Cop-Killing Columbia Professor Confronted

I get it. You are the judge and jury, right?

 

Don't you want to answer my question, Little Joe?

 

Went unanswered. Hum?

 

Interesting answer. Where is it?

 

Yep. Went unanswered.

 

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Controversy ensued when the news broke that Kathy Boudin, former member of the Weather Underground who was convicted in 1984 of felony murder, received the position of adjunct professor at Columbia University. While it may be ironic that Boudin received a teaching position at a university she was plotted to bomb, she is not the only former domestic terrorist to receive such a position.​

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At least a dozen former members of domestic terrorist organizations are now college professors. Members of the Weather Underground make up half of this list; some are well known, like Bill Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dohrn, Ayers is now retired from the University of Illinois, while Dohrn is still teaching at Northwestern Law.​

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Other lesser-known members of the group include Howard Machtinger, who was charged with conspiring to bomb the Detroit Police Officers Association Building and was on the run from the law for five years from 1973 to 1978. Machtinger now works for the School of Education at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.​

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Another Weatherman alumni, Mark Naison, has been a professor at Fordham University for 43 years. His time in the Weatherman was brief; he was a part of SDS and was part of the Columbia University occupation in 1967 and 1968. He was arrested for those protests as well as for a bar fight in 1969. Naison left the Weatherman after his last arrest, for fear he was putting his life in danger.​

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Eleanor Raskin was also involved in the 1968 Columbia University occupation by SDS. She continued to work with the Weather Underground throughout the 1960s and 1970s; eventually her home was raided in 1979 and bomb-making materials were discovered there. In 1981 she was arrested and prosecuted for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. She began to teach at the State University of New York in Albany and then later at Albany Law School. She currently is an administrative law judge.​

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Just another display of your self-imposed ignorance I guess.

 

Now I admit I had no idea as to what a "adjunct professorship." was, so I looked it up LOL

An adjunct professor is a professor who does not hold a permanent or full-time position at that particular academic institution. This may be someone with a job outside the academic institution teaching courses in a specialized field, or it may refer to persons hired to teach courses on a contractual basis (frequently renewable contracts). It is generally with a teaching load below the minimum required to earn benefits (health care, life insurance, etc.) although the number of courses taught can vary.
An adjunct is generally not required (or permitted) to participate in the administrative responsibilities at the institution expected of other full-time professors, nor do they generally have research responsibilities.
Adjuncts provide flexibility to the faculty, acting as additional teaching resources to be called up as necessary. However, their teaching load is variable: classes can be transferred from adjuncts to full-time professors, classes with low enrollment can be summarily canceled and the teaching schedule from one semester to the next can be unpredictable. In some cases, an adjunct may hold one of the standard ranks in another department, and be recognized with adjunct rank for making significant contributions to the department in question. Thus, one could be an "associate professor of physics and adjunct professor of chemistry."
In some universities, there are different ranks of adjunct faculty. For example, at the University of Iowa, the ranks are adjunct instructor, adjunct assistant professor, adjunct associate professor, and adjunct full professor; the University states that “the expectations at each rank are similar to those for the same rank on the tenure track

What I would also like to ask is do you guy's believe in rehabilitation of offenders? and there right once out of prison to try and lead a normal and productive life in the same way as any other citizen as guarenteed by your constitution?

 

Certainly, but there are limits. For instance, I don't want child molesters, even rehabilitated, teaching kindergarten.

 

Apparently Jesse Waters doesn't.

 

Wouldn't one step in the rehabilitation process involve being sorry for one's actions or admitting the crime was a mistake? Apparently these Weather Underground crazies are all just as extreme as they ever were. Didn't BO's mentor express regret for not doing more in the way of domestic terrorism?

 

I'm not defending her here David but REALLY, other than your own far right opinions, can you back up ANYTHING you seem to be spouting as gospel here?

 

I think that you like us have prohibitions on what sex offenders can do once released from Prison, (Dont you?) but we are not talking about a sex offender here are we nor are we talking about President Obama (For David) We are talking about this persons rights as guarenteed by your constitution to enjoy a normal life and that includes employment.

Ps or do you not agree with upholding there constitutional rights?

 

No, you're right, we're not talking about a sex offender. We're talking about a murderer. I don't want murderers teaching in our schools either.

She has served her sentence, but that doesn't mean that society necessarily will accept her again. For example, I wouldn't want Dr. Gosnell practicing abortion ever again no matter how many years he serves in prison. I certainly wouldn't want him teaching in our schools.

As far as your argument allowing her to live a "normal life", no the Constitution doesn't guarantee a "normal life". It guarantees "life". It says nothing about employment.

