Dems and Repos UNITE !!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by arizonaJack, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    The " normal " Dems and Repos, the libs, the moderates and the conservatives must unite. That is most of us. I can think of one ( NOT DanR ) who is one of these "s/m/c/r" types.

    America is being 'taken " from within, just like Stalin said.

    America has allowed itself to slip into a "socialist/marxist/communist/radical" sleep. IF you don;t wake up, it may be too late.

    Getting us all to bicker and war against each other allows them to infiltrate even more. Dont fall for distractions. ALL of our freedoms are at stake.

    I am not quite sure the depth of this.

    Unless you are a SOOOO FAR LEFTY RADICAL who is in on this, you must wake up.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I firmly believe it is Obama (and his regime) who is "taking us from within". I've said it for as long as I've been a member here and every move he makes just reinforces that even more. I don't believe we can "unite" with the Obahbahbahma followers but since the numbers are dwindling quickly there are more and more people, every day, willing to listen.
    I've endured the "paranoid" taunts but it becomes more obvious everytime the guy acts that the paranoia is coming home to roost (to borrow a line from one of Obama's opinon makers).
     
  3. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Joe McCarthy would be proud of you guys. Who would allow this to happen? And how would they allow it? How would the military react. That I think is important because you would surely need the military to maintain that agenda.
     
  4. Danr

    Danr New Member

    It is like a pendulum it swings right to left. Bush was so far right that we are swinging to the the left now. Still though Obama is way closer to the center than Bush was. All of that said this wall Street gang (Geitner) are the main thing bugging me about the Obama admin, they are the real danger.
     
  5. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    I am not even sure Obama is in charge. I feel he is a puppet.

    I am finding things out about W that are creepy to say the least.

    We have in the Whitehouse self proclaimed communists, folks who praise the Chavez take over and how we should make our media like his, a bill allowing the POTUS to seize control of the internet at his discresion, congresspersons praising Castro, it is mind boggeling. Yet, the paranoia word is used. WOW.

    over 30 czars with no congressional hearings or oversite
    an intentional destruction of our economy
    nationally owned banks
    nationally owned industry
    national healthcare in the agenda
    media censorship in the works

    I am paranoid?

    Did you dems vote for this? Or were you tricked..........
     
  6. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    So what is the big deal over this? from what I can gather they are in fact Presidential Advisers and Assistants. Sure they will have the ear of the President in some matters and not in others but what is different about these guy's to those who have served previouse Presidents?

    Lets just look at some of them
    Paul Volcker Head of the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board
    This guy has been Chairman of the Federal Reserve under Presidents Carter and Reagan, he became chairman of the prominent New York investment banking firm, J. Rothschild, Wolfensohn & Co. He is a economist of some note so is he a bad choice?

    Or how about
    Dennis Ross Persian Gulf Czar
    American diplomat and author. He has served as the Director of Policy Planning in the State Department under President G. H. W. Bush, the special Middle East coordinator under President Bill Clinton, and chair of the Jerusalem-based think tank, the Jewish People Policy Planning Institute
    Whats wrong with him?

    Then we have
    John Brennan Terrorism Czar!! He had the same job under President Bush from 2004 so whats the big deal with him

    And if you check out the numbers GW had 34 of them LOL and 45 appointees :D
     
  7. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    LMAO !!!
    Thanks Steve, ya almost got me there.

    :rolleyes:

    You sly devil, trying the old bait them trick are ya?;)

    LMAO

    You scare me to death. :eek:
     
  8. Danr

    Danr New Member

    A lot of that comes from the extreme right wing, most (but not all) of that is not mainstream at all. The bank thing is the only real concern there.
     
  9. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    You know what I like about you DanR? You are honest with yourself. YOu, like me like to throw out and see what stick just for fun, BUT, I will be serious here.

    Reagan and the Bushes, as far as I know, never appointed known and self proclaimed communists to a Czar position. Czars are cool, as long as they are FOR America and the Constitution.

    I will back up my claims with video and text. It is there. Not a word from Alex Jones.

    I will back up my posts with the people speaking in camera and in their own words.......This will take an effort, I do not have the time now. A congresswoman praising Castro and his ways, a Czar pointing out what went wrong with the Chaves regime takeover, and what we need to do here to prevent the problems that Chaves had, a Czar that names his child in honor of
    Che Guevera, congreswoman stating that " this socialist is about taking over your companies " ( Sheila Jackson Lee, the dumbest person ever elected to anything in the history of our nation ) . It goes on and on. This is endless.

    I do suspect that the sources will be attacked, rather than the issues, as I will present facts. Thats the way I play the game folks.
     
  10. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Reagan started it with the "drug czar". That war on drugs turned out to be a much worse thing than anything i see from the Obama admin. I mean locking up pot heads, come on.
     
  11. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    I have to crash guys, This has been a great discussion. I look forward to more.

    Work sucks. I have to be there at 6 am AZ time. See ya's.
     
  12. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    It is a good thread.

    Threads like this show me so much in conjunction with other threads.
     
  13. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    OK seriouse question now guy's which of his appointees do you actualy have problems with? the 3, I named earlier I guess pass muster as no one commented on them, so lets name names out of the 31 he has so far picked who is a NO-NO with a short reason please :D
    I can understand the dislike of the guy with communist leanings as I would feel the same but to slate them all ad hock to me shows a true lack of maturity :p
     
  14. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member


    I did not slate them all. Do NOT attempt to paint me that way.
     
  15. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Did I mention you Jack :eek: Dont think I mentioned any one now did I :D but it looks like I hit a nerve though :p
     
  16. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Any time a leader begins the unprecedented process of appointing people to powerful positions one must question the motives. Our system of 3 branch government is designed to provide checks & balances...Obama appointing czars at his pleasure circumvents the US political system. These people are accountible only to Obama...they report only to Obama...they serve at the whim of Obama...they push his agenda. They won't have to answer to the people for any policy or decision they make. Is that the way it is supposed to be?
     
  17. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary


    I said, back during the primaries, that it was Ted Kennedy who was calling the shots for this group. Now that he is gone, the wheels seem to be falling of the Obama Machine. Support for Healthcare reform is waning, the "nuclear option" is gone until another liberal is appointed to take his seat & Obama is resorting to pandering and campaigning to our school kids.
    I also see that none of the dem/libs saw fit to answer Jack's question.
     
  18. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    And who exactly were those apointed by previouse administrations responsible to David?

    Franklin D Roosevelt 10
    Harry S Truman 6
    Dwight Eisenhower 1
    John F. Kennedy 1
    Lyndon B. Johnson 2
    Richard Nixon 2
    Gerald Ford 2
    Jimmy Carter 2
    Ronald Reagan 1
    George H. W. Bush 2
    Bill Clinton 7
    George W. Bush 35
    Barack Obama 32+

    I did not hear this outcry from you over the number President Bush appointed?
     
  19. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    The outcry is not the czars , it is who the czars are and what they believe in. Communism, Socialism, Marxism, global government etc etc. In other words, folks that could never be in a real cabinet because they could not pass the Senate Confirmation process. I should have worded my post differently.

    Run this one thru your google Steve, Mark Loyd....communication czar. Seems he thinks we need to shut down private radio and television and be more like Venezuala, you know, state run and comtrolled media. He just loves that Chaves guy.

    You don't find that scary? there are more, but I do not wish to overload you.
     
  20. Danr

    Danr New Member

    ah..hum, Reagan started that.

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