Diurnal Desynchronization/Winter Fugue

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by mimus, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I am finishing
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's already dark . . . .
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a glass
    >>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. dig?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    >>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    >>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    >>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    >>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> so, neener.
    >>>>
    >>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    >>>
    >>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    >>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    >>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    >>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells soup,
    >>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    >>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    >>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    >>>
    >>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    >>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    >>>
    >>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    >>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern for
    >>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    >>>
    >>> nyah!!!!!!
    >>> :p

    >>
    >>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.

    >
    > as well you should.


    Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?

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    mp 10

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  2. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mimus wrote:
    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:19:57 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >>mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:21:20 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched the
    >>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I am finishing
    >>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's already dark . . . .
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a glass
    >>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. dig?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>
    >>>>IF YOU COULD SEE IN THE INFRARED YOU WOULDN'T WASTE TIME LOOKING AT THE
    >>>>COFFEE.
    >>>
    >>><puzzled>
    >>>
    >>>Why not?

    >>
    >>Silicon video cameras have an annoying ability to see the writing on
    >>both sides of the paper unless you use a blocking filter. Cotton and
    >>rayon are quite the same as paper in the near infrared (0.7..1.0 um).
    >>It gets worse as one moves out past 3 um. There's windows so to speak.

    >
    > I thought of that but then thought that only a total perv would even be
    > thinking of that.
    >
    > Set to "non-silk bands", eh?
    >

    You can buy a Mercedes with a fog-penetrating IR camera with which lives
    can be saved. Plus 'agents' and their 'agencies' protect us with such
    technology every day and don't even ask for a grateful thank-you.

    --
    nuts
     
  3. On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I am finishing
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's already dark . . . .
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a glass
    >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. dig?
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> so, neener.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    >>>>
    >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells soup,
    >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    >>>>
    >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    >>>>
    >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern for
    >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    >>>>
    >>>> nyah!!!!!!
    >>>> :p
    >>>
    >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.

    >>
    >> as well you should.

    >
    >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?


    not yet. maybe you should write them.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  4. On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:27:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:19:57 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >> mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:21:20 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched the
    >>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I am finishing
    >>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's already dark . . . .
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a glass
    >>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. dig?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>
    >>>>IF YOU COULD SEE IN THE INFRARED YOU WOULDN'T WASTE TIME LOOKING AT THE
    >>>>COFFEE.
    >>>
    >>> <puzzled>
    >>>
    >>> Why not?

    >>
    >> Silicon video cameras have an annoying ability to see the writing on
    >> both sides of the paper unless you use a blocking filter. Cotton and
    >> rayon are quite the same as paper in the near infrared (0.7..1.0 um).
    >> It gets worse as one moves out past 3 um. There's windows so to speak.

    >
    >I thought of that but then thought that only a total perv would even be
    >thinking of that.
    >
    >Set to "non-silk bands", eh?


    /me is a total perv

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  5. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:50:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I am finishing
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's already dark . . . .
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a glass
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. dig?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    >>>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    >>>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    >>>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    >>>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> so, neener.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    >>>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    >>>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    >>>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells soup,
    >>>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    >>>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    >>>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    >>>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    >>>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern for
    >>>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> nyah!!!!!!
    >>>>> :p
    >>>>
    >>>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.
    >>>
    >>> as well you should.

    >>
    >>Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?

    >
    > not yet. maybe you should write them.


    Hmm . . . the beans . . . some sort of heavy stock . . . _carob_ stock . . . .

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    mp 10

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  6. "dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
    news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >
    > >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>> wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>> wrote:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched

    the
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I

    am finishing
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    already dark . . . .
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in

    a glass
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    dig?
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    > >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    > >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    > >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    > >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> so, neener.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    > >>>>
    > >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    > >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    > >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    > >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells

    soup,
    > >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    > >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    > >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    > >>>>
    > >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    > >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    > >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern

    for
    > >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> nyah!!!!!!
    > >>>> :p
    > >>>
    > >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.
    > >>
    > >> as well you should.

