Does McCain stand a chance

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It's called unity of party Moen, something the other side of the aisle doesn't quite understand. I am the one rolling on the floor laffin.....

This is fun

 

Unity of party. An interesting concept, and yes, Hillary is messing it up in the Democratic camp. She won't win no matter how much mud she slings at Obama.

Now I have wondered as long as I have voted why would ANYONE blindly follow a party? If a candidate sucks then the candidate sucks.
But I'm a (name your party) so I'll vote for him/her/current farm animal.

I have voted Republican, Democrat, Independant and tried to declare myself as Whig and Bull Moose in primaries. (They don't allow it but no one can explain why).

Just voting for a party is one of the most ignorant things I could ever imagine doing. Come on, they're politicians and they ALL lie.

Do some real digging then think for yourselves. What a concept that is!

Party voting=bovine mentality.

Sorry if it offends but it's true.

 

Party Unity

To defeat the other side, it is required.

While I may not see eye to eye with McCain on every issue, and actually despise the man personally, he is the candidate the Republicans have chosen to run against the Democrats that I wish to defeat at all costs.

If you have a better idea, tell it. As for now, in order to avoid a Democratic Whitehouse again, the Republicans need to win, no third party candidate has a chance. Therefore, in this case, party unity is a strategy, a united party is a strong party.

I would rather have a McCain in office who has strong military experience and understands the terrorist threat, will appoint constructionist conservative Supreme Court justices, and has promised no new taxes and no national medical policy.

In order to defeat a withdraw/surrender, tax raising, medical socialism platform, wealth redistribution, activist judges, and an open border welfare for all ticket, party unity is required of a strong party, and a well thought out plan for the fierce election and campaign season coming up.

The Democrats are displaying a split so destructive it is hurting the partys chances to maintain control of Congress, regional seats, and governorships, let alone a national Presidential win. THATS what happens when a party is split and not united.

Not bovine at all actually.

Welcome to the forum Clembo !!

 

Over here on this side of the aisle we call you lock-step Republicans. You don't follow a candidate so much as you fall in line behind the old white guy holding the Republican banner. Party unity is just the phrase you use to make yourself feel good.

You're voting for a candidate not because you like him but because you dislike the other side of the aisle so much. I on the other hand, like the candidates on my side and even like McCain somewhat. My only real reservations about McCain are the Republicans aligning themselves with him and the fact that he is picking up the Iraq war torch right where Bush left off. I don't think we need four more years of Bush policies.

A vote for McCain is just saying that you like where Bush has brought this country in the last 8 years, you like his policies on the war, you like the economy, you like the neoconservative movement, you like the assault on the constitution, and everything else Bush as brought us. If that is the case, by all means, vote for McCain. Nothing I can say is going to have any impact on your “thought process” anyway.

 

Exactly Clembo!

There is no point in even discussing the issues with people of this mentality. The issues are unimportant to them. It is the party that matters.

Republicans have the well-earned reputation for this mentality. Hey, it beats actually having to think if you can just throw out slogans that substitute for critical thinking. I will never understand the mentality myself but I also do not have a brain with a slot that says, “Insert sound bite here”.

 

1 in 5 beaten Dems would vote for McCain...

Here is aome shocking news.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200803/POL20080321a.html

Poll: Divisive Dem Contest Could Boost McCain
By Fred Lucas
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
March 21, 2008

(CNSNews.com) - The lengthy Democratic primary contest bodes well for Republican chances of holding the White House, a new poll suggests.

As Democratic Senators Barack Obama of Illinois and Hillary Clinton of New York slug it out for the nomination, many of their supporters -- at least in Pennsylvania, site of the next major primary -- aren't committed to the party's ticket in November, according to a Franklin & Marshall College Poll.

Among Obama supporters, 20 percent said they would vote for Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the Republican nominee, if Clinton beats their candidate for the nomination. Among Clinton supporters, 19 percent said they would support McCain in November if Obama is the Democratic nominee. (See poll)

 

You realy do need to widen your political options from the two party system if you do not want to stagnate int shared terms of party #1 & party #2 It is possible to have a party that can advocate the best from each of the big 2's agendas, all it takes are people with the courage to strike out on there own.

 

There goes Moen again..firing off without thinking.


Sound bite candidates? You mean like " Change" " Yes We Can" " Ready on day one ! "?

