The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for Congress. If not voters. And prospective parents. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 You want a job and a lizard to ride? < _The Einstein Intersection_
"mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JdadnbCm9udUw5DanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com... > The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that those > so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh treatment on > "troubled teens", abuse teens. > > You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for Congress. > > If not voters. > > And prospective parents. > They (the people that were to protect my grandson) wanted to send him to bootcamp. I said NO and that was that. As bad as he is sometimes I knew that sending him there would only increase his anger.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:21:03 -0400, Shirley wrote: > "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:JdadnbCm9udUw5DanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com... > >> The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that >> those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh >> treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. >> >> You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for >> Congress. >> >> If not voters. >> >> And prospective parents. > > They (the people that were to protect my grandson) wanted to send him to > bootcamp. I said NO and that was that. As bad as he is sometimes I knew > that sending him there would only increase his anger. It's "hydrotherapy" and "electrotherapy" and "shock" and "aversion" "therapy" and "psychosurgery" and not abuse or torture; it's "pain compliance technique" in arrest and not abuse or torture; it's "teen boot camp" and not abuse or torture; it's "enhanced interrogation" and not abuse or torture . . . . "Rectification of names" indeed. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 Nothing so illuminates the end as the means. And the means is frequently the real end.
"mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MKednVSmp5Lu7pDanZ2dnUVZ_o-mnZ2d@giganews.com... > On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:21:03 -0400, Shirley wrote: > >> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:JdadnbCm9udUw5DanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >>> The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that >>> those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh >>> treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. >>> >>> You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for >>> Congress. >>> >>> If not voters. >>> >>> And prospective parents. >> >> They (the people that were to protect my grandson) wanted to send him to >> bootcamp. I said NO and that was that. As bad as he is sometimes I knew >> that sending him there would only increase his anger. > > It's "hydrotherapy" and "electrotherapy" and "shock" and "aversion" > "therapy" and "psychosurgery" and not abuse or torture; it's "pain > compliance technique" in arrest and not abuse or torture; it's "teen boot > camp" and not abuse or torture; it's "enhanced interrogation" and not > abuse or torture . . . . > > "Rectification of names" indeed. > All my Dad needed for therapy treatment was his voice and the branch from the forsythia.
mimus wrote: > The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that those > so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh treatment on > "troubled teens", abuse teens. > > You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for Congress. > > If not voters. > > And prospective parents. > These camps have received glowing reviews and have wide political support. They're a real moneymaker for the operators. Many are closely connected to religious organizations, if not run by them. A little investigating leads to a sick feeling in one's stomach - these bastards are protected. Generating a population of the abused and frightened has a purpose in the grand sceme. -- nuts
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:40:23 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: > mimus wrote: > >> The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that >> those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh >> treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. >> >> You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for >> Congress. >> >> If not voters. >> >> And prospective parents. >> > These camps have received glowing reviews and have wide political > support. They're a real moneymaker for the operators. Many are closely > connected to religious organizations, if not run by them. > > A little investigating leads to a sick feeling in one's stomach - these > bastards are protected. > > Generating a population of the abused and frightened has a purpose in > the grand sceme. On the plus side, we should get a nice crop of nicely radicalized surviving kids out of it under no illusions about the morals of those involved. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 Ofitseroi vse do odnogo merzavtsoi. < _Odin Den' Ivana Denisovicha_
On Oct 10, 5:51 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:21:03 -0400, Shirley wrote: > > "mimus" <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >news:JdadnbCm9udUw5DanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > >> The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that > >> those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh > >> treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. > > >> You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for > >> Congress. > > >> If not voters. > > >> And prospective parents. > > > They (the people that were to protect my grandson) wanted to send him to > > bootcamp. I said NO and that was that. As bad as he is sometimes I knew > > that sending him there would only increase his anger. > > It's "hydrotherapy" and "electrotherapy" and "shock" and "aversion" > "therapy" and "psychosurgery" and not abuse or torture; it's "pain > compliance technique" in arrest and not abuse or torture; it's "teen boot > camp" and not abuse or torture; it's "enhanced interrogation" and not > abuse or torture . . . . > > "Rectification of names" indeed. > The basic idea behind Newspeak was to remove all shades of meaning from language, leaving simple