Driver's License or Gun?

Today is my last day to drive legally in Indiana. Hopefully short term.

Why? One might ask?


Well, I don't have to blow through a tube to start my van.
I've never been involved in a high speed chase.

I've never done a lot of things except one.



I couldn't pass the vision test.

That's it and I really don't have a huge problem with it.
Although I have been driving nearly 40 years there are laws and regulations that involve the safety of the average American.

In their opinion I am not fit to drive. I have one ticket in my life.

I was doing 68 in a 55. I was headed to my wife and I's honeymoon.
We were in the middle of nowhere and paid the ticket by credit card.
Old fashioned swiper card machine and got a receipt.
$30.

Nothing since then. Except my vision.
I'm the guy that does 32 in a 30 and people get impatient. If they tailgate too bad I slow down.
Just following the rules and being safe.



Bottom line is they have all these rules and regulations for cars, driving them, insurance, emissions (where I live) and people follow them (for the most part). These things cost money.

GUNS ON THE OTHER HAND......


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Much easier to get.
Who cares about vision after all?


My record would reveal nothing because I've done nothing. So I can buy a gun.


Yep. I can get the high powered stuff.
Never know when those "license police" are going to show up at your door after all.
Gotta be able to protect yourself.


















Can a car kill people?
Absolutely and at times it's intentional.









Can a gun kill people.?
Absolutely and more frequently intentional.


But a gun is easier to get.

 

I could spend an hour submitting a full rebuttal to your post, line-by-line, but my time is worth more than that, so I'll limit it to just one . . .

Guns are much harder to get than cars . . . you can find a car for sale on just about every street in the country.

 

LOL

 

LOL . . . what's that? . . . Libertarian Or Leave?

 

Cars kill many many more people than guns do.
I hope you can correct your vision.

 

Sorry, Jack, that is no longer true.

 

A new car costs a good deal of $$$, more than I would choose to spend, especially considering the depreciation value and the fact that most new cars have hidden issues that are only revealed through time, some of which are fatal flaws in the design or engineering aspects of the car.

Guns don't really lose much value over time.

Used cars are relatively easy to buy, and so are guns (new or old), from my point of view. Still, a decent used car is going to cost a couple grand. With a couple grand, I could buy half a dozen decent guns.

 

Actually, cars don't kill. Drivers do.

 

Meaning: You are legally allowed to protect yourself with a gun, despite a vision impairment that legally prevents your from being able to drive. You cannot legally see well enough to drive, but you can legally see well enough to use your gun to protect yourself.

Gotta be able to protect yourself from blurs.

 

Please do. I would suggest starting another thread though.
One that actually is related with the subject that is.

Yes there are always cars available for sale. Guns as well.


Of course, I mentioned nothing about the availability of cars. That was not my point at all.



It was about getting a license to drive them.



I don't need a license for my gun.


Yes, I actually own one.

 

I do not agree with blind folks being able to buy guns.....just for the record.

 

Could be world wide. Car and suicide bombs would play heavily in the overall carnage.


Yet I can'[t get a license to drive a car.


But I can still get a gun.


P.S. I have an eye appointment next week.

 

I'm not sure where you're going with all this, Clembo, but I'm not seeing the similarity of driving a car and owning a firearm.

The State can regulate who drives since driving is a privilege and not a Constitutional right such as bearing a firearm.

Are you trying to make a point showing the difference between a privilege and a right? If so, you'll get no argument from me since I would agree that there is a HUGE difference between the two.

Or are you trying to make a point showing that visual acuity should be a prerequisite to retaining a Constituitional right to bear firearms?

Again, I'm really not sure where you're going with all this.

Besides all that, I'm sorry to hear that your vision is degrading. If it's any consolation, I truly sympathize.

 

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We're probably all much safer with guns in the hands of the blind, than we would be with steering wheels.

 

Ahhh... a glimmer of hope when all is dark.


Someone finally kinda got it.


I don't walk around and stumble into walls. I don't see blurs.


I still work at a coin shop. I see fine with a 10x loupe.I see well enough to read, to type, to do whatever most people do.



I just can't legally drive.

Yet I can buy a gun. No problem.

 

Actually, you did make the following comparative statement, implying that guns are easier to obtain . . . not to license. A bit more clarity would have headed off my reply.

 

Let me know when you test that theory and please record it as I don't want to be anywhere near it.


BLIND PEOPLE WITH STEERING WHEELS AND GUNS!!!!


Reality TV at it's best for sure.


Someone here may be blind but it's not me.

 

Trust me . . . I don't either, but I have no doubt that it would be much easier to hit targets with big projectiles than with little ones, especially for those with poor eyesight.

 

OK, so you can read, type and do whatever most people do and you can buy a gun. Alright, I get it. The State isn't taking away your right to buy or possess a car, but instead they're taking away your privilege to drive.

I still don't see how you're equating your Constitutional right to bear firearms with your privilege to drive.

Apples and oranges here, Clembo.

 

This is what happens when the mildly visually impaired, yet well meaning, try to lead the blindly ignorant to a truth...the blindly ignorant look for any way they can to ignore the truth.