Did Beck get his 100,000 ?

Hey Jack! You and I obviously have different points of view but I always appreciate your civility, your maturity, and your honest responses. I find those qualities rare in this forum and you should be the model for the rest of us. Thanks!

I will try to address anything with a question mark but I realize some questions may simply be rhetorical in nature.

Hope that helps.

 

I know how fixated on the crowd size you guys are and that you'll believe any estimate that goes higher and higher so I thought that I'd take the word of the people that actually had aerial views of the event not those that simply think the more people that attend, the "righter" they must be.

Glenn Beck Rally Attracts Estimated 87,000

An estimated 87,000 people attended a rally organized by talk-radio host and Fox News commentator Glenn Beck Saturday in Washington, according to a crowd estimate commissioned by CBS News.
The company AirPhotosLive.com based the attendance on aerial pictures it took over the rally, which stretched from in front of the Lincoln Memorial along the Reflecting Pool to the Washington Monument. Beck and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin spoke at the rally.
Beck, who predicted that at least 100,000 people would show up, opened his comments with a joke: "I have just gotten word from the media that there is over 1,000 people here today."
The area around the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool in Washington during a rally organized by conservative commentator Glenn Beck is seen in this aerial picture taken Aug. 28, 2010.
AirPhotosLive.com gave its estimate a margin of error of 9,000, meaning between 78,000 and 96,000 people attended the rally. The photos used to make the estimate were taken at noon Saturday, which is when the company estimated was the rally's high point.
Rally organizers had a permit for crowd of 300,000. Crowd estimates used to be provided by the National Park Service, but the agency stopped counting crowds in 1997 after being accused of underestimating the size of the Million Man March in 1995.

 

The only coverage I have been able to catch was on NBC this morning.
The reporters not-so-subtley referred to Beck with various negative labels throughout the piece and made derogatory statements against him yet Sharpton was routinely referred to as "reverend" and "civil rights leader". Funny how a Sharpton clip was shown where he said "this is our day" (meaning white people can't claim anything relating to MLK) and no one has much to say.
When I was growing up my parents read to my brother & me books about & speeches from MLK...did we overstep any boundaries?

 

Maybe you should visit the mathematics department as you waltz down the esteemed halls of academia. First “the 28th anniversary’ of MLK I have a dream speech would have taken place 8-28-91. Second 87,000 people. We know where you get your news, CBS……..or may I say cellar dwellers. No wonder they are shrinking into obscurity. CBS just tied a all time low ratings week….and with whom did they tie……well CBS news. Funny thing I found while researching this. In October 2006 Katie Couric’s ratings briefly skyrocket with an appearance from Rush Limbaugh in a "free speech" segment. Putting Limbaugh on CBS air in a "free speech" segment certainly pumped Couric's ratings for a moment.
CBS tried to demonstrate that they were free of liberal bias by giving ol' Rush a few seconds of airtime. Maybe CBS should should invite Rush back and bring ol’ Glenn along to help pull them out of the abyss.

BTW, they were probably more minorities at Beck's rally, than Sharpton's due to the wide disparity of people.

 

nope!
I saw all that BS while I was looking for the facts.

 

Lets look at history......
MLK, on his I have Dream spech day, not any historical celebration or rally, filled the Reflecting Pool area of the mall full to capacity. History tels us that was 200,000/250,000 people, and has never been discredited.

Beck filled that.
Beck also filed the field next to it, much larger, and behind that all the way to the Washington Monument and into the streets...

I really dont care about an official count. that fact is he blew the doors off of his 100,000 goal. AP and NYTimes reported " tens of thousands " and the CBS count is as low as their ratings.

Now, about Sharpton

There were numerous clips on tv all day Sunday , and I'll paraphrase, with Sharpton stating:

" " They " have the mall, " We " have the message "

MLK's mesage was Content of Charachter, not color of skin.........

Hey Al, who is " we " and who is " they "......
Was Becks crowd folks with bad charachter or white skin ?
Was your crowd folks with good charchter or folks with black skin?

 

Would you mind explaining just what you fetish is with us "old and white" guys? Are we not supposed to count or so we just count less than your friends - whatever they may be?

