Government sues to allow drunk drivers on the road!????

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rlm's cents, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    You asked for examples of government interference, try this one. Granted, some of the details are missing from this story, but maybe this line sums it up;
    Does that really say you cannot prevent a drunk driver from driving?
     
  2. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Sounds like a case the ACLU will be all over.
     
  3. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

  4. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I thought the idea of education was to open the mind. Apparently your degree did not involve much education.
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Fox is not exactly "education" now is it? Misinformation, lies, half-truths, innuendo, spin, and your personal favorite, Breitbart film editing, but education, not so much. Apparently your lack of any kind of degree leads you to believe that a cable show IS education. Not even close bunky!
     
  6. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    mediamatters is not exactly "education" now is it? Misinformation, lies, half-truths, innuendo, spin, and your personal favorite, NBC film editing, but education, not so much. Apparently your lack of any kind of degree leads you to believe that a Soros IS education. Not even close bunky!

    BTW, I read both sides. You "don't listen to anyone on the Right because they have proven they only elect idiots". I wonder just who has the better education. You said you are the "highest education person", you did not say you were the best educated.
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

  8. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    According to your source, this is the real issue. Not the false issue Faux News was spinning it as....

    According to the EEOC's suit, the driver at ODFL's Fort Smith, Ark. location had worked for the company for five years without incident. In late June 2009, the employee reported to the company that he believed he had an alcohol problem. Under U.S. Department of Transportation regulations, the employer suspended the employee from his driving position and referred him for substance abuse counseling. However, the employer also informed the driver that the employer would never return him to a driving position, says the EEOC suit, even upon the successful completion of a counseling program. The EEOC discovered drivers at other service centers whom the employer had allegedly subjected to similar treatment.

    So even after he successfully gets treated for his problem, they refuse to allow him to return to work. That is illegal. Not quite how Faux News spun it was it now? And this isn't the first time they've done this.
     
  9. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I like the way Faux News just leaves out certain inconvenient details when they spin a story. It really works on stupid people which is why you two latched onto it.
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Dunno, but it sounds kinda dangerous to knowingly put an alcoholic behind the wheel of a semi. Perhaps you know the answer to this, is a trip to rehab guaranteed to cure alcoholism for a lifetime?
     
  11. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    You did not read it but you know what it says. Got ESP, huh? Only problem is that you are wrong as usual. BTW, if they put this guy back on the road and he has an accident, can you imagine what government (and the accident victims) would do to this company?
     
  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Is Jesus really advocating the return of this alcoholic to driving a semi? It sure sounds that way to me. Wonder if his wife & kids are on the roads much?
     
  13. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The issue is that even if this guy goes through treatment and cleans himself up, he is still fired. That is the illegal part. Nobody, including the EEOC is advocating putting this guy behind the wheel if he is still an alcoholic. However, after he does get treatment he should be able to get his job back. Why is this so wrong?
     
  14. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    So, I'll ask you again....is a trip to rehab guaranteed to cure alcoholism permanently?
     
  15. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Oh I see where you're going with this. He has/had a drinking problem and he will never recover even though 10's of thousands of people recover from alcoholism every year. He can't possibly be trusted again right? Sorry, I just can't buy that as a rationalization for firing this guy especially after there were no incidents prior to him voluntarily divulging his condition to the company. That seems like pretty responsible behavior.

    Why don't you two just stop buying into the Faux News spin that the government is trying to put alcoholics back on the road? It simply carries no weight.
     
  16. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    So, I take it the answer to the question is one you would rather not answe aloud?
     
  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Oh I see where you're going with this. He has/had a drinking problem and he will never recover even though 10's of thousands of people recover from alcoholism every year. He can't possibly be trusted again right? Sorry, I just can't buy that as a rationalization for firing this guy especially after there were no incidents prior to him voluntarily divulging his condition to the company. That seems like pretty responsible behavior.

    Why don't you two just stop buying into the Faux News spin that the government is trying to put alcoholics back on the road? It simply carries no weight.
     
  18. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Now it is obvious that you did not read anything, because he did not go through treatment. However, even if he did, you would be the first in line to sue the company if this alcoholic had an accident.
     
  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Oh I see where you're going with this. He has/had a drinking problem and he will never recover even though 10's of thousands of people recover from alcoholism every year. He can't possibly be trusted again right? Sorry, I just can't buy that as a rationalization for firing this guy especially after there were no incidents prior to him voluntarily divulging his condition to the company. That seems like pretty responsible behavior.

    Why don't you two just stop buying into the Faux News spin that the government is trying to put alcoholics back on the road? It simply carries no weight.
     
  20. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    When I was a Teamster union steward I spent most of my time dealing with idiot employees who had done something stupid and most involved alcohol. I can tell you from experience that the only thing the union cared about was getting them back to work & paying dues. According to the union, allowing management to take a guy off the job was the same as admitting guilt & that would decrease the union's case if it were contested. And we used a lot of machinery, both stationary & 4 wheeled, where I worked.
     

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