How Do Republican Working People Rationalize Being in the Republican Party???

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Moen1305, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Back to my question then, I guess. What did I miss?
     
  2. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    What I think is interesting is that everyone believes that they base their political beliefs on facts not political narratives. Yet, so much is written here that is pure political narrative, actual facts are few and far between. In a normal argument, disagreement, or debate, you lay out several facts and then express your opinion backed up or based on the facts you just presented. That is not how it works here because the politics of today are filled with political narratives that pass for facts. Outright lies go unchallenged and facts are open to interpretation when the evidence clearly points in one direction. Most people today are unaware of the difference between facts and political narratives when they hear them.
     
  3. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I get what you say but you also must realize that not everyone has had their views shaped within the last few years or since the advent of all this cable/talk radio commentary. I would agree that many have come into the arena as a result of what they have heard but I know many, many people who have come to their reality all on their own.
     
  4. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    I am not a republican any more, I left that party several years ago.
    I simply look for the best conservative I can find and vote for that person, or vote for the person that best represents my values.
    ex: Gabby Giffords in Tucson, I would have voted for her if I lived in her district, she is a strong " close the border " advocate and a staunch 2nd amendment supporter.

    With repos like McCain, Grahm, Collins and Snowe, Scott Brown, they can go F themselves. A proud independant conservative here.

    I voted against Jan Brewer when she just ran for Gov, I dont like her on taxes and consider a one issue empty suit.
     
  5. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Let's see. Abortion. Of course, I know...I know...that is not a religious issue.

    Taxes are too high...or really...taxes are too high on me and people like me.Those other deadbeats aren't paying enough.

    Yadda. Yadda.
     
  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    You have to realize the abortion advocates have tried for years to make it look like only religious zealots oppose abortion. This shifts the argument to religion and off the real issue of murder of innocent victims. It's the same tactic they employ when they try to call abortion a woman's rights issue.
    And to call tax debates a religious issue is a stretch.
     
  7. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Abortion is certainly a religious issue. Not only a religious issue, of course, but very much a religious issue. Don't believe it...come live in the bible belt.

    And I wasn't relating taxes to religion...I was talking about what else I wrote that would apply around here (physical) and around here (virtual).
     
  8. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I guess that would be classified as a blanket statement, huh?
    I look at it as a simple case of murder but I guess if you extrapolate it out...connect the dots...read between the lines...etc...it would come down to a question of right or wrong therefore appearing to have a base in religion. As I stated earlier, it is the supporters of abortion who have made abortion a religious issue because religion is easier to attack than abortion is to defend.
    I am a strong opponent of infanticide and have participated in many anti-abortion functions- the people I have encountered have run the gamut...to classify them as predominatly "religious" would be inaccurate.
     
  9. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Abortion is certainly a religious issue. Not only a religious issue, of course, but very much a religious issue.
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Seems the marketing efforts of abortion advocates is working!
     
  11. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I think you would only have to go to just about any other modern country and say "abortion is a religious issue" and most people would look at you like you had lost your mind. Abortion is a medical issue that the religious community has tried to make a religious issue. It is first and foremost a medical procedure. If religious people want to label it murder, they do it for their own reasons. If I am an atheist and have no religion, it certainly can't be a religious issue for me.
     
  12. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Any person, religious or otherwise, would say that the taking of the life of a human is homicide. The question is, "when does the joining of sperm and egg become a "life" and when does it become "human"? The definition of biological life is "a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have signaling and self-sustaining processes (biology) from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (death), or else because they lack such functions and are classified as inanimate". The definition of "human" is "of or belonging to the species Homo sapiens".

    I don't purport to judge WHEN the sperm/egg becomes "alive", but there's no argument that it's "human".
     
  13. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    You mean besides modern countries primarily populated my Christians and Muslims? It doesn't take much searching....

    Tens of thousands of protesters, backed by the right-wing opposition and by Spain's Roman Catholic Church

    France24 - Thousands protest abortion liberalisation in Madrid

    British women who want to terminate a pregnancy are being confronted by Christian protesters picketing abortion clinics, in a copy of tactics used by hardcore anti-abortionists in the US.

    US-style anti-abortion Christian protesters target Marie Stopes clinic in Britain | eChurch Christian Blog
     

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