Hey, why don't we "LIBERATE" Burma?

Your "Pinky" comment doesn't even apply. I am all for speaking what you believe, but if you want to be considered brave, act on those beliefs. Otherwise you are a coward hiding behind a keyboard on a fledgling forum site.

 

What do you suggest? Violence is out of the question...

 

I didn't say to shut up. I said to prove what you are doing to act on your beliefs. You put TS's family down for going to war to support their beliefs. I feel they have just as much of a right to support their beliefs as you do, the difference is they are doing something about it. You on the other hand are doing nothing. Write or call your Senator or Congressman, or even the White House. Get actively, involved with an organization that supports your view, do something. Typing on this forum is nothing. Until you actively do something, I don't think you can criticize anyone.

It seems to fit. Check this out...

Sounds like you, "France".

 

I don't have to prove dick to anyone, especially you, Pinky, and because my beliefs don't match TJ's, it's not critisizing.. exchange of ideas.. and I don't like organizations.. I believe people hide behind them so they don't have to stand up and speak for themselves, or be held accountable for their actions.. I speak for me, no one else, and no one speaks for me. I'm an individual and don't need one other person on this Earth to validate my beliefs for me.. if you didn't notice, the critisizing came from you and TJ.. I got no problem with TJ, his beliefs, his family, or his right to speak his mind...

I don't mind, trust me, I know every shut up trick in the book..critisizing, anger, death threats, attempts at humiliation, guilt trips... hahahahaha.. Don't like it? Move to China, Pinky... I think TJ's capable of speaking for himself..

Although, I am a tremendous smartass so if you think I'll get self concious at insults and worry about what other people think, think again.. I can play the "I'll make you look like an idiot" game too, may the best man win.. and afterwards, I'll have no hard feelings..

By the way, You don't even qualify as typing your beliefs on a fledgling website let alone doing Jack Black/actions before you critisize, so you must be less than nothing.. How does that work? Please explain....Smells like hypocrisy, Pinky

 

What are you? What do you believe? I won't tell you, like you told me.. speak it.

And I'm sure since you've earned the right to critisize me, you must have a long list of brave actions based on your beliefs to share... I'm giddy with excitment.. I may even follow your example..

 

FYI
Your this >-< close to making a correct qoute . Make sure the [ is in front of the end qoute code.
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The paste function is a pain in the ass to get just the codes or all of the codes so you have to clean it up yourself.


Sorry for the interruption.
Please continue.

 

You know, France does seem to fit well, funny stuff.

France is the only Country to be conquered more than Britney Spears.

Look France, I don't have a problem with you voicing your opinions, they are just raw without the tempering factor that age and wisdom brings.

There is an old saying:

"If your not Liberal by the time your 25, you don't have a heart"
"If your not a Conservative by the time your 35, you don't have a brain"

With youth, there is ideas without substance. There is ideas without reality. There is ideas without a way to pay for them.


With age there is reason. With age there is wisdom. With age there is common sense.


You complain that the government should not work to keep oil supply comming to America and yet you are helping to increase America's dependance on oil. That is a great idea, but you don't have your good idea tempered with comon sense.

If you want someone like me to take you seriously, you need to walk the walk when you talk the talk.

 

How many times do I have to say it.. I didn't say that, and quit claiming I did. Are you saying war is the only way to keep the oil coming?

And do you see me turning tail and running from anyone? BTW, where's pinky? I'm waiting for his autobiography.. Musta turned tail and ran back to Mother China.. hahahahaha

Conquer me with logic, not your words in my mouth please... I'm a patient man.

 

Classifieds:

One Fabric De Arms 1944 7.92mm rifle with bayonet
It is in great condition. It?s only been dropped once.

 

Hahahahaha... I'll take a pair of tennis shoes instead.

 

Where is the war you keep talking about that is about securing that oil?

I see you double talking, you did attack the notion of the government working hard to keep the oil supply comming but you are so far talking like you are unwilling to make any sacrifice to back up what you say others should do.

Maybe you need to be more clear about what you are "trying" to say because so far you are saying one thing but doing another.

 

No where.. we don't fight wars for oil. Let's drop the oil issue and discuss the war of Freedom instead... I don't have a problem with oil, period. I was mistaken, the convo should now shift to wars for freedom.. you've convinced me. Sorry...

Are you saying the war is about oil? Please define "government working hard to secure oil." I see you double talking.. War is not about oil vs. Government working hard to secure oil. Your words.. please compare and contrast them for me..

And what do you think I'm saying others should do? Quote it for me please, I forget...

Perhaps you shouldn't tell me what I'm saying, and what do you think I'm doing that is in contradiction to what I'm saying?

 

Burma... Burma...Burma. Burma sure sucks.

What where we talking about again?

 

You know The UN is working on Burma. We can?t do anything until diplomacy has run its course. **** Burma! What about Darfur?

 

Snafu is right, let's get away from the oil and Iraq discussion.


America does work very hard to help with gettign freedom for many Countries, we have supplied most of the troops and aid money/food for the UN actions every year. While it sounds nice to free everyone, even America has limits as to how much it can do at one time and we need somone else to help a little.

I consider myself to be a pretty good reader, piss poor speller due to using word with a spell checker for too long, but still a good reader.

Obviously there was something in your comments to give me the impression you were against the government working hard to keep oil comming, maybe you can be a little more clear of what you are trying to say, all we have to go on is words being as I cannot hear your voice to get how you say the words or see your body for posture cues.

 

Lets get away from the oil part.. not the war in Iraq, as that is what this post is about.. Wars of liberation..

However, I would like you to tell me how our government is working hard to secure oil. What exactly do they do to accomplish that?

 

There were about 40 unenforced UN resolutions with Iraq and real evidence showing concern for American interests to include support for certain terrorists (not the groups but a couple specific people). When acting on issues like this, the decision is complex and involves many thousands of advisors.

We cannot be everywhere at the same time and must act on a priority basis. Everyone dying and offering freedom to the opressed is importent, but we do have limits.

That would take a college level course to teach you the hundreds of ways if you have no clue now, sorry but I don't have that kind of time.

 

Well lets see. We have troops on the platforms out on the coast. We are trying to shore up our harbors. With our Patriot act we are gathering intelligence against attacks on our pipelines (daily). Trust me, they got their eye on the oil supplies.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15903


The Air National Guard has small special planes that run on regular gas (incase they have to land at a gas station) monitoring the entire Alaska Pipeline non-stop.

Also

http://stevens.senate.gov/public/in...21-0e36-ba84-e88fe6e5146c&Region_id=&Issue_id

 

Who made us and the UN God? And freedom at the end of a barrel of a gun, is not freedom. It's the opposite.

No prob, I'll let you not so gracefully turn tail and run out of the corner your words were painting you into without shooting you in the back or asking you why our government must secure and keep the supply coming of any product in an open, free market.

Looks like France is the last man standing...