 

This for David

Letter from Kathy Boudin '65

For the last 19 years I have lived in prison, quietly making a personal journey that has helped me to face the tragedy I am responsible for, understanding what allowed me to be involved, and building a new sense of life and what is worth doing. I want to thank you who have been with me throughout, who have helped me survive and learn to rebuild. When I stood in front of the judge almost two decades ago, I expressed my remorse. That was the beginning of a long process of facing what I had done. I want to describe some of what I have learned.
Do I feel what I did was wrong? Yes. I want to be clear. I know that I am responsible for a terrible thing. I feel nothing but remorse and shame about my involvement. I will live with this for the rest of my life.
I pled guilty to robbery and felony murder for the death of a man who was a Brinks' guard. My role was riding in a getaway car parked three miles from the robbery. Although I did not shoot nor hurt anyone physically and was never armed, I live every day with the knowledge that I am fully responsible-responsible because I supported the idea that this misguided robbery would make a positive difference, responsible because I was in a getaway car, and morally responsible for all the tragic consequences that resulted. Three people died; others suffered physically and emotionally; families were ripped apart; a whole town shaken. Now, in spite of my dream of helping to create a more humane society, I am forever connected to the deaths of innocent people. This connection has change me. I will never be associated again with any act that places human lives at risk.
Part of what I share with other women here is that aching question, "Why?" Why did I make the life choices that brought me to prison? As I was growing up, I wanted to be a doctor, to help, to heal. Later, I was torn over whether to apply to medical school or law school. I thought the problems were social, and I wanted to heal society. I spent years working as a community educator feeling a responsibility to use the privileges of my background to help others. I felt the urgency to solve the problems that moved so many of my generation, but I became fixed on being certain that I had the correct solution, and I made some seriously wrong choices. Over time, I lost sight of the goal of healing.
After 12 years of living underground, I became rigidly committed to a grand vision of improving society that was not connected to the day-to-day realities of people. I felt strongly about existing problems, but I was seriously out of touch with how to work on them. By the time of my arrest, I was desperately trying to redefine myself and my life, to make major changes, but I did not carry it through. I have asked myself over and over again how could I, an adult, a person who was educated, a woman who saw myself guided by ideals of helping humanity, have gone out that day? I never wanted anyone to get hurt, yet the risks should have been obvious to me. My sense of the world and of myself was distorted.
People were killed and injured and I abandoned my son, whom I loved, at the baby-sitter. Now, after years of soul searching, I can see that a combination of my personal issues, wrong thinking, and the impact of years of isolation contributed to my moral failures.
After my arrest, I had to start over and sort out what had gone wrong. I committed myself to my son and that was the start of a better path of living. It began to put me back in touch with reality. Something inside of me changed. I went back to basics. My son became a life-line, and he has remained for all these years an anchor to my own heart, and to other people's hearts as well.
At Bedford Hills I began to create a new life. I dedicated myself to working with our Children's Center. With women here, I've learned about how to love and support our children from a distance and how to help other mothers do this. I went through years when our whole community faced fear, loss, and death caused by AIDS. Together, we developed a peer community health program to cope with the AIDS epidemic. I have worked with women committed to acquire a college education, and with them moved educators on the outside to help build a wonderful four-year college program. I find satisfaction in the day-to-day ways that people find strength in their abilities, and being part of this: teaching women to read and write, to communicate with their children, and learning about dying and living with dignity. I have known wonderful people-inmates and staff-and learned from them and with them.
Fortunately, I've been in a prison that believes people can change, and can make a difference. Here, I live with many other inmates who, like myself, have grown to become teachers and peer counselors, coming together to solve shared problems. It is through these experiences and relationships that my own change and growth have come about. My experience at Bedford leaves me both hopeful and inspired by the enormous potential of people. I believe that there are lessons from our work here that would be useful in the broader society. My opportunities to learn, to get a master's degree in adult education, to study psychology and social work, have helped me reorient myself and my goals.
I know it is impossible to make up for the suffering I helped to cause; I have tried to give back to a community of people, to live my life in a life-giving way.
My work, while the source of much hope, has also taken me in another direction. It deepens over and over my grasp of the human sorrow and loss that I am tied to. Sitting with young women dying of AIDS, creating a quilt for those in our community who are no longer with us, I face the deaths for which I am responsible. As I work with mothers on rebuilding their relationships with the children they left, I am overwhelmed by my own responsibility for leaving a group of children with no hope of ever seeing their own fathers again. Now I can ask: what if it were my father, my husband, or my son who had been killed or hurt? What would I feel? I understand the rage that the victims' families may feel towards me. If I could just turn the clock back and make things different; if only I could do that.
As I look back, I feel enormous regret. My life's journey will always include that day 20 years ago, and all the people who suffer because of it. I think about how much has changed in the last two decades. Some of you have become grandparents, have moved to new cities, created meaningful work, probably changed inside yourself. I know I have. I feel the preciousness of life, its shortness, its complexity. I don't know whether it is because of my growing older, being rooted in a community, or the lessons I continue to learn from the tragedy I helped to create, I recognize limitations, yet find satisfaction in what I can do. While looking back, I am also looking ahead. I think eagerly of using what I've learned here to give back to society. I imagine rejoining you who have been with me during these years. I hope that you will write back and will become part of my life. Others from the College have helped me to know that in examining the past, there is hope; and that in passing on hard learned wisdom to our children, our friends, and others around us, there is the possibility of repair and renewal.
—KATHY BOUDIN '65

 

http://www.brynmawr.edu/alumnae/bulletin/letsu01.htm

 

And yes you are correct Coin I was thinking of this when I mentioned the constitution

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"

Mainly the last bit of it "with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"

 

How about Sanford back in politics. Does he deserve a second chance just because his failing wasn't as bad as murder? And what exactly is the cut-off?

 

Defend the lefties! Defend the lefties!
It doesn't seem to matter what a liberal does, the others all circle the wagons.