dichotomies (pleasure and pain, happiness and sadness, good thoughts and thoughtcrimes) which reinforce the total dominance of the State. Similarly, Newspeak root words served as both nouns and verbs, which allowed further reduction in the total number of words; for example, "think" served as both noun and verb, so the word "thought" was unneeded and could be abolished. A staccato rhythm of short syllables was also a goal, further reducing the need for deep thinking about language. (See duckspeak.) Successful Newspeak meant that there would be fewer and fewer words -- dictionaries would get thinner and thinner. In addition, words with opposite meanings were removed as redundant, so "bad" became "ungood." Words with comparative and superlative meanings were also simplified, so "better" became "gooder", and "best" likewise became "goodest". Intensifiers could be added, so "great" became "plusgood", and "excellent" or "splendid" likewise became "doubleplusgood." Adjectives were formed by adding the suffix "-ful" to a root word (e.g. "goodthinkful", orthodox in thought), and adverbs by adding "-wise" ("goodthinkwise", in an orthodox manner). In this manner, as many words as possible were removed from the language. The ultimate aim of Newspeak was to reduce even the dichotomies to a single word that was a "yes" of some sort: an obedient word with which everyone answered affirmatively to what was asked of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak Politics and the English Language -george Orwell 1945 http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/index.cgi/work/essays/language.html > -- > tinmimu...@hotmail.com > > smeeter 11 or maybe 12 > > mp 10 > > mhm 29x13 > > Nothing so illuminates the end as the means. > > And the means is frequently the real end.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:02:44 -0700, Immortalist wrote: > On Oct 10, 5:51 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:21:03 -0400, Shirley wrote: >> >> > "mimus" <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >news:JdadnbCm9udUw5DanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> > >> >> The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that >> >> those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh >> >> treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. >> >> >> >> You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for >> >> Congress. >> >> >> >> If not voters. >> >> >> >> And prospective parents. >> > >> > They (the people that were to protect my grandson) wanted to send him to >> > bootcamp. I said NO and that was that. As bad as he is sometimes I knew >> > that sending him there would only increase his anger. >> >> It's "hydrotherapy" and "electrotherapy" and "shock" and "aversion" >> "therapy" and "psychosurgery" and not abuse or torture; it's "pain >> compliance technique" in arrest and not abuse or torture; it's "teen boot >> camp" and not abuse or torture; it's "enhanced interrogation" and not >> abuse or torture . . . . >> >> "Rectification of names" indeed. > > The basic idea behind Newspeak was to remove all shades of meaning > from language, leaving simple dichotomies (pleasure and pain, > happiness and sadness, good thoughts and thoughtcrimes) which > reinforce the total dominance of the State. Similarly, Newspeak root > words served as both nouns and verbs, which allowed further reduction > in the total number of words; for example, "think" served as both noun > and verb, so the word "thought" was unneeded and could be abolished. A > staccato rhythm of short syllables was also a goal, further reducing > the need for deep thinking about language. (See duckspeak.) Successful > Newspeak meant that there would be fewer and fewer words -- > dictionaries would get thinner and thinner. > > In addition, words with opposite meanings were removed as redundant, > so "bad" became "ungood." Words with comparative and superlative > meanings were also simplified, so "better" became "gooder", and "best" > likewise became "goodest". Intensifiers could be added, so "great" > became "plusgood", and "excellent" or "splendid" likewise became > "doubleplusgood." Adjectives were formed by adding the suffix "-ful" > to a root word (e.g. "goodthinkful", orthodox in thought), and adverbs > by adding "-wise" ("goodthinkwise", in an orthodox manner). In this > manner, as many words as possible were removed from the language. The > ultimate aim of Newspeak was to reduce even the dichotomies to a > single word that was a "yes" of some sort: an obedient word with which > everyone answered affirmatively to what was asked of them. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak > > Politics and the English Language -george Orwell 1945 > http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/index.cgi/work/essays/language.html They also sought to drop unapproved words completely from the language, so there wouldn't even be the words to express forbidden thoughts . . . . Perpetually rewriting the classics in it as it was perpetually devolved was a perpetual challenge. Newspeak was inspired at least in part by the simplified form of English (for use in ESL) called "Basic English" (a little over eight hundred words, IIRC). Signed, Old _1984_ Fan -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 It's a plot it's a plot it's _Pavlovian conditioning!_ < _Gravity's Rainbow_
mimus wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:40:23 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: > >>mimus wrote: >> >>>The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that >>>those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh >>>treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. >>> >>>You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for >>>Congress. >>> >>>If not voters. >>> >>>And prospective parents. >> >>These camps have received glowing reviews and have wide political >>support. They're a real moneymaker for the operators. Many are closely >>connected to religious organizations, if not run by them. >> >>A little investigating leads to a sick feeling in one's stomach - these >>bastards are protected. >> >>Generating a population of the abused and frightened has a purpose in >>the grand sceme. > > On the plus side, we should get a nice crop of nicely radicalized > surviving kids out of it under no illusions about the morals of those > involved. > Doesn't likely lead to appropriate and well-crafted responses, however - more like bite or be bitten. http://www.naomiklein.org/main -- nuts