    > >
    > >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?

    >
    > not yet. maybe you should write them.


    My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't
    find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was
    pretty horrible. They don't make it any more.

    Smee

    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >
    > <This space for rent.>
     
  7. "mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    > Aratzio wrote:
    > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    > > alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    > > <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    > >
    > >>Aratzio wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    > >>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    > >>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    > >>>
    > >>>>mimus wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    > >>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>bloviated:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched

    the
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I

    am finishing
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    already dark . . . .
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a

    glass
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    dig?
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect

    an
    > >>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>HAH
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds

    (8.3
    > >>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    > >>>
    > >>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    > >>
    > >>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    > >>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).

    > >
    > > The damn coffee cup.

    >
    > Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    > of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    > radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    > nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    > refrigerator to perform the measurement.


    Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.

    Smee

    >
    > --
    > nuts
     
  8. "dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
    news:9ha7s3ljae8v0f8ndnn2boc8g52obf2fj4@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:27:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:19:57 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    > >
    > >> mimus wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:21:20 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>>mimus wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched the
    > >>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I am

    finishing
    > >>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's already

    dark . . . .
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a

    glass
    > >>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light. dig?
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>IF YOU COULD SEE IN THE INFRARED YOU WOULDN'T WASTE TIME LOOKING AT

    THE
    > >>>>COFFEE.
    > >>>
    > >>> <puzzled>
    > >>>
    > >>> Why not?
    > >>
    > >> Silicon video cameras have an annoying ability to see the writing on
    > >> both sides of the paper unless you use a blocking filter. Cotton and
    > >> rayon are quite the same as paper in the near infrared (0.7..1.0 um).
    > >> It gets worse as one moves out past 3 um. There's windows so to speak.

    > >
    > >I thought of that but then thought that only a total perv would even be
    > >thinking of that.
    > >
    > >Set to "non-silk bands", eh?

    >
    > /me is a total perv


    /we already know that.

    Smee

    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >
    > <This space for rent.>
     
  9. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:02:01 -0800, pscissons wrote:

    > "dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
    > news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com...
    >
    >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus

    > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched

    > the
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I

    > am finishing
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    > already dark . . . .
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in

    > a glass
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    > dig?
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >> >>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >> >>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >> >>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >> >>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    >> >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    >> >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    >> >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    >> >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> so, neener.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    >> >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    >> >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    >> >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells

    > soup,
    >> >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    >> >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    >> >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    >> >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    >> >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern

    > for
    >> >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> nyah!!!!!!
    >> >>>> :p
    >> >>>
    >> >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.
    >> >>
    >> >> as well you should.
    >> >
    >> >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?

    >>
    >> not yet. maybe you should write them.

    >
    > My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't
    > find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was
    > pretty horrible. They don't make it any more.
    >
    > Smee


    "MmMM-mmMM-*gag*"
    "CUT!"

    Did he ever ask for sheep soup again?

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    I'll tell you what I hate, though. I hate those
    commercials where you have to eat something.

    < _Thirty Seconds_
     
  10. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:

    >
    > "mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    > news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >> Aratzio wrote:
    >> > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >> > alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >> > <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >> >
    >> >>Aratzio wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >> >>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >> >>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>>mimus wrote:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >> >>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>bloviated:
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched

    > the
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I

    > am finishing
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    > already dark . . . .
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a

    > glass
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    > dig?
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >> >>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >> >>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >> >>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >> >>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect

    > an
    >> >>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>HAH
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds

    > (8.3
    >> >>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >> >>>
    >> >>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >> >>
    >> >>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >> >>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >> >
    >> > The damn coffee cup.

    >>
    >> Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >> of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >> radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >> nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >> refrigerator to perform the measurement.

    >
    > Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >
    > Smee


    We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    very-long-wavelength photons.

