Feds are finally on to the zombie makers

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by Daedalus, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Daedalus

    Daedalus Guest

  2. Daedalus

    Daedalus Guest

  3. Sycho

    Sycho Guest

    Here ye! Here ye! Today Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> stormed in
    alt.hackers.malicious on Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:27 -0500 and shouted
    for all to hear..

    >On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >>In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    >>
    >>> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html

    >>
    >>its the night of the living fed

    >
    >Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    >
    >Jade


    Sounds more like a new George A. Romero's "Night of the Living Fed".
    --
    Bad command or filename. Go stand in the corner.
     
  4. ???hw??f

    ???hw??f Guest

    On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:56:01 GMT
    whodunit@hellifniknow.com (Sycho) wasted precious bandwith with:

    > Here ye! Here ye! Today Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> stormed in
    > alt.hackers.malicious on Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:27 -0500 and
    > shouted for all to hear..
    >
    > >On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > >greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >>In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    > >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    > >>
    > >>its the night of the living fed

    > >
    > >Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    > >
    > >Jade

    >
    > Sounds more like a new George A. Romero's "Night of the Living
    > Fed".



    The interveiw on teevee was quite telling. The fbi dude failed to
    mention that most botnets are unsecure winboxen.

    --
    www.badvista.org
     
  5. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:29:34 -0800, hwf wrote:

    > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:56:01 GMT
    > whodunit@hellifniknow.com (Sycho) wasted precious bandwith with:
    >
    >> Here ye! Here ye! Today Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> stormed in
    >> alt.hackers.malicious on Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:27 -0500 and
    >> shouted for all to hear..
    >>
    >> >On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >> >greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    >> >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    >> >>
    >> >>its the night of the living fed
    >> >
    >> >Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero

    >>
    >> Sounds more like a new George A. Romero's "Night of the Living
    >> Fed".

    >
    > The interveiw on teevee was quite telling. The fbi dude failed to
    > mention that most botnets are unsecure winboxen.


    Unsecure _users_ (although I admit MackerelSoft has an unpleasant history
    of distributing, er, willy-nilly file-sharing systems-- ironic, when you
    think about their present obsession with DRM, isn't it?) . . . .

    That recently-uncovered CAPTCHA (I think I got it right) "human
    engineering" bypass really kind of said it all.

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    When a system is set up to accomplish some goal, a
    new entity has come into being--the system itself.
    No matter what the "goal" of the system, it
    immediately begins to exhibit system behavior; that
    is, to act according to the general laws that govern
    the operation of all systems. Now the system itself
    has to be dealt with.

    < _Systemantics_
     
  6. In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:

    > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    > >In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    > > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > >
    > >> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html

    > >
    > >its the night of the living fed

    >
    > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero


    if we held billy gates criminally liable as a co-conspirator
    that might motivate them to clean up their act

    arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
    from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
    sacramento - political pigsty of the western world
    or a babys arm holding an apple
     
  7. > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:56:01 GMT
    > > whodunit@hellifniknow.com (Sycho) wasted precious bandwith with:
    > >
    > >> Here ye! Here ye! Today Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> stormed in
    > >> alt.hackers.malicious on Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:27 -0500 and
    > >> shouted for all to hear..
    > >>
    > >> >On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > >> >greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >>In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    > >> >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >>> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    > >> >>
    > >> >>its the night of the living fed
    > >> >
    > >> >Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    > >>
    > >> Sounds more like a new George A. Romero's "Night of the Living
    > >> Fed".

    > >
    > > The interveiw on teevee was quite telling. The fbi dude failed to
    > > mention that most botnets are unsecure winboxen.

    >
    > Unsecure _users_ (although I admit MackerelSoft has an unpleasant history
    > of distributing, er, willy-nilly file-sharing systems-- ironic, when you
    > think about their present obsession with DRM, isn't it?) . . . .


    when you consider their drm isnt about securing the machine for the owner
    but rather securing the machine from the owner
    its actually quite harmonious

    arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
    from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
    sacramento - political pigsty of the western world
    or a babys arm holding an apple
     
  8. trippy

    trippy Guest

    In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
    took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...

