Eighty-three percent of American physicians have considered leaving....

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  1. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    http://news.yahoo.com/report-83-per...-183020486.html;_ylt=A2KJNTv5OvxPIl0APAfQtDMD

    Highlighting is mine. I think it is rather self explanatory.
     
  2. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    That is rather a large leap to make from a sample group of 699! also would someone care to tell me if 83% of all American Dr are considering leaving there practices what are they going to do for a living? it is not as though they can just up sticks and become plumbers or painters is it?
     
  3. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    My doctor, though he hasn't mentioned leaving the field, believes his workload is going to dramatically increase (free & easy access to anything increases the demand) as will his expenses...supplies, staffing, etc....while income will decrease due to government pricing & redtape
     
  4. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    It will be so discouraging to see people going to the doctor for a hangnail. Don't think for a moment that the current American populace won't do it! We've gone from a once hardworking, self-sustaining people to a mass of leeches with the stroke of Obama's socialist tax pen.
     
  5. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    For the doubting Thomas we have here;


    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/gen/indepth/polls/faq.html
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I think the scariest part of it is not what happens to the doctors today, but how many possible future doctors t scares away. He is trying to lower the cost. In every society I would like to live in, a shortages RAISE the price. And in this case, shortages will also reduce the quality and quantity of health care. I guess the death rate will rise until the supply meets the demand.
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Here's something else to consider:
    Obamcare (at least the taxation, penalties & who has/doesn't have acceptable healthcare) is going to be enforced by the IRS. Imagine the redtape with that!
     
  8. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    And with the IRS, you are guilty until proven innocent.
     
  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Apparently the insurance companies are bracing for a lot of scams regarding pre-existing conditions & the penalties for not having insurance. They expect a lot of people to forego paying monthly insurance premiums, take the $ hit for not having acceptable insurance then sign up for a policy only when diagnosed with an illness. In doing this they don't have to pay a premium for 30-90 days & even then they can't be cancelled or turned away for failure to pay if they are being treated for a diagnosed & covered illness. If/when they recover they simply cancel their coverage until the next illness arises.
    Somehow I feel that this "affordable" insurance is going to cost us a lot more money
     
  10. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    That's exactly what I intend to do and I encourage everyone to do the same. Although, it won't be scam. I'll simply take advantage of the way the system is designed. And so should everyone else.
     
  11. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    As I am the only one here who dared to bring up the sample number used I have to figure that you are reffering to me as the doubting Thomas (a term I find rather insulting by the way) I know full well how a poll works thank you.
    I do notice that you did not answer my basic question as to what the 83% who leave the proffession are going to do to earn a living? are they going to simply quit and live of the state?
    What David said makes sense that there work load would increase as would the paper work, that is a legitimate argument as is the one regarding scams (Insurance companies already watch out for medical scams due to the whiplash claim scandals exposed over the past years, so they have a fair idea as what to watch for.
    But to say that 83% are considering leaving the proffession and quoting it as gospel is simply scaremongering, as is trying to predict the number who MIGHT NOT become doctors in the future. Just saying
     
  12. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Apparently our Thomas thinks he ought to show the professionals how to do their job, LOL. So I guess us kiddies had better learn to listen to him, LOL!
     
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  13. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Yep lets take a 699 person sample and take that result to encompass a profession that numbers just under 1 million (
    954,000 of which 352,908 are primary-care
    ) and decide from that sample that 83% of all American Dr are considering giving up there profession LOL Sure I think I will cast doubt on the validity of that survey, but if you choose to take it as gospel then I suggest that you talk to your Dr soon to make sure he is not one of those giving up LOL
     
  14. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I guess Gallup, Yankelovich, Rasmussen, Roper, etc.are not as wise as you. Maybe you should go teach them what you know about polling. I am sure they would be more than happy to know as much as you do about polling, LOL.
     
  15. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    What you mean that unlike you I dont take them on face value LOL and question the numbers Ohh bad naughty me LOL
     
  16. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Nope! What I mean is that I actually read and understood the question from the poll. I have also read and understand the statistics behind putting a poll together. Both of those you have actually posted (probably unwittingly so) that you do not understand either.

    Now, you can go away or continue this, but I am done. The purpose of this thread was not to discuss whether or not the recognized standards for polling meets your standards or not.

    So, as I read somewhere else, "OK Kiddy enough ok back to discussions please"

    BTW, I also find it most interesting that the moderator spends his time misinterpreting others posts in order to create arguments.
     
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  17. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    You brought up my understanding of polls not me :D
     
  18. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Hey Steve! You must be part of the Lame-Steam Media because you are telling them things they don't want to or simply can't hear.
     
  19. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    What gets me is how I am suppose to have misinterpreted the original post!! or how asking a simple question can be called starting a argument. If people do not wish there links or posts to be questioned or are unsure as to how such posts stand up to scrutiny then why post them? are we suppose to take everything at face value?
     
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    De Orc Well-Known Member

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