Heavy battletanks for Ukraine

Discussion in 'World Events' started by John Kamps, Jan 12, 2023.

  1. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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  3. John Kamps
    Busy

    John Kamps Well-Known Member

    Was it not Putin who commited mass war crimes in Georgia? Annexed Crimea in 2014? Fermented rebellions in Donbas? Shot down that airliner in 2014? Supports a tyrant in Belarus? Murders his political opponents in Russia/ aboard? Took away freedom of press/ freedom of expression in the Russian Federation? Invaded Ukraine in Feb. 24th/ 2022? Commited thousands of War Crimes since that invasion? The guy (Putin) had his only real job as a KGB agent/ a sinister organization/ enforcers for the USSR/ before they were the "Soviet Murder Inc." responsible for most of the 54 M people murdered/ starved to death under Stalin.
    This is a fight between good (Ukraine) vs evil (Russia)
     
  4. Andy

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    Eastern Ukraine voted to leave Ukraine in 2014 after the elected President was removed from office by gun. Guy had to run for his life and western Ukraine responded by sending in military that raped, murdered people in Eastern Ukraine. I try this being reprinted 2014 but most of that reporting has been washed from online and new story is that Ukraine was a nation invaded rather than a nation at civil war or worse. 7B0CC067-4798-49A0-9CE2-04C152200A75.jpeg
     
  5. Andy

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    Think it ended up million and a half fled to Russia to not be raped or murdered. After all it would have been easier to flee into Ukraine if you felt that was where you belonged
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  6. Andy

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  7. Andy

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    The article calls them proRussia which they were but they voted at that time to be their own nation. They
     
  8. Andy

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    2014 Crimea voted to leave Ukraine and be part of new nation. A proRussian person would say that Putin went in to save them. A pragmatic person would say Putin saw an excuse for a land grab of a strategic location.
     
  9. Andy

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    Don’t know what happened in Georgia. Hate to say but it was never in my radar but I’m sure it was all bad. Think that might have been where two areas in Georgia wanted a richer life and voted to leave Georgia and join Russia. But most of story was off my radar
     
  10. Andy

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    Yes.someone in the Donbas military in Eastern Ukraine , they still considered themselves their own nation then, shot down a commercial flight that was actually prohibited to fly over that area. Who’s to say if stupid mistake or what but everyone knew no commercial flights were supposed to be in that area.
    We shot an Iranian commercial flight as well that I believe was in an area that was a no zone for it.
     
  11. Andy

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    There is no freedom of press in Ukraine. Every outlet is controlled by state officials. People have been shot for reporting causalitys on the Ukraine side and one member of the Ukraine peace negotiations team was shot for saying a peace solution could be found at the start of the escalating conflict
     
  12. Andy

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  14. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Putin may be evil in many ways but most of his actions are for the good of his nation. The Democrats and their leadership seems to do evil things like starting this war, Breaking Minsk Treaty as one of many examples, and it all seems to hurt our nation and benefits China
     
  15. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    As I stated before, poor Ukraine’s and poor Russians are dying for nothing. Ukraine was making Billions off of being a pipeline harbor for Russian natural gas. Zelensky’s old puppet masters did not want this war and they were removed. Most of the Nazi Ukraine army was set up to be destroyed, their usefulness was over.. Military industries are increasing their wealth. While NATO is trying to create a reason for it to still exist and the European Union is looking to take over Ukraine and fill it with North Africans to further weaken it, while taking out its religion and owning its resources.
     
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  16. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    It was hard to provide articles showing what I’m writing since so many have been removed by the NewYork Times etc. back in 2014. I tried to go back before Biden was elected to find any but I did from many different sources. Take the time to read them. This was a manufactured war and the United States is losing bad on many levels because of it with China winning our influence in Africa, Latin America and Middle East.
     
  17. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Never mind Putin’s Russia in between Obama and Biden have been trying to form a wall against China with the US and now Biden’s policies forced them towards China.
     
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  18. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Most likely funded by same people.
     

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