DOJ Justifies Drone Strikes Against Americans

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  1. Themistokles480

    Themistokles480 New Member

    View attachment 1506 These questions from the 100th percentile are killing me hahaha
     
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  2. CoinOKC
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    Obama Akin to Nixon, Bush, 'They're War Criminals,' Vents Cornel West
    That's right -- not just Nixon ... Nixon and Bush. Can vilification from the left get much worse than that?
    Cornel West continues to demonstrate why parents might want to think better of sending their children to Princeton, where West purportedly teaches when he isn't gushing over hip-hop and engaging in arcane rants over the airwaves. (audio clips after page break)
    On his most recent radio show with co-host Tavis Smiley, West condemned President Obama's legal justification for drone killings of Americans suspected of involvement with al Qaeda, saying Obama had become no different than George W. Bush and Richard Nixon, all being "war criminals" (audio) --
    SMILEY: This week's Senate confirmation hearing for John Brennan, the man who wants to head the CIA, capped off a week of criticism for his boss, President Barack Obama, over this license to kill American citizens. It's all related, Doc (West), in that Brennan would likely be the one carrying out Obama's orders to kill people they suspect as al Qaeda members, even if they've not committed any acts of terrorism. And so like the McCarthy era during the '50s, someone's membership in an organization rather than their actions can mark them in the eyes of Washington.
    The memo written by the Justice Department, in fact, even contains that this policy holds up to international law. We've discussed this to some degree in the past, but this week when this story broke of the Justice Department memo which gives this authorization to our president who happens to be Obama at the moment but any president now has the authorization, if you buy into this memo, to kill American citizens, in fact. Your thoughts on this so-called license to kill?
    WEST: No, but I think, my dear brother, the chickens are coming home to roost. We've been talking about this for a good while, the immorality of drones, dropping bombs on innocent people, it's been over 200 children so far. These are war crimes. I think we have to be very honest, let us not be deceived -- Nixon, Bush, Obama, they're war criminals. They have killed innocent people in the name of the struggle for freedom, but they're suspending the law, very much like Wall Street criminals. The law is suspended for them, but the law applies for the rest of us. If you and I, brother Tavis, if we kill an innocent person, we're going to jail.
    SMILEY: That's right.
    WEST: And we goin' be in their forever.
    SMILEY: Hmm mm.

    The ever-trenchant activist academic has become one of Obama's fiercest critics, saying last month that Obama was unworthy of taking the oath of office with his hand on Martin Luther King Jr.'s Bible. Within a week of Obama winning re-election last November, West derided him as a "Rockefeller Republican in blackface."
     
  3. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I can't say that I really have a problem with our use of drones.
     
  4. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Until one takes out your house anyway.
     
  5. CoinOKC
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    I completely agree. The use of drones lessens the chance of harm to our fighting men and women. The problem I have with drones (or any other instrument of death) is their use in killing Americans in direct violation of due process.
     
  6. Themistokles480

    Themistokles480 New Member

    You mean his wing of the nursing home.
     
  7. Themistokles480

    Themistokles480 New Member

    No you have plenty of other problems of much greater concern: like when the nurse will bring you your dinner with extra tea.
     
  8. CoinOKC
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    Jon Stewart addresses Obama's policy of using drones to kill Americans. Take a moment to watch these, they're entertaining. But look out, liberals, Stewart's comments may set your hair on fire. Click on the link at the bottom of this post to view the videos:

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    CLICK HERE TO VIEW VIDEO CLIPS
     
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  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    You can say that but, if you're living with & among terrorists, doesn't the threat of attack sorta come with the neighborhood?
     
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  11. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I'm guessing these silly remarks about nursing homes & nurses stem from the fact that I'm retired? Before you make yourself sound any dumber, you might want to know that I'm 46 yrs old. I retired early because I could. Now what?
     
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    He will post a picture of his brain - that brown Dairy Queen he usually posts.
     
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    Former Press Secretary Robert Gibbs claims that he was ordered to deny the drone program even existed. Where is the so-called transparency of the Obama administration?

    Gibbs: As Press Secretary, I Was Told Not To Acknowledge The Drone Program Even Exists

    (Washington Examiner) During a discussion about President Obama’s lack of transparency about the drone program, former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs explained on MSNBC this morning that he was ordered to never acknowledge the existence of the drone program.


    http://nation.foxnews.com/robert-gi...old-not-acknowledge-drone-program-even-exists

     
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    Senator Rand Paul displayed courage and stood up against the abuses and the trampling of the Constitution by Obama and his administration. Senator Paul obviously hates seeing our rights destroyed by Obama's policy of "targeted killing" of American citizens which (as you probably learned in 8th grade civics class) violates our Constitutional right to due process.

    Paul ends Senate filibuster of CIA nominee over drone concerns after nearly 13 hours
    March 7, 2013
    Nearly 13 hours after he started, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., ended a dramatic, old-fashioned filibuster early Thursday morning -- having held the floor for most of the day and night to rail against the administration's drone program while holding up the nomination of John Brennan for CIA director.
    Business in the Senate ground to a halt Wednesday as Paul, aided by colleagues from both parties, launched into the filibuster as he challenged the president’s authority to kill Americans with drones.
    Paul's filibuster was longer than most in U.S. history, as most flame out by the 10-hour mark. Paul finished speaking around 12:40 a.m. local time, and his filibuster lasted 12 hours and 52 minutes.
    "My legs hurt. My feet hurt. Everything hurts right now," Paul told Fox News shortly after stepping off the Senate floor, saying he believes "we did the best that we could."
    "I would be surprised if we didn’t hear back from the White House," Paul said.
    Watch Paul discuss his filibuster on Fox News at 2:05 p.m. ET on Thursday.
    In a show of support, Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell came to the Senate floor and congratulated Paul for his "tenacity and for his conviction." McConnell also called Obama's choice of Brennan a "controversial nominee."
    The late Rep. Strom Thurmond holds the record for the longest filibuster, at more than 24 hours.
    Paul is one of several lawmakers -- on both sides of the aisle -- who has raised concerns about the legal justification for launching drone strikes against Americans overseas. But Paul took to the floor after receiving a statement from Attorney General Eric Holder that creaked open the door to the possibility of using a drone to kill an American inside the United States.
    “To allow one man to accuse you in secret -- you never get notified you've been accused,” Paul said on the floor. “Your notification is the buzz of propellers on the drone as it flies overhead in the seconds before you're killed. Is that what we really want from our government?”
     
  17. JoeNation
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    Paul is a joke and you crawling up his ass makes you a smelly joke.
     
  18. CoinOKC
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    It sounds like you're defending Obama's violation of our right to due process. Typical.
     
  19. rlm's cents
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    So you are saying you favor the use of drones to kill any American the President deems a problem? Interesting! I wonder if at some point in the future that might include those who have threatened to burn government buildings, or maybe those who witnessed a crime and failed to report it.
     
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    BTW, as a blanket statement, drones can be used against Americans both in the US and outside the US in special circumstances. And a declarations of war qualifies as "due process". i.e. imminent threat (a sniper aiming at the president and many other such cases) or an enemy combatant in a declared war and the AUMF does in all respects qualify a declaration of war.
     

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