Whats that to mean? Are you saying those two are like peas in a pod? Anyone that posts another's opinion and says...''Here, this is what I think.'', is not thinking on their own. Even when(though) I'm wrong, at least its my own opinion.
Maybe you both could work on finding an instance of an Administration individual "self-describing" themselves as either a Socialist or a Communist. I've been waiting for 2 pages now.
It didnt play. But thanks for showing it. So Moen, what do you think of that? Those other two clips dont mean much to me. I dont know who that guy is. And I dont think he made policy.
Hey I looked that clip up. He doesnt mention socialism or that he is a socialist in that whole 5min video. So I guess you are the one who is full of baloney. Now I have to question why that clip of van whatever is a video of the interview. It must be available. And this Anita woman didnt say anything that made me think she was a communist. She said she liked Mao. So what? How could one not admire Lenin for taking down a monarchy and establishing a new form of government. Maybe if the Czar thought more about his subjects there wouldnt have been a revolution. All she said was ''Fight your own battles''. So what. You are full of baloney twice.
The first video would not play. I can tell you without seeing it that Obama did not say, "I am a Communist", or, "I am a Socialist". It's just hard to say someone is "self-described" without being able to prove they actual ever self-described any such thing. In the other two montages, neither person at issue ever said "I am a Communist" or, "I am A Socialist" either. Again the definition of self-described has yet to be proven here. "In case you are also uninformed about the history of this country, there have not been many administrations self described as socialist until the present one." ~rlm
Yeah I saw. Or rather didnt see anything that would be construed as ''I'm a socialist'' or ''I'm a communists.'' And again with Glenn Beck on the last clip. Jeez.
Mr Moen, I denounce racism period. I could easily post links of far lefty black racists as well, but I do not include all leftys in that group. Both sides have them. the Tea Party is far from racist as a whole, as is the Democrat party and the Republican party. But , getting you to use the rascist card was prize, thank you. Want to se a clip of a BO friend stating that he wants to kill " cracker babies ", I doubt it.
I never called you or anyone else here a racist. I don't even know what you mean by playing the racist card in the context of this conversation. All I said was that if you believe that all the protesters are a bunch of Socialists and Communists based on a couple of college kids that showed up and think they are the real deal, then you have to believe that the Tea Party protesters are all racists based on the number of racist signs at their rally's. It is exactly the same logic you are using so why not tell us where you make the distinction. How can one group be all Communists and Socialist and the other group not also be all racists? Did you even bother to go to this Tea Party link? http://cowboys-and-tea-parties.blogspot.com/2011/03/best-dog-in-world-not-for-sale-says.html You are losing major amounts of credibility following this line of nonsense. If you've decided to devolve into just another Right wing nut job, just say so and I'll stop taking you seriously.
I did visit the link and found it so hilarious I actually posted the picture on my facebook wall. StuJoe can confirm, as can DeOrc....( it can be found in my wall photos, I did this a few weeks back ) Part of comedy is being able to laugh at ourselves, and dark humor in light doses can be tolereted. I never said all Democrats or leftys were socialists or comunists, please see the title of this thread. There are hundreds of socialists videos marching, demonstrating, etc etc on USA soil and lefty events all over youtube......not just a cpl stoopid kids. ( That sentance was reason for the edit ) An Idea for you, if you are so bothered by this thread. I, as a Tea Party kinda guy, will endorse my party. I willl denounce socialism. I wil defend my position and not hide from it. I will tel you why I feel this way. You have stated you would like to see more socialism. Defend it. Tell us Why you like it and why you want more. Tell us why your #1 fav political person, that you agree with 100% of what he says, Bernie Sanders, a self proclaimed Socialist member of the independant party, is your favorite. Help us here.......... Maybe I'll even start a new thread about the merits of socialism/communism and have you be the guest expert, just to help us all out.
I know it wasn't meant for me Jack but I'd love to know HOW the Tea Party will fix anything. It's great to say you want smaller government. It's another thing to actually give a way to feasibly accomplish such. My main beef with the Tea Party. It sounds great but I NEVER see feasible ways to accomplish what they preach and the party does NOT provide them. Talk is cheap isn't it?