    > In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    >
    > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > >In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    > > > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    > > >
    > > >its the night of the living fed

    > >
    > > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero

    >
    > if we held billy gates criminally liable as a co-conspirator
    > that might motivate them to clean up their act


    hahahahahahahaha

    good one


    --
    trippy
    mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
    sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
    http://www.myspace.com/starshine_moonbeam

    NP: "You Can't Kill Rock N' Roll" -- Ozzy Osbourne

    "What did I tell the kid. It's about how hard you can get hit,
    and keep moving forward. It's about how much you can take,
    and keep moving forward. Get up."

    -- Sylvester Stallone "Rocky Balboa"
     
  9. FrozenNorth

    FrozenNorth Guest

    trippy took a can of maroon spray paint on November 30, 2007 04:24 pm and
    wrote the following:

    > In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    > sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
    > took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
    >
    >> In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    >>
    >> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >> > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> >
    >> > >In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    >> > > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    >> > >
    >> > >> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    >> > >
    >> > >its the night of the living fed
    >> >
    >> > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero

    >>
    >> if we held billy gates criminally liable as a co-conspirator
    >> that might motivate them to clean up their act

    >
    > hahahahahahahaha
    >
    > good one
    >

    Wait till Steve Balmer tries to break him out by throwing chairs at the
    jail.

    --
    Lits Slut #9
    Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.
     
  10. On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org>
    wrote:

    >On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >>In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    >>
    >>> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html

    >>
    >>its the night of the living fed

    >
    >Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero


    oh, godzilla, how do i love thee? let me count the ways.

    <swoon>

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    this signature might or might not be for mimus.
    but it is for hatchetmama and shirley and smee.

    and LaBlueGirl and Dr. Flonkenstein.
    farewell for the time being, frankb. may you learn
    more mysteries on the other side than one can count
    on this plane.
     
  11. In article <MPG.21ba3ba4e8a3ae0898a5e9@news.alt.net>,
    trippy <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:

    > In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    > sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
    > took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
    >
    > > In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    > > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > >
    > > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > > > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    > > > > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    > > > >
    > > > >its the night of the living fed
    > > >
    > > > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero

    > >
    > > if we held billy gates criminally liable as a co-conspirator
    > > that might motivate them to clean up their act

    >
    > hahahahahahahaha
    >
    > good one


    you may say im a dreamer
    but im not the only one
    i hope someday youll join us
    and the world will be rid of microsoft

    arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
    from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
    sacramento - political pigsty of the western world
    or a babys arm holding an apple
     
  12. ???hw??f

    ???hw??f Guest

    On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:50 GMT
    FrozenNorth <frozennorth123@gmail.com> wasted precious bandwith
    with:

    > trippy took a can of maroon spray paint on November 30, 2007 04:24
    > pm and wrote the following:
    >
    > > In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    > > sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys
    > > des anges took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
    > > said "Oh Wow"...
    > >
    > >> In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    > >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > >> > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> > >In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    > >> > > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > >> > >
    > >> > >> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    > >> > >
    > >> > >its the night of the living fed
    > >> >
    > >> > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    > >>
    > >> if we held billy gates criminally liable as a co-conspirator
    > >> that might motivate them to clean up their act

    > >
    > > hahahahahahahaha
    > >
    > > good one
    > >

    > Wait till Steve Balmer tries to break him out by throwing chairs
    > at the jail.
    >

    Easy Peasy...Ballmer just has the NSA activate the backdoor in the
    M$ controlled jail and opens the doors :)


    --
    www.hackaday.com
     
  13. trippy

    trippy Guest

    In article <20071201082411.12d71bb6@vector>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A7=F1
    =FChw=A4=A3f?= took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
    said "Oh Wow"...

    > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:50 GMT
    > FrozenNorth <frozennorth123@gmail.com> wasted precious bandwith
    > with:
    >
    > > trippy took a can of maroon spray paint on November 30, 2007 04:24
    > > pm and wrote the following:
    > >
    > > > In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    > > > sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys
    > > > des anges took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
    > > > said "Oh Wow"...
    > > >
    > > >> In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    > > >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > > >> > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > >> >
    > > >> > >In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    > > >> > > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > >> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > >its the night of the living fed
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    > > >>
    > > >> if we held billy gates criminally liable as a co-conspirator
    > > >> that might motivate them to clean up their act
    > > >
    > > > hahahahahahahaha
    > > >
    > > > good one
    > > >

    > > Wait till Steve Balmer tries to break him out by throwing chairs
    > > at the jail.
    > >

    > Easy Peasy...Ballmer just has the NSA activate the backdoor in the
    > M$ controlled jail and opens the doors :)


    Heh.


    --
    trippy
    mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
    sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
    http://www.myspace.com/starshine_moonbeam

    NP: "You Can't Kill Rock N' Roll" -- Ozzy Osbourne

    "What did I tell the kid. It's about how hard you can get hit,
    and keep moving forward. It's about how much you can take,
    and keep moving forward. Get up."

    -- Sylvester Stallone "Rocky Balboa"
     
  14. In article <MPG.21bb440ef6616d5c98a5ee@news.alt.net>,
    trippy <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:

    > In article <20071201082411.12d71bb6@vector>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A7=F1
    > =FChw=A4=A3f?= took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
    > said "Oh Wow"...
    >
    > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:50 GMT
    > > FrozenNorth <frozennorth123@gmail.com> wasted precious bandwith
    > > with:
    > >
    > > > trippy took a can of maroon spray paint on November 30, 2007 04:24
    > > > pm and wrote the following:
    > > >
    > > > > In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    > > > > sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys
    > > > > des anges took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
    > > > > said "Oh Wow"...
    > > > >
    > > > >> In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    > > > >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > > > >>
    > > > >> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > > > >> > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > > >> >
    > > > >> > >In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    > > > >> > > Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > > > >> > >
    > > > >> > >> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    > > > >> > >
    > > > >> > >its the night of the living fed
    > > > >> >
    > > > >> > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    > > > >>
    > > > >> if we held billy gates criminally liable as a co-conspirator
    > > > >> that might motivate them to clean up their act
    > > > >
    > > > > hahahahahahahaha
    > > > >
    > > > > good one
    > > > >
    > > > Wait till Steve Balmer tries to break him out by throwing chairs
    > > > at the jail.
    > > >

    > > Easy Peasy...Ballmer just has the NSA activate the backdoor in the
    > > M$ controlled jail and opens the doors :)

    >
    > Heh.


    i think we should hold microsoft customers personally liable
    for the damage their machines do

    track the ip address back to the zombie
    and go after the owner for gross negligence

    arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
    from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
    sacramento - political pigsty of the western world
    or a babys arm holding an apple
     
  15. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:
    > In article <MPG.21bb440ef6616d5c98a5ee@news.alt.net>,
    > trippy <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
    >
    >>In article <20071201082411.12d71bb6@vector>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A7=F1
    >>=FChw=A4=A3f?= took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
    >>said "Oh Wow"...
    >>
    >>>On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:50 GMT
    >>>FrozenNorth <frozennorth123@gmail.com> wasted precious bandwith
    >>>with:
    >>>
    >>>>trippy took a can of maroon spray paint on November 30, 2007 04:24
    >>>>pm and wrote the following:
    >>>>
    >>>>>In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    >>>>>sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys
    >>>>>des anges took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
    >>>>>said "Oh Wow"...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    >>>>>> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >>>>>>>greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>In article <d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,
    >>>>>>>>Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>its the night of the living fed
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>if we held billy gates criminally liable as a co-conspirator
    >>>>>>that might motivate them to clean up their act
    >>>>>
    >>>>>hahahahahahahaha
    >>>>>
    >>>>>good one
    >>>>>
    >>>>Wait till Steve Balmer tries to break him out by throwing chairs
    >>>>at the jail.
    >>>
    >>>Easy Peasy...Ballmer just has the NSA activate the backdoor in the
    >>>M$ controlled jail and opens the doors :)

    >>
    >>Heh.