    You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.

    <snit>

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    Igorth do not "tetht the printhiple". Thtrap it
    to the bench and put a good thick bolt of lightning,
    that'th our motto.

    < _Thief of Time_
     
  11. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mimus wrote:
    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >
    >>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>
    >>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    >>
    >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    >>
    >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    >>
    >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched

    >>
    >>the
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I

    >>
    >>am finishing
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    >>
    >>already dark . . . .
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a

    >>
    >>glass
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    >>
    >>dig?
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect

    >>
    >>an
    >>
    >>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds

    >>
    >>(8.3
    >>
    >>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>
    >>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>
    >>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.

    >>
    >>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>
    >>Smee

    >
    > We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    > very-long-wavelength photons.
    >
    > You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    > firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >
    > <snit>
    >

    "Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.

    You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    in any case.

    --
    nuts
     
  12. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

    > mimus wrote:
    >
    >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>
    >>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>
    >>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>
    >>>the
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>
    >>>am finishing
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>
    >>>already dark . . . .
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>
    >>>glass
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>
    >>>dig?
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>
    >>>an
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>
    >>>(8.3
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>
    >>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>
    >>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>
    >>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>
    >>>Smee

    >>
    >> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >> very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>
    >> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>
    >> <snit>
    >>

    > "Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.


    Ick.

    > You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    > in any case.


    I just ran into Cherenkov radiation, which is a proper hair-raiser, it is.

    Apparently when you go faster than the speed of light you glow blue.

    (There's experiments to prove it.)

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    I wonder what I have been up to.

    < _Beyond Apollo_
     
  13. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mimus wrote:
    > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >>mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>
    >>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>>
    >>>>the
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>>
    >>>>am finishing
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>>
    >>>>already dark . . . .
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>>
    >>>>glass
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>>
    >>>>dig?
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>>an
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>>
    >>>>(8.3
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>>
    >>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>>
    >>>>Smee
    >>>
    >>>We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >>>very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>>
    >>>You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >>>firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>>
    >>><snit>
    >>>

    >>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.

    >
    > Ick.
    >
    >>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >>in any case.

    >
    > I just ran into Cherenkov radiation, which is a proper hair-raiser, it is.
    >
    > Apparently when you go faster than the speed of light you glow blue.
    >
    > (There's experiments to prove it.)
    >

    Just so long as you slow down to sub-light speed in the more refractive
    medium by dumping energy you won't get a ticket. Fizix cops don't care
    if you were speeding before just so long as they see the 'dust' fly
    as you cross the border. Particles obey the law.

    --
    nuts
     
  14. "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:wfGdnSOTgPgnxFnanZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@giganews.com...
    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:02:01 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >
    > > "dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
    > > news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com...
    > >
    > >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> >> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> >>>> wrote:
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> >>>>>> wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus

    > > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    > > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    > > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    > > <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon--

    watched
    > > the
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn*

    here I
    > > am finishing
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    > > already dark . . . .
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it

    in
    > > a glass
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    > > dig?
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    > >> >>>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    > >> >>>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    > >> >>>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    > >> >>>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    > >> >>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    > >> >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    > >> >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use

    on
    > >> >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as

    it
    > >> >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    > >> >>>>>>
    > >> >>>>>> so, neener.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the

    handle
    > >> >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it

    will
    > >> >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a

    rock,
    > >> >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells

    > > soup,
    > >> >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    > >> >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full

    of
    > >> >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view,

    you
    > >> >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am

    quite
    > >> >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern

    > > for
    > >> >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> nyah!!!!!!
    > >> >>>> :p
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> as well you should.
    > >> >
    > >> >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?
    > >>
    > >> not yet. maybe you should write them.

    > >
    > > My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't
    > > find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was
    > > pretty horrible. They don't make it any more.
    > >
    > > Smee

    >
    > "MmMM-mmMM-*gag*"
    > "CUT!"
    >
    > Did he ever ask for sheep soup again?


