Independent Group Confirms Global Warming

I guess that when NOLA starts planning Mardi Gras with the theme "Under Da Sea" I'll start to worry. Right now, there is nothing but idle speculation.

 

Honestly, I'm surprized you'd even say that some "experts" said 20 to 30 feet... I incorrectly assumed you were one of those "the Earth is flat!" people. My apologies.

 

True, and if your older it's not really your issue...

 

I'm 50. By the time I see this being an issue, they'll probably leave me to do backstroke in the rising waters as the staff abandons the nursing home.

 

Us older folk may remember the cold winters from the mid seventies to early nineteen eighies. In New York City during that time period the East River was frozen solid and people walked across it to get to work because the trains were not working due to icing of tracks. Buffalo New York was snowed in a number of times so bad that the national guard had to dig them out whereas some people were trapped for weeks inside their homes. it was such a bad cold spell that Time Magazine and the New York times had scientists stating that we were heading into another ice age and a major food shortage will occur because of this leading to all kinds of gloom and doom. So this is why some of us could care less what Fox news or Cnn states for we remember all the lies about the weather from ice ages to ten year hurricane cycles, etc. Never mind the nineteen seventies acid rain was going to totally wipe out all of the east coast forests.

 

At least they have the grace to admit their mistake. A rare quality on the right.

 

Okay, all of this is happening, but so did the little ice age and the warming period following it that enabled the Enlightenment, democracy and the industrial revolution.

 

From Time Magazine

As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age.

TIME Magazine Archive Article -- Another Ice Age? -- Jun. 24, 1974
TIME MAGAZINE ^| June 24, 1974 | Time Magazine
One of hundreds of articles written about another Ice Age coming during the mid seventies.

 

Is there really an independent group? Anywhere?

 

...then the 80's happened and those scientists really got confused. BTW, the Winter of '77/'78 was awesome here in the U.P.! It was a great time to be a kid, with all that record snowfall to play on/in.

 

Funny how some people think the media is really interested in the truth. Have no idea myself what's with the weather but time will tell and most likely not in our lifetimes unless the Northpole lava vents erupt.

 

I have already seen major changes in the weather patterns since 1989. I don't think people are going to have to wait that long.

 

I agree, and believe we have been seeing it for decades... we just have a hard time seeing it as abnormal. I'll have to research a bit but I'd say we've already seen an increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions over the last couple of decades but, again, given our limited life-spans and attention-spans, have errornously assumed this is the norm. I'm guessing we're in for another major event happening every other year or so as the new norm for the foreseeable future. We've had some major ones since Mt. St. Helens... but it looks like activity has increased since then... with Haiti, Indonesia, and Japan all having major events in recent years... as well as Chile, New Zealand, and others. Iceland has become quite active too, and is likely to remain active for years... eruptions every couple years are probably the new norm for that area. The arctic and Antarctic ice sheets are continuously thinning and calving, and at a much increased rate... and that's a concern for low-lying cities World-wide, particularly when you factor in an increase of earthquake-induced tsunamis, which are highly likely to occur at a greater rate now. Unless you're Republican of course, then all that is bs and should be ignored lol

 

Thank goodness for global warming or it might be a low of 18 degrees instead of 19 tonight in Chicago.

 

I call your average of 18 and give you a temperature of 46 F in Knoxville in bloody January and an expected high of 56 in January tomorrow. So far this winter we have had about 5 days where the temperature reached below freezing. Four degrees below freezing that is. So you can crow about how global warming isn't right because the temperature in Chicago is exactly where it should be today, but most of the rest of the country is showing above average temperatures.

For the record 2011 was the ninth warmest year since they started keeping the meteorological records in 1880 and nine of the tenth warmest years have happened since 2000. You can ignore the facts by focusing on a single cold day in a single month in a single city in a single country when the rest of the winter has been exceptionally warm if you want, but that doesn't mean anything.

First full January weekend is quiet and on the mild side

2011 9th Hottest Year on Record (NASA)

 

Here is the information from Phil Plait.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/20/2011-the-9th-hottest-year-on-record/

 

With all due respect numbers can be played with anyway a person wants to:

Florida's Coldest Winter in 30 Years



Mar 2, 2010; 7:44 PM ET

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Photo Courtesy Victoria Atkinson
Florida is in the middle of their coldest winter in three decades, and it's not over yet.
This winter has been the coldest in Florida since 1981, according to a recent report by the National Weather Service (NWS). Miami Beach is enduring it's second-coldest winter since records have been kept.
"We could see temperatures below freezing this week in northern and central Florida," said AccuWeather.com Senior Meteorologist Frank Strait.
These spots could have temperatures as low as the upper 20s.

 

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A truly faithful response. When faced with facts and numbers deny their validity because they contradict your personal opinion. Its really all you, the deniers, have now. Just like a religious follower confronted with the facts of evolution must turn away from evidence and rely on belief. The fact is that thousands, if not tens of thousands, of scientist have tested the numbers and find them correct. Independent reviews have been performed to check for falsification and none of them have found any. The only way that you can ignore their findings is to ignore their findings.​

BTW. Even the major denialist have conceded that the planet is actually warming up. They just won't agree that people are the cause.
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Nothing shown in my previous posting was my words it all came from a weather source
www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/floridas-coldest-winter-in-30/

Here is some more from TV stations and newspapers regarding what you said was one of the hottest years on record.

1. Panhandle Seeing Its Coldest Winter in 30 Years ​

http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/86427807.html​

2. Floridians have suffered through the coldest winter in almost 30 years. In some parts of South Florida, it’s been colder than anytime in the last 83 years​

heartland.org/policy-documents/2010-year-global-warming-froze-florida​

3. 2010 for east central florida was the coldest on record in almost 30 years ​

www.srh.noaa.gov/mlb/data.php?file=/summary/Winter2010.txtA

My previous post started with accuweater and this one ended with the governments National Weather Service

All based upon their numbers. Perhaps I am not the one following the drummer's tune or the pippers flute blindly. There is more going on then just what a democrat looking for either a cash payout or a politcal gain preaching the mantra of global warming and man's influence.​

 

Here is where our problem lies. I was being facetious when I referred to the unseasonably warm temperatures for Knoxville. TN. The fact that is it warm in Knoxville doesn't prove global warming. However, the fact that 95% of the country is unseasonably warms does. The fact that America had a cold winter in 2010 doesn't disprove the global changes. Concentrating on Florida to the exclusion of the rest of the records for 2010 is even worse. Lets look at some of the other records for 2010.

Nineteen countries around the world set records for heat maximums.


In addition, many other cities and countries hit records.

And despite the record cold in Florida NO country set a record for cold. In other words, despite the cold spell in Florida the United States, as a whole, did not break any records for cold weather.

For the record, sending me stuff from the Heartland Institute is pointless. Any organization that promotes the idea that no matter how hot it gets global warming is good for humanity is way outside my acceptability level.