Evolution...

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Bonedigger, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    Who believes in Evolution and if you're a support of that theory, have we as a race evolved physically and mentally to our fullest potential?
     
  2. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    Although it remains a theory because we havent ironed out all the details, I dont think evolution is a matter of belief...and no, I dont think we have evolved to our fullest potential, especially mentally.
     
  3. Bluegill

    Bluegill New Member

    Yes, it seems obvious to me that humans and all our fellow creatures have evolved from other species.

    And no, I think humans could do a heck of a lot of evolving (physically and mentally and culturally) before I'd say we couldn't do any better.
     
  4. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    On the other hand, if humans continued to evolve, would they still be "human?"

    I think evolution has to be considered the best available theory of how we got to where we are unless/until someone comes up with new or more evidence/information. This possibility shouldn't be ruled out.
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt New Member

    I believe in evolution, in fact someday I honestly believe that we may evolve into human beings.
    Until then, we will just continue to kill each other in a meaningless random manner.

    Perhaps some day in the distant future we may be deserving of humanity.
    Until then, we can only hope for evolution and that we will improve ourselves.
     
  6. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    All I can say about evolution is that it doesn't seem to be an equal opportunity employer. It seems to skip some generations and is quite dominant in others. If evolution has a flaw, it is that we all seem to evolve at such different rates even within the same society. Explain that one Charles. :hatch:
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt New Member


    Generations?

    Sometimes it skips geographic areas.
     
  8. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Well, I just attribute that to evolutionary isolation. If there is no competition, there is no pressure to evolve either.
     
  9. Danr

    Danr New Member

    If you have ever taken a university level class on this they will convince you about evelution. The problem is arrogance of scientists on this issue.
     
  10. Spider

    Spider New Member

    well although I am strongly catholic and have a strong belief in God, I guess I will still share this with you for your opinion.

    awhile back I read an article about how chimps have started to evolve within their environment and read a little more into it. They have been witnessed to use sharp sticks as spears and go off to hunt smaller animals. The scientist in the article talked about how this resembles human evolution supposedly. The species starts to become more dependent on meat for food, their protein intake increases greatly, and their brain becomes a hell of a lot more complex. They become smarter and start to form little tribes. They are are smart enough to gain a steady food supply and they settle in one area (a copy of of what humans did earlier) They are starting to use other tools for getting food out of some trees and have further developed their social structure.

    These chimps were reported to be more on the plains and flat lands rather than the jungle. The chimps from the plains have separated themselves from the jungle chimps (resembling human evolution when the now modern human species edged out its rival).

    I don't know what you want to gather from this but there are certainly changes in the species now, though I still have no idea what to think.
     
  11. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Have we fully envolved? Heck no!

    I am still waiting (and hoping) for natural selection to deal with the likes of our village idiot!
     
  12. Danr

    Danr New Member

    I think most Catholics believe in evelution (the pope said it is ok to go with evelution)
     
  13. Spider

    Spider New Member

    well i meant dealing with how life started and the evolution of life for my first statement
     
  14. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    I read about this too and I can't wait until they capture this behavior on film.
     
  15. bromac4

    bromac4 New Member

    Evolution has occurred and continues to occur and because it can be observed in the present and in the past through fossils it does not require belief.
    The other thing is that it is not necessarily headed anywhere. There are organisms , succesful in their environments, that have remained unchanged for thousands of years.

    Bill
     
  16. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    Since this thread isn't headed anywhere either, I'll throw out an idea. Natural selection is almost certainly true. It's just math and probability that out of a large group, the ones genetically best suited to the environment will live and reproduce more often and eventually dominate the gene pool after a time. However, the idea that a lower life form can transform into a higher life form through the same process is not as clear cut to me, even after long periods of time. So I would leave open the possibility that some other force is at work, maybe as a supplement to natural selection, to explain the diversity of species.
     
  17. bqcoins

    bqcoins New Member

    Sorry you get a no from me on evolution. My relatives aren't monkeys or salamaders.
     
  18. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    Well, in my book I proposed the hypothesis that Neanderthal and early homo sapiens (Cro Magnon) interbred and the Neander genes are still living in nearly every living human today...
     
  19. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    That seems likely to me...I mean...some humans will have sex with anything...and I say this in all seriousness...so Cro-Magnon see's Neanderthal walking by...some will kill it, some will most certainly have sex with it...the question is, genes close enough to produce offspring?


    I also saw a documentary about the hunting apes...They live on the plains more and dont live in the trees as much thus they are walking on the ground more (like our earlier ancestors who probably came out of the trees).

    The females more than males, make weapons and hunt bush babies.

    There is a theory that says when we started hunting, when we started eating more protein, our brain became more complex and larger....causing us to evolve...this seems to me a first step...

    I cannot understand how a person can look, even at a disjoined timeline of fossil evidence for all types of creatures and not see evolution happening. The fact that there are no homosapien fossils along side earlier fossils that show features both ape like and man like...it seems like some form of denial...they showed in fossil evidence the evolution of a horse from a small pig / dog like creature...certain humans just didnt pop into existence at the moment the earlier fully human fossils are found....It doesnt mean we came from apes...it could mean we and apes have a common ancestor...this seems to be undeniable.
     
  20. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 New Member

    I think there might be some members here on this forum that prove out Darwin's theory of evolution from other species. [​IMG]
     

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