This is a question I've been trying to answer lately and so I will throw it on the community fire. Is it ever right to hate? As I understand the notion that hating is wrong is central to the Judeo-Christian belief system and I know it is in Buddhism and Taoism. I don't know enough about Islam or the other religions to comment on those. But then when you consider Hitler, Pol Pot or Pinoches, or Hussein and all the evil they've spawned, doesn't it seem nearly a duty to hate them? I was one of those veterans cursed on the street back in the day, you know, the baby-killer business and I started wondering then, can you hate a war and not hate the people fighting it? Anyway, I think people make too much of that. It was pretty weak, nothing compared to what a DI says when he's just getting you out of bed. Anyway, what do you guys think? Do we have a duty to hate evil and evil men?
I dont know to be honest, I have disliked folks and systems including the Brit version of a DI LOL but I have never hated I have known a few who did hate and I allways felt uneasy been round them possibly because I coudnt share that feeling I dont know Sorry I can not be more helpful on this
It's never good to hate. Hate destroys everything that is good. It's possible to disapprove of someone or his/her actions without hating.
Well, hate certainly exists in this world and, in many cases, for valid reasons (someone molests your child or kills your loved one, for example). I couldn't disagree with someone hating another person for such reasons, but is the hate "good"? I would say that hate itself isn't good, but it can sometimes be a catalyst for good. Take M.A.D.D. (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) for instance. The founder, Candice Lightner might never have given drunk drivers a second thought had her own daughter not been killed by one. M.A.D.D. has gone on to do a lot of good in the fight against drunk drivers and has assuredly saved countless lives.
Thanks everybody, but I think I screwed up the question. No one, I think, would say that hate is 'good.' The question should have been is hate ever justified? Are there things we are supposed to hate or are we called to forgive everything?
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Ronnie was it, Shame he didn't beat Ford. Then we might have never had Carter and then Iran still might be run by the Shah which leads to a number of terrorist organizations never exisiting and current problems not being. Islam was becoming westernized under the Shah who realized it was an arab religion. The time to defeat radical world wide muslim terrorism was a bullet away in France back in the 1970's.
I'm certain there would be changes under that scenario too and you very well could be right about Iran... hard to say ...but I think the most damaging, or at least visible, aspect of muslim terrorism stems from our military having bases in Saudi Arabia. Changing that in the past would seem to have even greater significance... at least in the short term... than the Shah's influence. I base that in a large part in how radical and varied the interpretations on the Koran (Qu'ran... whatever lol) are throughout the World... in how anyone with even a small amount of authority ...say, the elder in a small group of herders, or an isolated group of farmers... how just about anyone has the accepted right to teach their interpretations of the book to others. IMO, that's the most significant issue in combating future problems with radicalization. If the muslim community can convince the majority of muslims to accept a more limited right to teach the faith, or at least enforce a more rigid interpretation, then a large part of the battle will be won for all.
The reasonable populations of muslims World-wide surely realize the radicalization of their faith is a major issue, and it would be in their faith's best interest to take steps to minimize the occurances of that radicalization. In that respect, I would like to see them convene a second Council (or whatever) to decide on what is appropriate to teach and what isn't. They could model it after the first one, where the words and written accounts of Muhammed were debated and agreed on... eventually becoming the Koran.
The problem with Islam is that it was founded by a robber of caravans and rapist of women and children of small villages. It was written with hate from the mindset of hate and preaches death to all who do not submit and obey.
Dressing 'emo' in Iraq is getting teens killed 16 hrs ago Fourteen Iraqi youths have reportedly been stoned or beaten to death in the last month for dressing "emo." Shiite militias in Baghdad have labeled the teen trend "Satanism," and Reuters reports leaflets have been distributed targeting specific teens and promising "We are the Brigades of Anger. We warn you, if you do not get back to sanity and the right path, you will be killed." The interior ministry denies there is any connection between the violence and the rise of the trendy style of dressing. http://now.msn.com/now/0310-emo-iraqi-kids.aspx Some religions are used for hatred but in Islam there is only hatred for those who do not follow its dictates. Zero tolerance. Not how you read it, it says what it says straight out.
Killing someone because their hairstyle is different than your own is certainly proof enough to me that your beliefs are too extreme to warrant respect from me. "Do what I tell you to do or I kill you!" is the problem... it indicates absolutely no respect for other beliefs. On the positive side, not all influential muslims are supporting this example of extremism: http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/03/10/199751.html ...so there is hope yet for people to become more reasonable there.
Absolutely, hate can be justified. "Good" and "evil" are abstract human concepts, so I'm glad to see you rephrase the question. "Fair" and "just" however are at least somewhat more objective. It's ironic that you mention hate is considered wrong by the Judeo-Christian religions, when we see so much religiously motivated hatred in the world. I don't think this is because religion is inherently hateful, but humans certainly have the capacity for hate and religion gives its followers a 'carte blanche' to "justify" their personal hatred. When we instead use reason and logic to justify our actions and feelings, we are much less likely to come to conclusions that are unjust or unfair.
Seriously, someone from my younger days who was in his older days back then once said to me something along the lines of, "be careful of what you hate for once you hate you can become it." I really do not hate any one or any thing but try to understand it for what it is and either accept it as being different or realize that it is a threat and then that brings another line of thought. But here since this is an on line chat room so to speak, I play to other peoples emotions sometimes to see what it elicts. No malice intended. Just interest in the human reaction.
