....the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom is: We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at night). I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and winch it back up between group arrivals. Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The spider weighs about 5#.
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: >...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >is: > >We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >night). if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. if it must be automated, youll need a small motor and a clutch and sensors and shit. >I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can >run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want >the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and >wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru >the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times >around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ >this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. > >To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the >spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the >trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the >fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier >to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by >looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating >heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and >let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and >winch it back up between group arrivals. > >Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line >stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I >tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The >spider weighs about 5#. use 30lb test and it should be fine for a night. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj this signature might or might not be for mimus. but it is for hatchetmama and shirley and smee. and LaBlueGirl and Dr. Flonkenstein. farewell for the time being, frankb. may you learn more mysteries on the other side than one can count on this plane.
dave hillstrom wrote: > On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: > >>...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >>is: >>We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >>spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >>in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >>heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >>the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >>night). > > if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. > run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the > thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. Or just use a 'spider pole' - it's the same as a 'fish pole' but it has a spider on the end of the line instead of a fish. > > if it must be automated, youll need a small motor and a clutch and > sensors and shit. > >>I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can >>run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want >>the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and >>wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru >>the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times >>around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ >>this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. >> >>To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the >>spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the >>trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the >>fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier >>to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by >>looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating >>heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and >>let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and >>winch it back up between group arrivals. >> >>Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line >>stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I >>tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The >>spider weighs about 5#. > > use 30lb test and it should be fine for a night. > I'd be tempted to try that spider rig on bluefish or striper. -- nuts
hillstrom, we have a problem dave hillstrom is no match for wavy g: >On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: > >>...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >>is: >> >>We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >>spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >>in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >>heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >>the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >>night). > > >if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. >run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the >thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. > >if it must be automated, youll need a small motor and a clutch and >sensors and shit. > >>I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can >>run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want >>the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and >>wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru >>the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times >>around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ >>this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. >> >>To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the >>spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the >>trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the >>fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier >>to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by >>looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating >>heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and >>let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and >>winch it back up between group arrivals. >> >>Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line >>stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I >>tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The >>spider weighs about 5#. > >use 30lb test and it should be fine for a night. would'nt that be overkill? she just needed five lubs. write back. love wgnwf
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:56:30 -0400, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in <v4vkg31efflcrstfhp9au4ouqth9ssgi58@4ax.com>: >On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: > >>...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >>is: >> >>We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >>spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >>in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >>heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >>the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >>night). > > >if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. >run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the >thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. D'oh. I R Retard. Yes, using my fishing pole is sooo much easier than running the line, fastening it to an easier-to-handle clothesline and cinching it to a post. D'oh. Thank you. [toddles into garage to finish converting my giant cauldron into a giant, lit, fog-chilling cauldron - <http://www.z7q2.com/cauldron/>]
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:24:49 -0400, mixed nuts <melopsiticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in <fee08p$nto$1@aioe.org>: >dave hillstrom wrote: >> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: >> >>>...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >>>is: >>>We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >>>spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >>>in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >>>heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >>>the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >>>night). >> >> if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. >> run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the >> thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. > >Or just use a 'spider pole' - it's the same as a 'fish pole' but it has >a spider on the end of the line instead of a fish. >> >> if it must be automated, youll need a small motor and a clutch and >> sensors and shit. >> >>>I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can >>>run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want >>>the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and >>>wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru >>>the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times >>>around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ >>>this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. >>> >>>To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the >>>spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the >>>trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the >>>fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier >>>to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by >>>looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating >>>heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and >>>let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and >>>winch it back up between group arrivals. >>> >>>Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line >>>stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I >>>tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The >>>spider weighs about 5#. >> >> use 30lb test and it should be fine for a night. >> >I'd be tempted to try that spider rig on bluefish or striper. Well, there /are/ some stocked trout in the on-site lake but: 1. It's been 90+ all week, so I don't think it'll be cool enough to suit them come event night. 2. I don't think they'd bite on a 30# test. 3. I don't have a Trout Stamp. 4. Like American Express, the Game Wardens here are "everywhere you wanna go".
