslap fighting liberal piss and moan about tomorrows Army parade, I think I’ll lose my sweet southern disposition. SHADDUP!
     
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  8. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Well, get ready to lose your sweet southern disposition, MD. The man buns are already out in full force. The ACLU is giving instructions to the man buns about what to do if they get arrested for violence. Now, what in the world would make the ACLU think these man buns will be arrested for violence?
     
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  9. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Maybe the administration assaulting and arresting tons of peaceful people and claiming they were violent?
     
  10. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Also, nobody wanna bring up Israel and Iran? I was told this kind of thing would never happen under Trump, that other countries were too afraid to step out of line...

    On a serious note though, I do think it's concerning for the world that he has no diplomatic skills and his one strategy: madman theory, is not being believed this time around.
     
  11. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    You’re not supposed to believe your lying eyes, you stupid Republican! Don’t you know anything? :rolleyes:
     
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  12. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    You are a smart enough fellow to recognize that failure at the top is failure for all. The last four years showed that. You sound like the guy that likes auto racing to watch how badly drivers get hurt when they crash.

    I’ll correct you. What Trump said was if he had been president, Putin would not have shown aggression. Trump said had he been president that Iranian backed terrorists would not have massacred women and Children….. Trump NEVER said he would prevent Israel from protecting its national security. I don’t believe that ever in the history of our nation have we been so arrogant as to intervene in our allies national security interests.
     
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  13. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    With war crimes? Before we get any further, yes, Iran did war crimes in response too. Both attacking civilian areas.

    I was sickened seeing the apartment buildings toppled in Tehran, and then again in Tel Aviv.

    Speaking of Putin, I'd say the plenty of attacks on Ukrainian citizens since Trump took office counts as "showing aggression"
     
  14. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    So, whose side are you taking - Israel or Iran?
     
  15. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    "Claiming" they were violent? CLAIMING!!!??? Hooo boy... what rock are you living under?
     
  16. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Pretty clearly neither. The side of the innocents in both places being killed if I have to pick.
     
  17. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Please share the videos of violent protestors getting arrested. I've got a ton of videos cops assaulting people that were doing nothing, and going way beyond into brutality. They are not acting as a peacekeeping force, they are agitating, often throwing the first blows.

    Every time you're told "the city is burning" keep this in mind

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    Turn off the news and watch the livestreams if your want to see what it's really like.
     
  18. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    No, from mushroom clouds.
     
  19. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

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    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

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