    Nope, never again.

    Smee

    >
    > --
    > tinmimus99@hotmail.com
    >
    > smeeter 11 or maybe 12
    >
    > mp 10
    >
    > mhm 29x13
    >
    > I'll tell you what I hate, though. I hate those
    > commercials where you have to eat something.
    >
    > < _Thirty Seconds_
    >
     
  15. "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bJCdndwh84_b8VnanZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com...
    > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    > > mimus wrote:
    > >
    > >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    > >>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    > >>>
    > >>>>Aratzio wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    > >>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    > >>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    > >>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    > >>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    > >>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus

    <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    > >>>
    > >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    > >>>
    > >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    > >>>
    > >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon--

    watched
    > >>>
    > >>>the
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn*

    here I
    > >>>
    > >>>am finishing
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    > >>>
    > >>>already dark . . . .
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it

    in a
    > >>>
    > >>>glass
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    > >>>
    > >>>dig?
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    > >>>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to

    detect
    > >>>
    > >>>an
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>HAH
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7

    seconds
    > >>>
    > >>>(8.3
    > >>>
    > >>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    > >>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or

    larger)
    > >>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    > >>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    > >>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    > >>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    > >>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    > >>>
    > >>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    > >>>
    > >>>Smee
    > >>
    > >> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    > >> very-long-wavelength photons.
    > >>
    > >> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth

    by
    > >> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    > >>
    > >> <snit>
    > >>

    > > "Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.

    >
    > Ick.
    >
    > > You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    > > in any case.

    >
    > I just ran into Cherenkov radiation, which is a proper hair-raiser, it is.
    >
    > Apparently when you go faster than the speed of light you glow blue.
    >
    > (There's experiments to prove it.)


    Oh cool! So when we develop ftl space drives, we'll all glow blue? Is it
    permanent? So would we be able to perceive the blue glow ourselves, or would
    it only be apparent to an observer?

    Smee

    >
    > --
    > tinmimus99@hotmail.com
    >
    > smeeter 11 or maybe 12
    >
    > mp 10
    >
    > mhm 29x13
    >
    > I wonder what I have been up to.
    >
    > < _Beyond Apollo_
    >
    >
     
  16. On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:02:01 -0800, <pscissons@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    >
    >"dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
    >news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com...
    >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus

    ><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    ><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    ><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    ><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched

    >the
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I

    >am finishing
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    >already dark . . . .
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in

    >a glass
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    >dig?
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >> >>>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >> >>>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >> >>>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >> >>>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    >> >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    >> >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    >> >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    >> >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> so, neener.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    >> >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    >> >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    >> >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells

    >soup,
    >> >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    >> >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    >> >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    >> >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    >> >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern

    >for
    >> >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> nyah!!!!!!
    >> >>>> :p
    >> >>>
    >> >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.
    >> >>
    >> >> as well you should.
    >> >
    >> >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?

    >>
    >> not yet. maybe you should write them.

    >
    >My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't
    >find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was
    >pretty horrible. They don't make it any more.


    damn

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  17. On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:26:09 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:02:01 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >
    >> "dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
    >> news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com...
    >>
    >>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >> wrote:
    >>> >>
    >>> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>
    >>> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus

    >> <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    >> <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    >> <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    >> <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched

    >> the
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I

    >> am finishing
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    >> already dark . . . .
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in

    >> a glass
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    >> dig?
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>> >>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>> >>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>> >>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>> >>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    >>> >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    >>> >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    >>> >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    >>> >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    >>> >>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>> so, neener.
    >>> >>>>>
    >>> >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    >>> >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    >>> >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    >>> >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells

    >> soup,
    >>> >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    >>> >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    >>> >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    >>> >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    >>> >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern

    >> for
    >>> >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>> nyah!!!!!!
    >>> >>>> :p
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.
    >>> >>
    >>> >> as well you should.
    >>> >
    >>> >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?
    >>>
    >>> not yet. maybe you should write them.