And, if Restoring Honor, Faith, Hope and Charity is racist, just what on earth is your rantings about "old white people".

 

I just wish that someone could tell me what 100,000, or 500,000, or 1 million means. Is there some threshold that has some significance that I'm missing? What is that threshold and why? Lets put aside the demographics of the crowd for a moment and think about raw numbers. Why does the number of people that were there matter? I think that if you spend a year advertising something and promoting the event on a national network, you're going to get at least some participants but what I don't understand is what the significance of the crowd size is. I was at the Taste of Chicago a couple of summers ago and I was in a crowd of over a million people. What should I have read into that? People like food in the streets of Chicago? O.K.

Somebody tell me what the number is inferring and why?

 

Wow. My parents only read books to me and my brother like,'The Red Pony' and 'Black Beauty'. Looking back, they are books of color.

 

Moen1305, I guess you missed this post. I am still looking for an answer

Would you mind explaining just what you fetish is with us "old and white" guys? Are we not supposed to count or so we just count less than your friends - whatever they may be?

And, if Restoring Honor, Faith, Hope and Charity is racist, just what on earth is your rantings about "old white people"?

 

Are you for real? Numbers would represent the amount of people interested in or agree with the person holding the event. If only four 'old white people' waving confederate flags, were in attendance I am sure you would be giddy in the fact that no one cared what Beck had to say. I didnt watch any of the ''Pretense of Hope.'' show. I didnt watch Sharpton's 'I'm black, not him!' crap either.

 

So what you are saying is that it is in the best interest of those promoting the event to exaggerate the number of attendees while those that disagree with the message being promoted might want to underestimmate the crowd size for their own reasons. After all, there is a qualitative difference between 78,000 and 300,000 that directly correlates to just how right you are....Right? And there has never been examples from history where large crowds of people have promoted an ideal only to have that ideal swept up into the dust bin of history? Can't think of one...Oh wait!

 

Ah! I get it. You are avoiding me and answering a question you do not like.

Would you mind explaining just what you fetish is with us "old and white" guys? Are we not supposed to count or so we just count less than your friends - whatever they may be?

And, if Restoring Honor, Faith, Hope and Charity is racist, just what on earth is your rantings about "old white people"?

 

You know when someone is surrendering the debate when they pull out the Nazi card!

 

We had a story on our local news about a group from an African American church that was heading to DC for the Sharpton thing but decided on the way that Beck's rally was the most relevant- "unifying" rather than "devisive" is what they called it. Some of those folks (about 120) commented on just how many people of color were in attendance and if the crowd didn't look to be diverse then it was just a result of some self-serving photography. I wasn't there but I'll take the word of those who were in this case.

 

Yes. Thats what I'm saying. Instead of saying exactly that, I said something else, but you interpeted it as me saying that. I said the amount of people in a crowd represents the popularity of the speaker. Is that not true? And Hitler was very popular

 

Exactly! Hilter was very popular. How'd that work out? Popularity has to mean something in the end. My question is, What does Beck's popularity mean in the end? You seem content to be affiliated or aligned with it so please tell me where Beck's vague pretty sounding words are going. I really have no idea because he is just a little lacking in specifics. I'm guessing you have no idea either.

 

Mr. Moen,
I guess I hit a nerve. Still waiting for an answer.

Would you mind explaining just what you fetish is with us "old and white" guys? Are we not supposed to count or so we just count less than your friends - whatever they may be?

And, if Restoring Honor, Faith, Hope and Charity is racist, just what on earth is your rantings about "old white people"?

 

It seems to me that you are being very critical of Beck even though under your own admission, you don't fully understand his message. If Beck was a liberal, I am sure you would investigate further but since he is a conservative there is no harm in bashing him, right!

 

Not exactly. I have no respect for him because I have heard his message. If there was a liberal out there that was just as vacuous and self-promoting as Beck, I'd be just as critical of them as well. For instance, Can't stand Norman Goldman Senior legal adviser on liberal talk radio.

Beck lives or dies by his own mouth and he will tell you that he has a big fat mouth and I do agree with him. He's making millions off of pandering to right wing suckers. I kind of envy that except for all the harm he does along the way.