My candidate lost, now it is time to unite and conquer the enemy...While the Dems are killing off every last chance they have at winning, by internal sabotage and racism and sexism and a few other ism's

The Republicans are laffin and watchin the circus, and will stand strongly united.

Now Mr Moen, instead of shooting me down with one liners and rehashed talking points....Please advise me, try to change my mind, help me to understand why a candidate other than McCain should be elected??

This is a test....can you without jabbing me and name calling, give some positives and accomplishments, a track record with proven results, ideas that make sense and programs that will work? If you can, I'll vote for anybody, I dislike McCain enormously, it should be easy for you.

 

Well everyone De Orc has shed a lot of light here. You know more than a two party system has been known to actually work in Europe.

This is why I am not a "staunch" Republican or Democrat. Been labeled a Liberal a lot as of late. Big deal perhaps I am.
Perhaps I'm tired of Administrations from both parties that end up having nothing but their own interests at heart.

I voted Independent last election as I didn't trust Kerry and I downright hate Bush, Cheney and company.
Bush's first time I DID vote for him. Thought he'd be good for the country. I was wrong but at least I have the guts to admit it.

You know things weren't so bad five or so years ago for what is considered "middle class". Well, they suck now. There is no middle class. You either have or you don't. Middle class gets by and that's just fine with those not in that category.
Just remember that the middle class workers contribute a lot to this country/world. Without us "low lifes" things would not function.

McCain is all for continuation of the war. Fine, let all of the die hard people that vote for him finance it. I'm going broke.

At this point Republicans may be more united. Won't really argue that but I do believe it will show at the polls. This is when the "I'm just plain sick of it" vote will show up. We are many.

I'm afraid for our future honestly. If things don't change I foresee a lot of strife. I'm not looking for socialism. I would like to be able to afford health care though and currently I can't. At 45 years old and having worked all of my life that just plain sucks.

Put yourself in my shoes (and millions of others) for a moment and see why we don't vote party. ALL politicians lie - I have no doubt about that. Who lies more is what it comes to. Like playing a game and the vast majority of Americans have been losing for quite a while now.

 

Me I never vote party I vote for the policies that are offerd up and I will admit to having voted for the Person as well In the past two Mayrorial elections I voted for Ken Livingston who most call Red Ken LOL but in my opinion he was the right man for the job at that time and he has got London back on a firm footing, this time round I will vote for a Conservative Boris Johnson whos policies I happen to like

 

When it comes to politics I admit that I am totally ignorant but I like to think that my vote helps in some form. I am pretty independent when it comes to elections. I have voted for both parties in the past with the thought that the best candidate was going to be elected based on their qualifications. I was very excited to see who both sides could produce this year.

Originally, I was ready to watch the Dems, rather excited but still not truly favoring. To me, the longer this drags out and the way it is going I agree that I too am starting to lose interest with the Dem parties candidates. To me what started out as a good battle amongst candidates has now turned into nothing more than a shouting match over race and sex, which I think most thought would happen anyways. I am starting to think that many votes will be based on other matters (race, sex) instead of qualifications. I just hope the educated voters prevail in the end.

 

This election to me is like, OK, shoot myself in one foot or both? Hmmm

 

"Now that Ken has straightened things out, I'm voting Tory." Wow! Can't say I've ever heard that before. Well, here's hoping Johnson wins.

 

Ah but you see Ken had better policies at the time than the then Tory candidate, this time round Boris is the guy with the inovative ideas

 

Having more than 2 parties isn't the panacia it seems. It creates a position where very obscure and ardical positions gets over represented. It could work if the elected president had to win by a majority of electorial votes.

Ruben

 

LOL Ruben you want that they should have to have a actual Majority of the votes cast You know thet they will be accusing you of been a radical for thoughts like that

 

Mr Moen, It has been over a week, time for your homework. I gave you an easy assignment. Or is it possible you find it easier to switch threads and spew more hate, blame and anger elsewhere and ignore the idea of thinking for yourself?

Try this, instead of pointing fingers at the other side, tell us something positive about yours !!

Remember, plagerism and cut & paste's will lower your grade !!

 

Instead of me pretending to care about what you think, why don't I just keep ignoring you? I'm in a good place with my anger, how about you?

 

You get a star for honesty about your anger, that is step #1...admitting the problem. Congrats, but you still fail. Now take a chair in the corner and put on the pointy hat and try again.

Here, I'll even start for you:

" I like my party because..........