    >
    > i think we should hold microsoft customers personally liable
    > for the damage their machines do
    >


    Federal crime with mandatory minimum sentence of 20 years. Another 20
    million or so in jail with damages and fines to pay off ought to put
    the rest of the slackers on the straight and narrow.

    > track the ip address back to the zombie
    > and go after the owner for gross negligence
    >


    There's some spoofing going on - packets with a source address
    not the same as the initiating machine. No biggy if the innocent
    participants do some rate and/or quantity limiting (unix/linux) but
    unpatched windoze machines would just keep bouncing away...


    --
    nuts
     
  16. ???hw??f

    ???hw??f Guest

    On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:07:18 -0800
    mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
    <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wasted precious bandwith with:

    > In article <MPG.21bb440ef6616d5c98a5ee@news.alt.net>,
    > trippy <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
    >
    > > In article <20071201082411.12d71bb6@vector>,
    > > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A7=F1=FChw=A4=A3f?= took the hamburger meat,
    > > threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
    > >
    > > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:50 GMT
    > > > FrozenNorth <frozennorth123@gmail.com> wasted precious
    > > > bandwith with:
    > > >
    > > > > trippy took a can of maroon spray paint on November 30, 2007
    > > > > 04:24 pm and wrote the following:
    > > > >
    > > > > > In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    > > > > > sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten
    > > > > > tomys des anges took the hamburger meat, threw it on the
    > > > > > grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
    > > > > >
    > > > > >> In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    > > > > >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair
    > > > > >fheal> > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com>
    > > > > >wrote:> >
    > > > > >> > >In article
    > > > > ><d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,> > > Daedalus
    > > > > ><jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:> > >
    > > > > >> > >>
    > > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html>

    > >
    > > > > >> > >its the night of the living fed
    > > > > >> >
    > > > > >> > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> if we held billy gates criminally liable as a
    > > > > >co-conspirator> that might motivate them to clean up their
    > > > > >act
    > > > > >
    > > > > > hahahahahahahaha
    > > > > >
    > > > > > good one
    > > > > >
    > > > > Wait till Steve Balmer tries to break him out by throwing
    > > > > chairs at the jail.
    > > > >
    > > > Easy Peasy...Ballmer just has the NSA activate the backdoor in
    > > > the M$ controlled jail and opens the doors :)

    > >
    > > Heh.

    >
    > i think we should hold microsoft customers personally liable
    > for the damage their machines do
    >
    > track the ip address back to the zombie
    > and go after the owner for gross negligence
    >

    Its like holding a bank accountable for having a Dollar Store
    padlock on its safe. Just because its stupid dosent make it illegal
    :)

    --
    www.alternet.org
     
  17. In article <20071202082216.17e8d3d3@vector>, ?nuhw??f <snuhwolf@netscape.net>
    wrote:

    > On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:07:18 -0800
    > mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
    > <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
    >
    > > In article <MPG.21bb440ef6616d5c98a5ee@news.alt.net>,
    > > trippy <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > > In article <20071201082411.12d71bb6@vector>,
    > > > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A7=F1=FChw=A4=A3f?= took the hamburger meat,
    > > > threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
    > > >
    > > > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:50 GMT
    > > > > FrozenNorth <frozennorth123@gmail.com> wasted precious
    > > > > bandwith with:
    > > > >
    > > > > > trippy took a can of maroon spray paint on November 30, 2007
    > > > > > 04:24 pm and wrote the following:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > In article <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    > > > > > > sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten
    > > > > > > tomys des anges took the hamburger meat, threw it on the
    > > > > > > grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >> In article <0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,
    > > > > > >> Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand mair
    > > > > > >fheal> > greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com>
    > > > > > >wrote:> >
    > > > > > >> > >In article
    > > > > > ><d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,> > > Daedalus
    > > > > > ><jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:> > >
    > > > > > >> > >>
    > > > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html>
    > > >
    > > > > > >> > >its the night of the living fed
    > > > > > >> >
    > > > > > >> > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >> if we held billy gates criminally liable as a
    > > > > > >co-conspirator> that might motivate them to clean up their
    > > > > > >act
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > hahahahahahahaha
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > good one
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > Wait till Steve Balmer tries to break him out by throwing
    > > > > > chairs at the jail.
    > > > > >
    > > > > Easy Peasy...Ballmer just has the NSA activate the backdoor in
    > > > > the M$ controlled jail and opens the doors :)
    > > >
    > > > Heh.

