I have found the Anti-Obama and I would vote for him

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PTD, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. PTD
    Fiendish

    PTD Administrator Moderator

    It's worth the watch the full way through.

     
  2. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I'll read his book!
     
  3. IQless1
    Blah

    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    16:40... treble-time for connection speed... looking like an hour or so to watch...

    ...no thanks, I shall pass...

    ...wouldn't have minded a summary or something in your OP though ;)
     
  4. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    It is Penn (of Penn and Teller) Jillette on Atheism and Libertarianism. That is about as much as I can sum it up. lol

    I am not an atheist but I have heard Penn interviewed before and I think he is a very intelligent individual who believe the same way I do on a lot of things as far as politics and societal issues.
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I find that the people that push for libertarianism are mostly the people that are already at the top of the ladder. If you happen to be poor, a minority, have 200+ years of slavery in your family history, or are a recent immigrant, there is little chance that you'd have a vested interest in preserving the status quo of white privilege. As far as atheism goes, atheists are as sure that God doesn't exist as the religious crowd is sure that God doesn't exist. How could either really know?
     
  6. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    You can be left libertarian aka libertarian socialism (think of a commune. Noam Chomsky even considers himself a libertarian socialist anarchist) or right libertarian (pretty much Ron Paul and the Libertarian Party in the US) or various forms of an anarchist or anything in between. Libertarianism is about individual liberty. It is not a particular economic system. There is a lot of Libertarianism in some of the Democratic party's platforms as there is in a lot of what the ACLU fights for.
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    When I think of a Libertarian, I immediately picture someone whose main goal is to legalize drugs. Right or wrong, it just seems that is the main plank in the Libertarian platform.
     
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  8. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    There is a reason that many Libertarian oppose the criminalization of drug use but considering that issue as the main plank of Libertarian political thought is about as simplistic of an understanding of Libertarianism as there could possibly be.
     
  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Lighten up, I didn't say it was right but name a Libertarian who doesn't make that case or raise that argument themselves.
     
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  10. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Bob Barr, the last Libertarian Party Candidate for President was a strong supporter of the federal War on Drugs. He now sees the issue of legalization or not as a state issue, not a federal one but he is very much against drug use.

    Getting the feds out of the drug issue is a pretty logical effect of a belief in personal liberty and limited government but I would not call the legalization of drugs the main goal/plank of Libertarianism.
     
  11. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I'm glad that Penn is not a socialist. He certainly is intelligent and articulate. He's also quite talented and I've enjoyed his act for years! Bravo, Penn!
     

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