ESPIONAGE you say?

§794. Gathering or delivering defense information to aid foreign government. - shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life.


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Just what was in those empty folders and where did it go?

 

Maybe Hillary's yoga workout routines?

 

How am I supposed to get THAT out of my head tonight???

 

Sorry. This probably won't help:

 

LOL!!!’ That’s it. I need some serious Ambien.

 

last meal? Big mac with cheetos?

 

MAGAs or maggots, can't hear you. They hate democracy because it means that they have to play by the rules of law and order. They only believe they can lose if there is cheating. That allows them to believe that their ideals aren't the real problem, which they definitely are, but rather they were cheated and the victims of some deep state conspiracy they can't manage to prove.

 

Pretty stupid question . . . Here’s a better question for you.

How did so many empty classified folders find their way into those boxes?

After all, not one of those folders contained any documents, and all that would be needed by the FBI to implicate Trump is the empty folders.

Moreover, one couldn’t very well take a real classified document and lose control of it by leaving it in a box now, could one, Mr. FBI Agent? Hmm? . . .

Yeah, stinks just as badly as the Steele dossier did.

 

Special Master. There goes the Biden Administration Campaign yadayada for a while.

 

Hopefully not too long before it's struck down in appeals. But it does probably buy him enough time to get within 60 days of the midterm election, which would seem to be the goal

 

Appeals? On what basis? There is absolutely no basis for excluding the participation of a neutral Special Master, agreed to by both sides.

 

That a special master should be used for attorney client privilege, sure. Not so much for the executive privilege. Part of the argument the judge wrote on this read: "The Supreme Court did not rule out the possibility of a former President overcoming an incumbent President on executive privilege matters"

That's insane. It puts executive privilege in the hands of an individual rather than the office. And somehow says the privilege of a former POTUS could be interpreted as outranking the current POTUS. Do you not see the problem with that? That's why despite Trump's repeated claims, lawyers have been echoing that former presidents don't have executive privilege, it belongs to the office.

 

Executive privilege of the sitting president has no place in this issue because of conflict of interest. Therefore, that perspective need not even be considered.

 

How about the 40 years of medical history?

 

Do you disagree then that the privilege belongs to the office, not an individual?

 

The purpose of the Special Master should be as arbiter of what is admissible, based on the exclusion of material satisfying any of three specific conditions:

1. Materials falling under attorney-client privilege
2. Materials demonstrably declassified before Joe Biden’s inauguration (demonstrably includes reliable testimony and / or written / printed / recorded evidence)
3. Materials not specifically targeted by subject search warrant (documents not bearing the title and / or document number, as was signed out for delivery to then President Trump)

 

1. Sounds fair to me, but those things were already going to be returned to him so there's not a real need. As I said earlier, this is clearly just a delaying tactic.

2. The warrant wasn't concerned with whether they were declassified or not, merely that they had classified markings. But I do agree Trump has the burden of proof to show they were declassified if he doesn't want to further compound issues.

3. Generally I agree, but we'd need to overturn the plain-view doctrine. Which would do a lot of good for a lot of people.

 

This is not just about what will be returned to Trump. It’s also about discovery, and what may not be presented as part of the DOJ’s case. Therefore, it is most certainly not just a delay tactic.

As concerns the plain view doctrine, if the warrant was issued improperly (not seeking specifically named / numbered documents, for one example), the fruits of the search should not be admissible.

 

What do you think might be relevant to the case but should not be considered? Many of the items grabbed as part of greater boxes (medical history, passports, etc) are inconsequential to the case and wouldn't be used because they wouldn't aid the specific case. Other documents may start new cases however if other crimes are discovered.

I do think the plain view doctrine is an overreach, but it's the law so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

No, it's total delay. Read the room man.