Re: hillstrom, we have a problem On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:42:41 -0400, wavy g's number won fan <numberwonfan@wavyg.net> wrote: >dave hillstrom is no match for wavy g: > >>On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: >> >>>...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >>>is: >>> >>>We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >>>spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >>>in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >>>heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >>>the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >>>night). >> >> >>if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. >>run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the >>thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. >> >>if it must be automated, youll need a small motor and a clutch and >>sensors and shit. >> >>>I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can >>>run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want >>>the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and >>>wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru >>>the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times >>>around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ >>>this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. >>> >>>To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the >>>spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the >>>trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the >>>fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier >>>to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by >>>looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating >>>heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and >>>let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and >>>winch it back up between group arrivals. >>> >>>Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line >>>stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I >>>tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The >>>spider weighs about 5#. >> >>use 30lb test and it should be fine for a night. > >would'nt that be overkill? she just needed five lubs. write back. overkill is rarely bad in engineering and special effects. nyah. anything lighter and you run into line stretching problems, increasing the likelyhood that the damned thing will break in the middle of the event. so there. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj this signature might or might not be for mimus. but it is for hatchetmama and shirley and smee. and LaBlueGirl and Dr. Flonkenstein. farewell for the time being, frankb. may you learn more mysteries on the other side than one can count on this plane.
Re: hillstrom, we have a problem dave hillstrom is no match for wavy g: >On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:42:41 -0400, wavy g's number won fan ><numberwonfan@wavyg.net> wrote: > >>dave hillstrom is no match for wavy g: >> >>>On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: >>> >>>>...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >>>>is: >>>> >>>>We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >>>>spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >>>>in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >>>>heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >>>>the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >>>>night). >>> >>> >>>if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. >>>run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the >>>thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. >>> >>>if it must be automated, youll need a small motor and a clutch and >>>sensors and shit. >>> >>>>I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can >>>>run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want >>>>the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and >>>>wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru >>>>the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times >>>>around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ >>>>this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. >>>> >>>>To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the >>>>spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the >>>>trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the >>>>fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier >>>>to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by >>>>looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating >>>>heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and >>>>let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and >>>>winch it back up between group arrivals. >>>> >>>>Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line >>>>stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I >>>>tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The >>>>spider weighs about 5#. >>> >>>use 30lb test and it should be fine for a night. >> >>would'nt that be overkill? she just needed five lubs. write back. > >overkill is rarely bad in engineering and special effects. nyah. > >anything lighter and you run into line stretching problems, increasing >the likelyhood that the damned thing will break in the middle of the >event. so there. woah, calm down, missy. must be that "time of the monnth."' lol.
Re: hillstrom, we have a problem On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:34:22 -0400, wavy g's number won fan <numberwonfan@wavyg.net> wrote: >dave hillstrom is no match for wavy g: > >>On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:42:41 -0400, wavy g's number won fan >><numberwonfan@wavyg.net> wrote: >> >>>dave hillstrom is no match for wavy g: >>> >>>>On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >>>>>is: >>>>> >>>>>We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >>>>>spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >>>>>in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >>>>>heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >>>>>the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >>>>>night). >>>> >>>> >>>>if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. >>>>run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the >>>>thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. >>>> >>>>if it must be automated, youll need a small motor and a clutch and >>>>sensors and shit. >>>> >>>>>I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can >>>>>run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want >>>>>the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and >>>>>wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru >>>>>the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times >>>>>around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ >>>>>this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. >>>>> >>>>>To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the >>>>>spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the >>>>>trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the >>>>>fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier >>>>>to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by >>>>>looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating >>>>>heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and >>>>>let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and >>>>>winch it back up between group arrivals. >>>>> >>>>>Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line >>>>>stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I >>>>>tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The >>>>>spider weighs about 5#. >>>> >>>>use 30lb test and it should be fine for a night. >>> >>>would'nt that be overkill? she just needed five lubs. write back. >> >>overkill is rarely bad in engineering and special effects. nyah. >> >>anything lighter and you run into line stretching problems, increasing >>the likelyhood that the damned thing will break in the middle of the >>event. so there. > >woah, calm down, missy. must be that "time of the monnth."' lol. no. thats next week. im just an engineer and you arent. <g> -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj this signature might or might not be for mimus. but it is for hatchetmama and shirley and smee. and LaBlueGirl and Dr. Flonkenstein. farewell for the time being, frankb. may you learn more mysteries on the other side than one can count on this plane.
