Aratzio wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, in > alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> > bloviated: > >>On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts >><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: >> >>>mimus wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote: >>>> >>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message >>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org... >>>>> >>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in >>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus >>>>> >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus >>>>> >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus >>>>> >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched >>>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I >>>>> >>>>>am finishing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's >>>>> >>>>>already dark . . . . >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a >>>>> >>>>>glass >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. >>>>> >>>>>dig? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect >>>>> >>>>>an >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>HAH >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds >>>>> >>>>>(8.3 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger) >>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The damn coffee cup. >>>>>> >>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength >>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to >>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work >>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized >>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement. >>>>> >>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else. >>>>> >>>>>Smee >>>> >>>>We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency, >>>>very-long-wavelength photons. >>>> >>>>You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by >>>>firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me. >>>> >>>><snit> >>>> >>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe. >>> >>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation' >>>in any case. >> >>why? will he win a prize? > > Yeah, $3, ya dope. See the FAQ regarding payment of honoraria. -- nuts
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:34:23 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:02:01 -0800, <pscissons@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>"dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message >>news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com... >> >>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched >>the >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I >>am finishing >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's >>already dark . . . . >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone! >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in >>a glass >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. >>dig? >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing? >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature. >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR >>> >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for >>> >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on >>> >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it >>> >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> so, neener. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle >>> >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will >>> >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock, >>> >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells >>soup, >>> >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a >>> >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of >>> >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you >>> >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite >>> >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern >>for >>> >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> nyah!!!!!! >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning. >>> >> >>> >> as well you should. >>> > >>> >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup? >>> >>> not yet. maybe you should write them. >> >>My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't >>find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was >>pretty horrible. They don't make it any more. > > damn They might do a trout-stew. If not, you can probably find some gourmet cat-food and add water. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 Prang-nuts is prang-nuts, right? Whether you find 'em inna woods, or they're dispensed by a autofeeder. < Laumer
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts > <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: > >>mimus wrote: >>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote: >>> >>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message >>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org... >>>> >>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in >>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in >>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>bloviated: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus >>>> >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus >>>> >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus >>>> >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched >>>> >>>>the >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I >>>> >>>>am finishing >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's >>>> >>>>already dark . . . . >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a >>>> >>>>glass >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. >>>> >>>>dig? >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect >>>> >>>>an >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>HAH >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds >>>> >>>>(8.3 >>>> >>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger) >>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it). >>>>>> >>>>>>The damn coffee cup. >>>>> >>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength >>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to >>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work >>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized >>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement. >>>> >>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else. >>>> >>>>Smee >>> >>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency, >>> very-long-wavelength photons. >>> >>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by >>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me. >>> >>> <snit> >>> >>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe. >> >>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation' >>in any case. > > why? will he win a prize? They pay by the syllable, apparently. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 You want a job and a lizard to ride? < _The Einstein Intersection_
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:13:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > >> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts >> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: >> >>>mimus wrote: >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote: >>>> >>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message >>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org... >>>>> >>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in >>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus >>>>> >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus >>>>> >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus >>>>> >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched >>>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I >>>>> >>>>>am finishing >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's >>>>> >>>>>already dark . . . . >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a >>>>> >>>>>glass >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. >>>>> >>>>>dig? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect >>>>> >>>>>an >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>HAH >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds >>>>> >>>>>(8.3 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger) >>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The damn coffee cup. >>>>>> >>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength >>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to >>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work >>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized >>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement. >>>>> >>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else. >>>>> >>>>>Smee >>>> >>>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency, >>>> very-long-wavelength photons. >>>> >>>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by >>>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me. >>>> >>>> <snit> >>>> >>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe. >>> >>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation' >>>in any case. >> >> why? will he win a prize? > >They pay by the syllable, apparently. so, what yer saying is that ~they~ can be beneficial as well as being the source of all evil, right? -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj <This space for rent.