Drill Baby Drill!

I just think it's sickening that the vultures know where to line up for the profits and know exactly who to send the checks to, but barely even exist on paper when responsibility enters the picture. It is typical of corporate business though.

 

It is the definition of a corporation taken to the extreme. Limited liability. Not only for the owners anymore but for the corporate entity too. And provided by the 2 parties in our government, btw.

 

What it they say, We're a Capitalist society when there are profits to be made but a Socialst society when things go wrong. That seems to be the truth no matter which party is in charge.

 

Yes profit is a capitalist idea...profit is private...accountable to other high level profiteers only..the responsibility of its aftermath is society's. It's financial and moral costs are everyone elses. Didn't you see that Fox bulletin??

 

Drill baby drill. What happened to that RNC chant??

 

Where is the outrage for what "the Obama" is allowing to happen in the Gulf? I dove some beautiful sites this past week & to imagine what those areas could potentially face is heartbreaking....the clear water, the underwater life...it just shouldn't be allowed to happen. Where's all the gov't regulation the libs scream for? The dems have had control for a few years now. what happened? I see one of "the Obama's" officials has resigned, wonder what's next?

 

Boy! Is this typical Right wing double-speak. "You're a commie socialist if you try and regulate free enterprise" but once the disaster the Democrats predicted would eventually happen, does happen, "It's the Democrat's fault for not regulating the oil industry." Never mind the fact that for the last year and a half the Democrats have had to deal with the worst recession in history, two wars, and an opposition party that is against EVERYTHING. If you really want a clean environment, you belong to the wrong political party. You can’t have it both ways and blaming the wrong party couldn’t make you look sillier.

 

Hey, it's good to see you've crept out of freshman indoctrination for a moment, Dr.

I made this post to point out the hypocrisy of the liberal elite dem establishment....so much is blamed on conservatives for a failure to regulate but when the liberal elite dems had the opportunity to actually do something rather than simply complain, they didn't.
I don't think this disaster was anyone's fault, really. It was an accident. But just imagine if Bush were President when this happened- what would you be saying Dr Moen?

 

If you can remember one instance where Republicans were for MORE regulations of any industry, you are a better man than I. Republicans and the Bush/Cheney team especially let the oil industry “self-regulate”. The Democrats as recently as a year ago were warning of the potential danger of letting the oil industry regulate itself and yet you choose to find fault with the Dems for not putting this issue ahead of the recession, the wars in the middle east, the housing crisis, the job situation, the banking failures, the health care crisis, because they inherited from your party? This is a situation that has been the culmination of decades of Republicans weakening regulation and their strict adherence to laissez-faire capitalism (look it up) and it IS somebody’s fault…. You and your party faithful just have a difficult time admitting it.

 

I'm not calling for more or for less regulation, merely pointing out as much emphasis as the liberal elite dem establishment has put on regulation & as much criticizm as they have leveled against the right it seems oddly hypocritical that when they've had the opportunity to do something about it they have not. And look where we are now.
This didn't happen under Bush, it happened after "the Obama" has been prez for nearly 2 years & the dems have had the run for Congress a longer period of time. It's just an excuse to claim the dems have had too much on their plates, just a lame excuse...or a commentary on how uneffective "the Obama" has been, maybe? If, as you say, so much of "the Obamas" energy has been spent on the items listed above, why do we still have the same problems + a gov't controlled healthcare program that neither the left or the right believes in, spiraling debt & a world economy teetering on the edge? Says alot about this guys fitness to rule, doesn't it?
You can defend this guy to your dying breath but sooner or later even you will have to face reality.

Oh, back to my original post....where's the moral outrage? Bush rec'd a lot of grief for his flyover after Katrina, has "the Obama" even done that?

 

What's hypocritical is doing everything in your power to make a disaster like this possible and then blaming the other side for letting it happen. THAT is textbook hypocrisy!

 

No, the hypocrisy is in a statement like the one you just made...complain, complain, complain but when put in a position to actually do something nothing is done. If what Bush did in his eight years trully was dangerous why didn't it happen back then? If it was so dangerous, why hasn't "the Obama" (or the liberal elite dems) done a single thing about it over the past few years? "the Obama" loves pointing fingers and letting others fall on a sword for him but the truth is simple- if there was no regulation or oversight then it's his fault....if inspectors were cozy with the oil companies, it's his fault. These things happened under his watch, they happened while he frittered. Even if the oil industry was the wild west under past presidents, "the Obama" has still had ample time to do something about it.

 

You simply have no ability to own up to the long standing policies of your own party. You choose to take the Fox News approach which is to blame the Democrats for the Republican drill baby drill mentality that they were pushing right up to the eve of this disaster.

Frankly, if you ask me, you sucked in too much Caribbean crude while scuba diving in the future Gulf of Mexico dead zone. The GOP owns this one just like they own the recession, two botched wars, and the banking crisis. YOUR inability to admit this doesn't mean Americans won't flock to the Democratic Party because of issues like this, immigration, and your evangelical brethren sex scandals. Your party is simply too dumb to continue to exist much longer. Enjoy the flounder. You’ve earned it.

 

How is this for stupid old white people?

The Politics of Oil Spills

We have some new national polling coming out tomorrow on offshore drilling. The most astounding number from the poll? 28% of Republicans said the recent oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico made them more likely to support drilling off the coast to an equal 28% who said it made them less likely to be supportive. 44% said it made no difference to them and that's understandable, but why would an oil spill make you more supportive of drilling?

Believe it or not there's bad news for Sarah Palin within those numbers. She gets 17% of the GOP 2012 vote from the 'oil spills are good' crowd, well behind Newt Gingrich's 31%. We theorized a couple weeks ago that a Gingrich run might hurt Palin's support with the absolute most conservative folks in the Republican Party, and these numbers would seem to provide some more evidence of that.

 

Your attempt to fire a shot gun blast and re-frame the argument simply doesn't work here.
Answer the question! If the process in place under our previous presidents Bush & Clinton were so bad why haven't you & your party changed it by now????????

 

Because the Democrats are less organized than lock-step Republicans. Democrats don't get everything they want and neither do the Republicans. You only have so much political capital no matter which party you belong to or how much of the political process you own. You know that!

Your question is ignorant and purposely so. Nobody gets into office and gets everything they want. They can only steer the ship Left or Right over time. The Republicans have made lazzaire-faire capitalism their mantra and given oil companies a free hand to cause ecological disasters like this one. Your problem is that you can’t see the big picture or simply refuse to see it. You make no sense at all. If you really cared about the environment, you wouldn't be a lock-step Republican. As long as there is money to be made, your vision doesn’t need to go any further. You’d make me laugh if you weren’t so detrimental to the planet we all have to live on.

 

Okay, now that you have posted a few tomc-like comments, answer the question.
It's either a big deal or it's not, it's either worthy of the liberal dems attention or it isn't. You know, at some point you liberal dems are going to have to own the issues. You can't keep blaming Bush, especially since you've had a few years to fix it.

 

So let me ask you a question. I know your famous proclivity for dodging questions but give it a try anyway. When the policies that the Republicans have pushed for decades fail completely as in their approach to lazzaire-faire capitalism and it’s failure to regulate the oil industry, your stance is to blame the Democrats for the failed policies of your own party? But at no point do you feel compelled to hold your own party accountable for its own behavior? Do I have that right?

 

And you wonder why people think Republicans are dumb!

 

Am I reading this thread correctly? Are you guys making an accindental oil leak political? Didnt a couple of people die on that platform when it exploded? And you guys are bantering about like there should be a punchline. Nice.