mimus wrote: > The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that those > so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh treatment on > "troubled teens", abuse teens. > > You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for Congress. > > If not voters. > > And prospective parents. > And the court system: Guards and nurse aquitted. -- nuts
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:00:08 -0400, mixed nuts wrote: > mimus wrote: > >> The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that >> those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh >> treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. >> >> You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for >> Congress. >> >> If not voters. >> >> And prospective parents. > > And the court system: Guards and nurse aquitted. Well, the evidence presented didn't allow a criminal conviction, apparently (dueling pathologists). There'll be a civil case, with a more relaxed standard of evidence, a la "OJ I-B", if in fact the insurance company for the "boot camp" doesn't settle out of court, which seems likely. And the "boot camp" in question has long been shut down, which itself should have a salutary "chilling" effect on the others still operating. (Also, jurors count as "voters", really.) As noted above, though, I have a problem with the concept that if the boy hadn't died then the treatment being dealt out there to "troubled teens" would be OK otherwise . . . . -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 You want a job and a lizard to ride? < _The Einstein Intersection_
In article <x%dPi.2285$k9.736@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, bigd1999 @bellsoutj.net says... > > "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:JdadnbCm9udUw5DanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that those > > so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh treatment on > > "troubled teens", abuse teens. > > > > You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for Congress. > > > > If not voters. > > > > And prospective parents. > > > > They (the people that were to protect my grandson) wanted to send him to > bootcamp. I said NO and that was that. As bad as he is sometimes I knew that > sending him there would only increase his anger. > I don't believe in this "break people down to build them up" thing they're doing. IMO, some can't be built up again after they've been broken down, so it's a dangerous thing to do. -- . \ /| | , , __ __. _ .- , . / | ___ | / |' `. .' \ \,' | ` /__| ___\ |-< | | | | /\ | | @@ e\ / / \_ / | `._.' / \ `---|. @@@ { / \___/ @@.-<.-----__/ / / ) )--./-/' knoxy `.\) ( mhm34x10 .>) \ smeeter #6 / \ #6 on mimus wanted poster list / | Best Newbie in alt.flame 2005 J | Snarky's Gutter Chix0rz #13 __`-._____/_\ ___________________________________________________ ` made by VK knoxy@post.com
"knoxy" <knoxy@post.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2182a48e28f7517a98974a@nntp.motzarella.org... > In article <x%dPi.2285$k9.736@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, bigd1999 > @bellsoutj.net says... >> >> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:JdadnbCm9udUw5DanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> > The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that >> > those >> > so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh treatment >> > on >> > "troubled teens", abuse teens. >> > >> > You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for >> > Congress. >> > >> > If not voters. >> > >> > And prospective parents. >> > >> >> They (the people that were to protect my grandson) wanted to send him to >> bootcamp. I said NO and that was that. As bad as he is sometimes I knew >> that >> sending him there would only increase his anger. >> > I don't believe in this "break people down to build them up" thing > they're doing. IMO, some can't be built up again after they've been > broken down, so it's a dangerous thing to do. I had heard so many horror stories about boot camp and group homes that I just could not send him there. I read that when adopting a child try to get one that is under 5 years of age because whatever damage was done had a better chance of being undone before that age. In actuallity that is what we did, we *adopted* our grandchildren. It has been a long road, but come this June (graduation) both grandkids are making plans to move on so our job will be over. > > -- > > > . \ > /| | , , __ __. _ .- , . > / | ___ | / |' `. .' \ \,' | ` > /__| ___\ |-< | | | | /\ | | > @@ e\ / / \_ / | `._.' / \ `---|. > @@@ { / \___/ > @@.-<.-----__/ > / / ) )--./-/' knoxy > `.\) ( mhm34x10 > .>) \ smeeter #6 > / \ #6 on mimus wanted poster list > / | Best Newbie in alt.flame 2005 > J | Snarky's Gutter Chix0rz #13 > __`-._____/_\ ___________________________________________________ > ` made by VK knoxy@post.com
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:25:42 +0100, knoxy wrote: > In article <x%dPi.2285$k9.736@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, bigd1999 > @bellsoutj.net says... > >> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:JdadnbCm9udUw5DanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >> > The US Congress is getting all upset over the amazing discovery that >> > those so-called "boot camps", set up to deliberately inflict harsh >> > treatment on "troubled teens", abuse teens. >> > >> > You really have to wonder if there shouldn't be an IQ test for >> > Congress. >> > >> > If not voters. >> > >> > And prospective parents. >> >> They (the people that were to protect my grandson) wanted to send him >> to bootcamp. I said NO and that was that. As bad as he is sometimes I >> knew that sending him there would only increase his anger. > > I don't believe in this "break people down to build them up" thing > they're doing. IMO, some can't be built up again after they've been > broken down, so it's a dangerous thing to do. Notice these pretended "techniques" flourish best where the "subject population" has no say in the matter, schools, mental hospitals, jails and prisons, the military . . . . -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 You want a job and a lizard to ride? < _The Einstein Intersection_