>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:10:47 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:34:23 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:02:01 -0800, <pscissons@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>>"dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message >>>news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com... >>> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched >>>the >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I >>>am finishing >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's >>>already dark . . . . >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone! >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in >>>a glass >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. >>>dig? >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing? >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature. >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah. >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR >>>> >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for >>>> >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on >>>> >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it >>>> >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> so, neener. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle >>>> >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will >>>> >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock, >>>> >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells >>>soup, >>>> >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a >>>> >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of >>>> >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you >>>> >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite >>>> >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern >>>for >>>> >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> nyah!!!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning. >>>> >> >>>> >> as well you should. >>>> > >>>> >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup? >>>> >>>> not yet. maybe you should write them. >>> >>>My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't >>>find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was >>>pretty horrible. They don't make it any more. >> >> damn > >They might do a trout-stew. > >If not, you can probably find some gourmet cat-food and add water. thanks. youre so helpful, going out of your way to look up recipes for your omnivorous brethren. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj <This space for rent.>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:46:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:13:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts >>> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: >>> >>>>mimus wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message >>>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org... >>>>>> >>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in >>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus >>>>>> >>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus >>>>>> >>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus >>>>>> >>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched >>>>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I >>>>>> >>>>>>am finishing >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's >>>>>> >>>>>>already dark . . . . >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a >>>>>> >>>>>>glass >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. >>>>>> >>>>>>dig? >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect >>>>>> >>>>>>an >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>HAH >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds >>>>>> >>>>>>(8.3 >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger) >>>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The damn coffee cup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength >>>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to >>>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work >>>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized >>>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else. >>>>>> >>>>>>Smee >>>>> >>>>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency, >>>>> very-long-wavelength photons. >>>>> >>>>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by >>>>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me. >>>>> >>>>> <snit> >>>>> >>>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe. >>>> >>>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation' >>>>in any case. >>> >>> why? will he win a prize? >> >>They pay by the syllable, apparently. > > so, what yer saying is that ~they~ can be beneficial as well as being > the source of all evil, right? They could be if They'd pay up. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 You want a job and a lizard to ride? < _The Einstein Intersection_
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:07:58 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:46:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:13:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts >>>> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: >>>> >>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus >>>>>>> >>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus >>>>>>> >>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus >>>>>>> >>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched >>>>>>> >>>>>>>the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I >>>>>>> >>>>>>>am finishing >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's >>>>>>> >>>>>>>already dark . . . . >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a >>>>>>> >>>>>>>glass >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>dig? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect >>>>>>> >>>>>>>an >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>HAH >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds >>>>>>> >>>>>>>(8.3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger) >>>>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The damn coffee cup. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength >>>>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to >>>>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work >>>>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized >>>>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Smee >>>>>> >>>>>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency, >>>>>> very-long-wavelength photons. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by >>>>>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> <snit> >>>>>> >>>>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe. >>>>> >>>>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation' >>>>>in any case. >>>> >>>> why? will he win a prize? >>> >>>They pay by the syllable, apparently. >> >> so, what yer saying is that ~they~ can be beneficial as well as being >> the source of all evil, right? > >They could be if They'd pay up. imagine. ~they~ have a tardy payables department. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj <This space for rent.>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:36:57 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:07:58 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:46:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:13:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts >>>>> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts >>>>>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>am finishing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>already dark . . . . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>glass >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>dig? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>an >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>HAH >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>(8.3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger) >>>>>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The damn coffee cup. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength >>>>>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to >>>>>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work >>>>>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized >>>>>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Smee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency, >>>>>>> very-long-wavelength photons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by >>>>>>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <snit> >>>>>>> >>>>>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe. >>>>>> >>>>>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation' >>>>>>in any case. >>>>> >>>>> why? will he win a prize? >>>> >>>>They pay by the syllable, apparently. >>> >>> so, what yer saying is that ~they~ can be beneficial as well as being >>> the source of all evil, right? >> >>They could be if They'd pay up. > > imagine. ~they~ have a tardy payables department. They have a standing offer to let you make your case to and hear the legal department laugh at you. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 Everyone hates us. < _Kontroll_