I never said anyone "self-described" themselves as a commie or socialist, now did I? Please read my post again if you are unclear on what I think. Dr moen, I don't think you are stand-up enough to admit what you really are or what you really believe. Like all insidious types, for you can't say it aloud. **but, Maxine Waters is on record advocating the socializing of the US oil industry.
You just seemed so darned happy to keep throwing your 2 cents in, I thought you might want to help the rimster with his little problem. He DID say "self-described" and he has yet produce any instance of the Obama Administration "self-describing" themselves as Communists or Socialists. But you know, I can kind of relate. I have never said that I was a Socialist either but that hasn't prevented several of your ilk here from saying that I did. Maybe in today's world it isn't important what you actually are, it's more important how other people choose to use their biases to define you that really matters. If I actually were a Socialist, I'd have no problem stating it loud and clear. I just don't happen to actually be a Socialist but if it makes you guys feel all snug and cozy with each other to think that I am, have a nice circle jerk.
If you don't mind, I'll "throw my 2 cents in", too.... In March 2009 (Van) Jones was appointed by President Barack Obama to the newly created position of Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, where he worked with various "agencies and departments to advance the administration's climate and energy initiatives, with a special focus on improving vulnerable communities." Van Jones first moved to San Francisco in the spring of 1992, while studying law at Yale, when the leftist Lawyers Committee for Human Rights hired several law students to act as legal observers during the trial of policemen charged with assaulting Rodney King. Not guilty verdicts in the King case led to mass rioting–which Jones joined in. Arrested and jailed, Van Jones met a whole new circle of friends. The East Bay Express for November 2, 2005, reported: “I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of… I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary…I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th..By August, I was a communist.”
Here is a list of all polical parties, the year they were formed, and other names they went by. If you are so worried about Socialists and Communists, you might want to see how long some of these parties have been around and take note, I have never joined any of them. If I am a Socialist, I am a pretty bad one. Political Party /Founded in /Former Titles International Affiliations America First Party 2002 American 3rd Party 1990 American Nazi Party 1959 (World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists) American Party 1969 American Populist Party 2009 American Reform Party 1997 American Third Position Party 2010 America's Independent Party 2008 Boston Tea Party 2006 Citizens Party 2004 (New American Independent Party) Constitution Party 1992 (U.S. Taxpayers' Party) Communist Party of the United States of America 1919 Christian Liberty Party 1996 (American Heritage Party) Democratic Party 1828 (Alliance of Democrats) Florida Whig Party 2006 Freedom Road Socialist Organization (freedomroad.org faction) 1985 Freedom Road Socialist Organization (frso.org faction) 1985 Freedom Socialist Party 1966 Green Party of the United States 2001 (Global Greens) Independent American Party 1998 Independence Party of America 2007 Jefferson Republican Party 2006 Labor Party 1996 Libertarian National Socialist Green Party 1997 Libertarian Party 1971 Moderate Party 2005 Modern Whig Party 2008 National Socialist Movement 1974 New Union Party 1974 Objectivist Party 2008 Party for Socialism and Liberation 2004 Peace and Freedom Party 1967 Populist Party of America 2002 Progressive Labor Party 1961 (Progressive Labor Movement) Prohibition Party 1869 Raza Unida Party 1970 Reform Party of the United States of America 1995 Republican Party 1854 (International Democrat Union) Revolutionary Communist Party, USA 1975 Socialist Action 1983 (Fourth International) Socialist Alternative 1986 (Committee for a Workers' International) Socialist Equality Party 1966 (Workers League International Committee of the Fourth Int’) Socialist Labor Party of America 1876 (Workingmen's Party) Socialist Party USA 1973 Socialist Workers Party 1938 (Pathfinder tendency (unofficial)) U.S. Marxist–Leninist Organization 1981 United States Marijuana Party 2002 United States Pirate Party 2006 (Pirate Parties International) Unity Party of America 2004 Workers Party 2003 Workers World Party 1959 Working Families Party 1998 World Socialist Party of the United States 1916 (Socialist Party of the United States) Socialist Educational Society Workers' Socialist Party World Socialist Movement