Contraception Coverage Mandate

Republicans are crying and wailing and stomping their feet and flailing their arms and Boehner has crawled out of the woodwork to pontificate the evils of mandating that employers cover birth control as part of their health care coverage all under the guise of religious freedom of all things. What a total crock of *%$#@!

The funny part is that the issue that they are trying to push front and center is such a nonissue in the first place that their efforts to sensationalize this story into an election year controversy is destined to fail. Why? Because the precedents are already out there as well as the numbers of people that just don't see this as an issue.

· 28 states already mandate birth control as part of the health care coverage
· 98% of Catholic couples already use birth control
· Catholic hospitals already dispense birth control
· The last time birth control was in issue in this country was in the 1960’s

 

If you honestly believe that, you need to pull you head out of ..... and look at the rest of the world.

 

Maybe it has always been an issue in your neck of the woods but the civilized world put it to bed decades ago. I can't speak for backwater yokel Hicksville but that is your purview anyway.

Way to address a single point! Try to come into each thread and start throwing insults around from the git-go. You add so much to the conversation….NOT!

 

That is the crux of your whole argument and it is so wrong it is even funny. BTW, so is your 98% figure.

 

According to a study by the Guttmacher Institute, most women, including 98 percent of Catholic women, have used contraception.

But you know better?

CONTRACEPTIVE USE IS THE NORM AMONG RELIGIOUS WOMEN

Policies that Make Contraceptives More Affordable and Easier to Use Reflect the Needs of All Women, Including Catholics and Evangelical Protestants

Contraceptive use by Catholics and Evangelicals—including those who attend religious services most frequently—is the norm, according to a new Guttmacher report. This finding confirms that policies making contraceptives more affordable and easier to use reflect the needs and desires of the vast majority of U.S. women and their partners, regardless of their religious beliefs.
“In real-life America, contraceptive use and strong religious beliefs are highly compatible,” says Rachel K. Jones, the report’s lead author. “Most sexually active women who do not want to become pregnant practice contraception, and most use highly effective methods like sterilization, the pill, or the IUD. This is true for Evangelicals and Mainline Protestants, and it is true for Catholics, despite the Catholic hierarchy’s strenuous opposition to contraception.”
The analysis, based on a nationally representative U.S. government survey, has important implications for health policy, which is still at times shaped by the mistaken belief that contraceptive use runs counter to strongly held religious beliefs. The new report counters this myth and shows that opposition to contraception by the Catholic hierarchy and other socially conservative organizations is not reflected in the actual behaviors and health care needs of Catholic and Evangelical women. For instance, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops actively opposes the designation of contraceptive services as women’s preventive health care that, under a provision of the health care reform law, must be covered in all health insurance plans without cost sharing.
“There is a strong body of evidence demonstrating that contraceptive use and the prevention of unintended pregnancy improves the health and social and economic well-being of women and their families,” says Adam Sonfield, a Guttmacher policy analyst. “Women from all walks of life and varying religious affiliations have come to this same conclusion and acted on it. Sound public policy making should recognize this and support women by making contraceptives easier and more affordable to use. Health policy should not serve as a proxy for religious dogma.”
The report’s key findings include the following points:

• Among all women who have had sex, 99% have ever used a contraceptive method other than natural family planning. This figure is virtually the same among Catholic women (98%).
• Among sexually active women of all denominations who do not want to become pregnant, 69% are using a highly effective method (i.e., sterilization, the pill or another hormonal method, or the IUD).
• Some 68% of Catholic women use a highly effective method, compared with 73% of Mainline Protestants and 74% of Evangelicals.
• Only 2% of Catholic women rely on natural family planning; this is true even among Catholic women who attend church once a month or more.
• More than four in 10 Evangelicals rely on male or female sterilization, a figure that is higher than among the other religious groups.

 

If it is such a non-issue please explain why BO has made such a big deal out of it & upset so many people?

(I'll give you a hint- it's all about his mission to eventually force everyone into the clutches of Obamacare).

 

Only RW'ers are "upset" and only the Fox News types that want a culture war as the the main issue in this election seem to be upset. Even a majority of Republicans want birth control coverage. So my prediction is that this psuedo-issue will die sooner than later. I hope the "issue" stays around because the vast, vast majority of women out there will take a pretty dim view of the RW for their stance on contraception coverage.

 

....but you didn't answer the question.
If everything you say is true, what motivation would BO have to make such a big deal about it?

 

Remember your statement about making absolute statements? Well, it just bit you big time. Not only does you reference not say "98 percent of Catholic women" use birth control, but the Catholic Church does not oppose all methods of birth control used by the 98 percent of sexually active Catholic women.

 

Obama didn't make a "big deal" out of it, the RW did. So your premise is faulty from the start.
Now, if you define Obama as a failure based on the unemployment figures, then you have to also define Reagan as a failure based on the same criteria….Right? WAS REAGAN A FAILURE?
Obama has presided over a loss of 1.6 million of the nation's 111 million private-company jobs since taking office, according to official statistics. But since employment hit post-recession lows in February 2010, companies have added 2.6 million jobs, beating the 2.4 million created between the bottom of the 1982 recession and this point in Reagan's first term. Joblessness then was 9.2%.

 

Oh do enlighten us! Which methods of birth control are they Ok with? Please post something other than your opinion. In other words proof of your opinion.

 

Apparently moen is running behind on this issue as many dems & WH inside are questioning BO's attack on religion:

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatc...to-contain-uproar-over-birth-control-mandates

 

Never mind the chest beating, just answer the question. Was Reagan a failure also?

 

So, if BO is a success based on his record, does that mean you believe Reagan was too?

 

Let me see 1.6 million jobs lost and 2.6 million added. Are you tering to convince people there has been a 1 million net gain in jobs since Obama took office? Don't think folks will buy it.

 

Actually, those were last year's figures. It's actually in all likelihood higher than that now. I don't know which folks you are referring to but I know that there are RW'er that would believe that the sun came up this morning if Obama mentioned it in a speech today. We call that Obama derangement syndrome.

 

I don't know what the big deal is. It just mandates that it be covered. It doesn't say any has to use it. And, if you work for a Catholic hospital, do you have to follow every little Catholic edict. How about giving the Prots and everyone some freedom from Rome?

 

Let me see if I can figure this out. Unemployment end of January, 2009 when Obama took office according to Bureau of Labor statistics was 7.8%. One year ago at the end of February, 2011 the rate was at 9.0%. So how did Obama reside over a net gain of 1 miilion jobs during this period and yet the unemployment rate went up 1.2 percentage points? Must be based on that 1 in 5 - 22% math system.

 

It's a fundamental tenet of Catholic teaching. For BO to overstep his gov't authority & dictate something that is in direct conflict with what we consider a matter of conscious is indefensible. What an individual Catholic does in regard to Church teaching is their decision to make, if the Church or one of it's organizations decided to offer birth control on their own accord, that's their decision to make. What BO is doing is forcing the Church to induldge his fancy and that's just not right. What would limit him from dicatating that you do something contrary to your beliefs next?

 

Oh God! Are you now arguing that 1 in 5 is 22% too? You are becoming another RW zombie here. Good luck with that. I tend to beat the RW'ers here into zombie dust.