Here's what happens when leftists don't get their way....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

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  2. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    All leftists. Every last one of them. Uh-huh. Oy.

    Your OP has some points to make, but about two seperate individuals... not all leftists. Focus on those two individuals, what they said, why they said it... it'll help your case.
     
  3. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    These people seem to think the current system is not working and that Congress is too deadlocked and Parisian and not getting anything done because of fear of not getting re-elected. "You want people who don’t worry about the next election.” Indeed.

    So maybe instead of calling off the elections in 2012, we should do something that could actually be done constitutionally and would not cause a revolution. Congress could immediately propose an amendment to the constitution for congressional term limits similar to the Presidency. Maybe 4 terms for the House and 2 for the Senate. No grandfather clause. It passes the states, problem solved.

    What better way to get "people who don’t worry about the next election" than to take the possibility of the next election (or, at the every least, the next election after that) completely out of the equation in a completely constitutional way?

    Somehow I don't think this will be proposed by these types of individuals. ;)
     
  4. IQless1
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    I doubt it too lol

    That's leads me to highlight one of the biggest reasons for all the head-butting in Congress: They make the rules that govern themselves...

    :( ...I wish I could do that, make laws and rules that govern myself... but without all the head-butting.
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    What's the alternative?
     
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  6. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    To Congress governing itself? I can think of a couple of ways. Maybe have the people (citizens of America) vote to accept or reject rules Congress operates under. Maybe involve the Judicial branch in the process. The point is that Congress has corrupted itself and that, in order to remove that corruption and lessen the possibility of future corruption, the rules they operate under must be approved by someone besides themselves.
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    ...but is limiting democracy & cancelling elections the way to do it? That seems to be the only solution offered by the left.
     
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  8. IQless1
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    Your accusations are not completely true though. They are an extreme exaggeration, so much so that they border on being a lie.
     
  9. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Is your argument to leave it alone entirely or are you going to suggest an alternative?
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Which accusations are you referring to?
     
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  11. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    You really just have to look at your comments that came before my comment to find that answer, but ok, I'll repeat them for you:

    You said all leftists are "limiting democracy & cancelling elections..." and "That seems to be the only solution offered by the left."

    I'm saying that while a lefty might occasionally say something like that (as do some righties on occasion), most believe it's crazy-talk. Like I said originally though: you may or may not have some points to make against the two people in your original post, but when you include "all lefties" it becomes an exaggeration and a lie. Focus on the actual persons quoted and try not to apply what they said to an entire group. It simply isn't true.

    Did that clarify it for you?
     
  12. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    The left comes across as smug self-rightous boars. Just watch CNBC if one needs more imagery. But that is the least of their negatives. They seem to like to kill people when in power. Kill them by the millions.
     
  13. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Yet, some on the right have openly stated that they are fine with just letting people die, rather than provide funds for programs that would help them survive. It wasn't that long ago that the Republican party declared that Democrats wanted old people to die (which the Dems obviously challenged), yet the truth is that there is a vocal element in the Republican party that actually does not care if those old people do die...

    ...so if the left comes across as smug and self-rightous., fine... the right comes across as uncaring and selfish.
     
  14. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Name 1...just 1.
     
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  15. rlm's cents
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    :oops:But mediamatter said so?!?!:confused:
     
  16. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    OK :eek:

     
  17. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Leave it to David to ask for proof though... despite the abundance of it. The blind are easily led.
     
  18. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Since when is Mr. Paul a member of the Tea Party? Let alone, I never heard him say they (or he is) "are fine with just letting people die".
     
  19. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Blinders do that.
     
  20. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    So, from that, you took it that Paul wants people to die? That is supposed to be the proof I asked iq-less to provide? If you had taken the time to listen to what you posted, Paul was asked point-blank if he thought the guy should be left to die. His answer? "NO". Doesn't really support the argument you are trying to make, does it?
     
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