    > >
    > > i think we should hold microsoft customers personally liable
    > > for the damage their machines do
    > >
    > > track the ip address back to the zombie
    > > and go after the owner for gross negligence
    > >

    > Its like holding a bank accountable for having a Dollar Store
    > padlock on its safe. Just because its stupid dosent make it illegal


    stupidity to the point of negligence where others get hurt is a tort
    and if its bad enough becomes criminal

    arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
    from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
    sacramento - political pigsty of the western world
    or a babys arm holding an apple
     
  18. ???hw??f

    ???hw??f Guest

    On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:47:26 -0800
    mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
    <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wasted precious bandwith with:

    > In article <20071202082216.17e8d3d3@vector>, ?nuhw??f
    > <snuhwolf@netscape.net> wrote:
    >
    > > On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:07:18 -0800
    > > mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
    > > <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
    > >
    > > > In article <MPG.21bb440ef6616d5c98a5ee@news.alt.net>,
    > > > trippy <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > In article <20071201082411.12d71bb6@vector>,
    > > > > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A7=F1=FChw=A4=A3f?= took the hamburger meat,
    > > > > threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
    > > > >
    > > > > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:50 GMT
    > > > > > FrozenNorth <frozennorth123@gmail.com> wasted precious
    > > > > > bandwith with:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > trippy took a can of maroon spray paint on November 30,
    > > > > > > 2007 04:24 pm and wrote the following:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > In article
    > > > > > > > <mair_fheal-9AF038.11062030112007@sn-ip.vsrv-
    > > > > > > > sjc.supernews.net>, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > > > > > > > greykitten tomys des anges took the hamburger meat,
    > > > > > > > threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >> In article
    > > > > > > ><0o40l3t7bv8gpvn2i88rgp5798v29s49vs@4ax.com>,>
    > > > > > > >Daedalus <jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:>
    > > > > > > >> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:24:35 -0800, mariposas rand
    > > > > > > >mair fheal> > greykitten tomys des anges
    > > > > > > ><mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:> >
    > > > > > > >> > >In article
    > > > > > > ><d86uk35q8g9cs0cdoqlbu9706r8ourb7b3@4ax.com>,> > >
    > > > > > > >Daedalus<jade@netk0o0oks.org> wrote:> > >
    > > > > > > >> > >>
    > > > > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.h
    > > > > > > >tml>
    > > > >
    > > > > > > >> > >its the night of the living fed
    > > > > > > >> >
    > > > > > > >> > Govzilla Vs. Hacker Zero
    > > > > > > >>
    > > > > > > >> if we held billy gates criminally liable as a
    > > > > > > >co-conspirator> that might motivate them to clean up
    > > > > > > >their act
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > hahahahahahahaha
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > good one
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Wait till Steve Balmer tries to break him out by
    > > > > > > throwing chairs at the jail.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > Easy Peasy...Ballmer just has the NSA activate the
    > > > > > backdoor in the M$ controlled jail and opens the doors :)
    > > > >
    > > > > Heh.
    > > >
    > > > i think we should hold microsoft customers personally liable
    > > > for the damage their machines do
    > > >
    > > > track the ip address back to the zombie
    > > > and go after the owner for gross negligence
    > > >

    > > Its like holding a bank accountable for having a Dollar Store
    > > padlock on its safe. Just because its stupid dosent make it
    > > illegal

    >
    > stupidity to the point of negligence where others get hurt is a
    > tort and if its bad enough becomes criminal
    >


    I think tried to sue M$...the result is that they havent paid
    anything and the NSA got a backdoor :)

    So all the smarties went to linux. Whereupon redhat promptly helped
    the NSA develop SELinux...which also has a backdoor.

    I'll stick with BeOS.
     

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