does this add up to you?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Danr, Jun 22, 2007.

  1. Danr

    Danr New Member

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    that guy with the red circle around his head, guess who , yes you guessed it. Osama bin Laden. Now really is that the same OBL that the propaganda creeps have been selling you? Something is wrong here.
     
  2. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Not sure that I fully understand your point Danrr, are you saying that because he once dressed and acted in a western fashion that he coudnt undergo a change? If he became dissalusioned with his life then reverting to the traditional ways & dress of his people is not strange.
     
  3. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Oh, throw in the fact that he worked for the CIA for a pretty chunk of time. The whole thing does not add up.
     
  4. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Why? because he worked for the CIA LOL a person can change aligences particularly if he decides his faith or country comes 1st. What you are failing to take into account is the simple fact that he is not a American, he is not a westerner, his values are not yours or mine. So a gain I ask you what dosn't add up?
     
  5. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    I think what is more amazing is that apparently Osama used to be a girl.
     
  6. alwayslost

    alwayslost New Member

    Certainly it does. A good deed never goes unpunished. Or as Dad use to say, "This is going to hurt me a lot more than it is going to hurt you."

    I have to admit that I stole some money. Probably about the amount of $2. It was to buy rides at the fair. I was only 10 years old but that was my latest crime. I had also refused to wash the dishes.
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    Good thing for daddy, or I would be in prison. Then the problem came up with the toilet seat, The females of the family were claiming that I was making the seat wet. Dad said to always put the seat up. Then I had a good laugh wihen my wife sat on the cold cermanic. She was startled. She said, "who left the seat up ?" Of course I denied everything. She outweighed me.
     
  7. SanMiguel

    SanMiguel New Member

    and kim jong il loves everything about western culture even though he keeps north korea communist, and saddam hussein loved his liquor even though muslims aren't supposed to drink alcohol. a few more: some priests touch little boys, some cops break the law, women give milk without eating grass, and the dc sniper used to be a u.s. army expert marksman.

    there's lots of things don't add up, but it doesn't change the fact.
     
  8. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Kim is quite a different case than Osama
     
  9. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Ok supposedly Osama has no links to his family (the Westerners gathered around the pink caddie) yet they still fund him. Now Osama's family are involved in the Carlyle group (which is partially run by daddy Bush and other neocons) yet they are still funding Osama.

    http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/26077.html look at that article and keep in mind that Osama's family still funds him.
    "
    There is, however the other side of the story. Bin Laden is a member of a big family. His father's financial inheritance has not been sorted. The brothers agreed to keep many assets of the father and distribute the profits only. Most of the brothers and sisters are observing Muslims and very keen not to "spoil" their income with money which is not theirs. They believe it is their duty to let the owner of any riyal to have it. The only way they guarantee that is by letting bin Laden's share reach him. Some of the brothers and sisters believed it was their religious duty to support this distinguished brother from their own money. While many are very careful not to irritate the royal family, many more do not care and insist on letting the money reach Osama.

    The way bin Laden family money is structured is very complicated because there is the big company and there are many small companies of few brothers together, and there are many individuals with their personal investment. To make the matter even more complex it is very well known that bin Laden family money is intimately mixed with the royal family money in a very complex way. Most of the companies are joint ventures with members of the royal family including King Fahad himself.
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    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../who/bio2.html


    Well DeOrc, still think everything adds up right?
     
  10. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    To think that Osama couldn't have been radicalized like thousands of others in the Middle East are everyday is just silly. Of course he could have been and was radicalized by Islamofascists beliefs that neither represent Islam or even a large part of Muslims in the Middle East. There are a significant number of radical Muslims but they are not the majority. Not yet anyway, but Bush is working on it and they may begin to outnumber sane Muslims soon enough.
     
  11. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Adds up to what I honestly have no idea as to what you are going on about, we have known for years that the Saudies and other Arab Goverments have funded terrorist organiisations, yet we do nothing about it LOL So they have financial interests in common with westerners like the Bush family, do you think this is news? As I said previously there standards are not ours, if they are funding him from family loyalty or religiouse fervor what is so strange about that?

    You started this with the pic of the family around a car then say somthing is strange here!! so it is a family photo what is strange about that?

    Then you say he worked for the CIA, agains o what Ho chi Mhin worked very closly with American inteligence during WWII, so did Tito With British Intel, events make for strange bed fellows.

    Now you start talking about the family giving him $$ again no suprise, same goes for members of theRoyal house of Saudi, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, and the list goes on & on.

    So again i ask what is odd??
     
  12. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Ok, but his family (the ones who were sitting around the table with daddy Bush on the morning of 9-11) still fund Osama.
     
  13. Danr

    Danr New Member

    the whole thing stinks. look at this:
    15 years old- totally westerner in London with close rich family
    30 years old- working for CIA, sort of Muslim extremeist but works for USA.
    40 years old- family pretends to cut ties with him, but " secretly" funds him, family does extensive business with Bush family (Carlyle Group) while funding osama network (known as Alqueda in western media). Western public media image of Osama emerges that precludes the possibility of such images as above linked image.
    50 years old- 911 happens, Osama demonizes, media ignores close Bush family ties to Osama's funders.
    55 years old- Osama image reaches mythic proportions in Muslim world (an inaccurate view of the man), this image is propagated by who.... (think who is VERY good at propagating false images, and it certainly is not fundamentalist islam).
    this whole thing just aint right, his image is being used as a propaganda tool (and that is why the image i linked is powerful, it flys in the face of the created "Osama".
     
  14. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    Yeah and John Wayne Gacy threw block parties for his friends and neighbors and entertained kids in a clown suit and makeup and had a high level security clearance from the Secret Service before he became infamous.

    Every mass murderer probably had moments of being, or appearing to be, a normal person at one time in their lives.
     
  15. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Yea, I'm not sure I get your..''it doesnt add up'' thing. Bin laden learned everything he knows about terrorism from the CIA, during the war with the USSR. He was a good guy then. We shouldve embraced him more and figured him out. But he was just another raghead then. And now because we dismissed his aptitude then, we cant find the slimy goat lover. What? You dont think our government would do such a thing. We've been using people like that for centuries. Nathan Hale, Tom Horn, several Nazi scientists, Saddam Huessein. All for the greater good bro!
     
  16. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    I think I agree with most of what you say, but it's a given FACT that there were flat headed dutchmen working for the Secret Service during WWII and we all know that Saddam was one of the CIA'a fair haired boys in the early days of his reign. I'm not so sure that Nathan Hale had anything to do with either the Secret Service or the CIA . Interesting that you mentioned Tom Horn, a fine upright gentleman who''s only crime was being hung next door to the jail house in Cheyenne. But lke everything else, the hooded guy they hung wasn't old Tom at all. He finished his years in piece and harmony drinking wine and watching the women in and around Reno Nev. What a guy!
    Thanks for the post Craig, great reading and very interesting.
     
  17. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Nathan Hale was given false information in the hopes he was caught, thus throwing the British in the wrong direction. Poor guy. He did give his one life for his country. But it was planned that way.
     
  18. Danr

    Danr New Member

    but not many have CIA on their resume.
     
  19. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Dude his family (the Bush family's good old friends) support him financially.
     
  20. Jim M

    Jim M New Member

    I believe the car is a Lincoln, not a caddy. Are you sure thats OBL? Looks like the crackpot from American Idol to me.

    Seems somebody is really grasping at straws here. Lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng straws..
     

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