Sharon B wrote: > On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:24:49 -0400, mixed nuts > <melopsiticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in <fee08p$nto$1@aioe.org>: > >>dave hillstrom wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:50:20 -0400, Sharon B <sharon@lart.com> wrote: >>> >>>>...the problem is that I'm not engineeringly reclined, but the symptom >>>>is: >>>>We're doing a Halloween scene and for one part I need a rilly big >>>>spider (about 2' across and squishy in the middle) to drop on command >>>>in a specific location (diner table, next to a plate holding a beating >>>>heart), every 3-5 minutes for about 5 hours.....this is complicated by >>>>the event taking place on a trail out in the middle of the woods (at >>>>night). >>> >>>if its manually controlled, an old spinning reel would work great. >>>run the line (20-30lb test, up over a tree limb, and when you want the >>>thing to fall, open the bail. real it back up when desired. >> >>Or just use a 'spider pole' - it's the same as a 'fish pole' but it has >>a spider on the end of the line instead of a fish. >> >>>if it must be automated, youll need a small motor and a clutch and >>>sensors and shit. >>> >>>>I'm thinking if I use a couple big storage totes as the table, I can >>>>run a wide head screw up under the lid of the top tote where I want >>>>the middle of the spider to land, run a guide wire thru the tote and >>>>wrap in around the screw head....run the other end of the wire thru >>>>the middle of the spider, then loop the end of the wire several times >>>>around a low overhanging branch directly above the "table". I /think/ >>>>this will make it drop exactly where I want it to. >>>> >>>>To make it drop on command, I'm thinking to run some 20# test thru the >>>>spider's back, run that line over the same tree branch then across the >>>>trail to where I'm sitting next to the cauldron - maybe securing the >>>>fishing line to some thicker clothesline next to me as that's easier >>>>to handle, then winching the spider up to the underside of the limb by >>>>looping my end of the rope and holding it -- then, when the beating >>>>heart is plopped on the plate, I just unloop my end of the rope and >>>>let gravity run the spider down the guidewire onto the table....and >>>>winch it back up between group arrivals. >>>> >>>>Will this work, and is there an easier way? Will the fishing line >>>>stand for being see-sawed back and forth over the branch or should I >>>>tie a pulley to the branch and run the fishing line thru it? The >>>>spider weighs about 5#. >>> >>>use 30lb test and it should be fine for a night. >> >>I'd be tempted to try that spider rig on bluefish or striper. > > Well, there /are/ some stocked trout in the on-site lake but: > > 1. It's been 90+ all week, so I don't think it'll be cool enough to > suit them come event night. There was a 50 ft wide squadron of blues patroling the Merrimac river last night. 'Bout all you need is something that plops into the water and keeps moving to get their attention. > > 2. I don't think they'd bite on a 30# test. That's about right for big blues and average stripers. > > 3. I don't have a Trout Stamp. Don't need no trout stamp. Just a fish pole and aome salty water. > > 4. Like American Express, the Game Wardens here are "everywhere you > wanna go". As long as you have less than 10 blues of any size and 2 stripers over 24 inches they're cool with it. -- nuts