    >>
    >> My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't
    >> find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was
    >> pretty horrible. They don't make it any more.
    >>
    >> Smee

    >
    >"MmMM-mmMM-*gag*"
    >"CUT!"
    >
    >Did he ever ask for sheep soup again?


    i wouldnt mind a side of mutton. you can keep the fur, though.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  18. On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts
    <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:

    >mimus wrote:
    >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>
    >>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>
    >>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>
    >>>the
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>
    >>>am finishing
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>
    >>>already dark . . . .
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>
    >>>glass
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>
    >>>dig?
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>
    >>>an
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>
    >>>(8.3
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>
    >>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>
    >>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>
    >>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>
    >>>Smee

    >>
    >> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >> very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>
    >> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>
    >> <snit>
    >>

    >"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.
    >
    >You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >in any case.


    why? will he win a prize?

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  19. On Feb 27, 2:15 am, <psciss...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    > "mimus" <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:bJCdndwh84_b8VnanZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >
    > > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

    >
    > > > mimus wrote:

    >
    > > >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:

    >
    > > >>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitti...@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    > > >>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...

    >
    > > >>>>Aratzio wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    > > >>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    > > >>>>><melopsitti...@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:

    >
    > > >>>>>>Aratzio wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    > > >>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    > > >>>>>>><melopsitti...@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>mimus wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    > > >>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus

    >
    > <tinmimu...@hotmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus

    >
    > <tinmimu...@hotmail.com>
    >
    >
    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    >
    > > >>><tinmimu...@hotmail.com>

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    >
    > > >>><tinmimu...@hotmail.com>

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    >
    > > >>><tinmimu...@hotmail.com>

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon--

    > watched
    >
    > > >>>the

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn*

    > here I
    >
    > > >>>am finishing

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    >
    > > >>>already dark . . . .

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it

    > in a
    >
    > > >>>glass

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    >
    > > >>>dig?

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to

    > detect
    >
    > > >>>an

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>>HAH

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7

    > seconds
    >
    > > >>>(8.3

    >
    > > >>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.

    >
    > > >>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?

    >
    > > >>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or

    > larger)
    > > >>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).

    >
    > > >>>>>The damn coffee cup.

    >
    > > >>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    > > >>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    > > >>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    > > >>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    > > >>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.

    >
    > > >>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.

    >
    > > >>>Smee

    >
    > > >> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    > > >> very-long-wavelength photons.

    >
    > > >> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth

    > by
    > > >> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.

    >
    > > >> <snit>

    >
    > > > "Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.

    >
    > > Ick.

    >
    > > > You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    > > > in any case.

    >
    > > I just ran into Cherenkov radiation, which is a proper hair-raiser, it is.

    >
    > > Apparently when you go faster than the speed of light you glow blue.

    >
    > > (There's experiments to prove it.)

    >
    > Oh cool! So when we develop ftl space drives,



    Fruit of The Loom?


    > we'll all glow blue? Is it
    > permanent? So would we be able to perceive the blue glow ourselves, or would
    > it only be apparent to an observer?
    >
    > Smee
    >
    >

    --
    Slipped Moebius
    mhm28x9
     
  20. Aratzio

    Aratzio Guest

    On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, in
    alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
    bloviated:

    >On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts
    ><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
    >
    >>mimus wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>
    >>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>>
    >>>>the
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>>
    >>>>am finishing
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>>
    >>>>already dark . . . .
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>>
    >>>>glass
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>>
    >>>>dig?
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>>
    >>>>an
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>>
    >>>>(8.3
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>>
    >>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>>
    >>>>Smee
    >>>
    >>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >>> very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>>
    >>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>>
    >>> <snit>
    >>>

    >>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.
    >>
    >>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >>in any case.

    >
    >why? will he win a prize?


    Yeah, $3, ya dope.
     

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