On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:09:15 -0500, mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: >mimus wrote: >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>david hillstrom wrote: >>>>On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote: >>>>>On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>>>mimus wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. elegans_, which >>>>>>>>>consists of about a thousand cells, eats bacteria, has a nervous system, >>>>>>>>>can be frozen and thawed back out, is virus-free, and survived the >>>>>>>>>_Columbia_ disaster, see: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through thousands >>>>>>>>of generations in a human lifetime, have a much larger population base, >>>>>>>>and have been around in substantially 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The exciting part is that in their progress from the single-cell >>>>>>>fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete with nervous >>>>>>>system!), they use much the same developmental-control genes that the >>>>>>>rest of us use, making them a sweet little "model organism" for >>>>>>>studying said development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>>>melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its giant >>>>>>>chromosomes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as lack of >>>>>>>food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go forth and explore. >>>>>> >>>>>>how long do these little critters live? >>>>> >>>>>Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say just >>>>>about forever. >>>>> >>>>>An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not actually more so >>>>>than cockroaches. >>>> >>>>what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>>already living inside me? >>> >>>You can't eat just one. >> >> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before you chow >> down on 'em, eh? >> >> (With filtered water, at that.) >> >Just rinse the grit off under hose or in the spring - if there's grit - >like with carrots or spinach. Or wipe 'em off on yer shirt. Like with >apples or pears or tomateos. Or just flick the critters (aphids, ants, >spiders) off like with raspberries or blueberries - if there are any. >Then pop 'em into yer mouth. Nematodes and all. Then you'll grow up >strong and healthy. i once had a singing nematode. true story. -- dave hillstrom xrbj
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:30:48 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:27:23 -0500, mimus wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:39:14 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. elegans_, which >>>>>>>> consists of about a thousand cells, eats bacteria, has a nervous system, >>>>>>>> can be frozen and thawed back out, is virus-free, and survived the >>>>>>>> _Columbia_ disaster, see: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through thousands >>>>>>> of generations in a human lifetime, have a much larger population base, >>>>>>> and have been around in substantially 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>> >>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>> >>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the single-cell >>>>>> fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete with nervous >>>>>> system!), they use much the same developmental-control genes that the >>>>>> rest of us use, making them a sweet little "model organism" for >>>>>> studying said development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>> melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its giant >>>>>> chromosomes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as lack of >>>>>> food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go forth and explore. >>>>> >>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>> >>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say just >>>> about forever. >>>> >>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not actually more >>>> so than cockroaches. >>> >>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they already >>> living inside me? >> >> I don't know how well they stand up to stomach acid. >> >> Anyway, wurms normally get scragged by the immune system if they somehow >> make their way into ya, for example by traumatic injection, like getting a >> stick stuck into ya (the ones that don't are highly-evolved and >> -specialized predators or parasites, just like pathogenic bacteria, fungi, >> amebas). >> >> Incidentally, the rate of Guinea Worm infections is at an all-time low >> world-wide, or so I seem to've caught on the teevee n00z yesterday (see >> following post "Cable Reset": >> >> Will we miss slowly winding the little fellers out of our sides on >> sticks? >> >> I do wonder if that's a presently-accurate statistic, since I suspect such >> public health as there was has pretty much collapsed in central and >> northwest Africa. > >Northeast, not northwest. > >Winging it again, eh, Mr. mimus? JPEGS!!!! -- dave hillstrom xrbj
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:40:26 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:14:52 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >> >>> david hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. elegans_, which >>>>>>>>> consists of about a thousand cells, eats bacteria, has a nervous system, >>>>>>>>> can be frozen and thawed back out, is virus-free, and survived the >>>>>>>>> _Columbia_ disaster, see: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through thousands >>>>>>>> of generations in a human lifetime, have a much larger population base, >>>>>>>> and have been around in substantially 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the single-cell >>>>>>> fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete with nervous >>>>>>> system!), they use much the same developmental-control genes that the >>>>>>> rest of us use, making them a sweet little "model organism" for >>>>>>> studying said development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>>> melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its giant >>>>>>> chromosomes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as lack of >>>>>>> food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go forth and explore. >>>>>> >>>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>>> >>>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say just >>>>> about forever. >>>>> >>>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not actually more so >>>>> than cockroaches. >>>> >>>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>> already living inside me? >>> >>> You can't eat just one. >> >> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before you >> chow down on 'em, eh? >> >> (With filtered water, at that.) > > if we could only train them to fix damaged tissue, we'd be set. We've already got leeches and maggots, what more do ya want? -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 "You are either insane or a fool." "I am a sanitary inspector." < _Maske: Thaery_
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:41:19 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:09:15 -0500, mixed nuts > <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: > >> mimus wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>> >>>> david hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. >>>>>>>>>> elegans_, which consists of about a thousand cells, eats >>>>>>>>>> bacteria, has a nervous system, can be frozen and thawed back >>>>>>>>>> out, is virus-free, and survived the _Columbia_ disaster, see: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through >>>>>>>>> thousands of generations in a human lifetime, have a much larger >>>>>>>>> population base, and have been around in substantially 'settled >>>>>>>>> form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the single-cell >>>>>>>> fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete with nervous >>>>>>>> system!), they use much the same developmental-control genes that >>>>>>>> the rest of us use, making them a sweet little "model organism" >>>>>>>> for studying said development, just as earlier the noble >>>>>>>> _Drosophila melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for >>>>>>>> genetics with its giant chromosomes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as lack >>>>>>>> of food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go forth and >>>>>>>> explore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>>>> >>>>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say >>>>>> just about forever. >>>>>> >>>>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not actually >>>>>> more so than cockroaches. >>>>> >>>>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>>> already living inside me? >>>> >>>> You can't eat just one. >>> >>> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before you >>> chow down on 'em, eh? >>> >>> (With filtered water, at that.) >> >> Just rinse the grit off under hose or in the spring - if there's grit - >> like with carrots or spinach. Or wipe 'em off on yer shirt. Like with >> apples or pears or tomateos. Or just flick the critters (aphids, ants, >> spiders) off like with raspberries or blueberries - if there are any. >> Then pop 'em into yer mouth. Nematodes and all. Then you'll grow up >> strong and healthy. > > i once had a singing nematode. true story. <soothingly> Of course you did. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 Decorum, after all, was a more subtle and ultimately more satisfactory weapon than high feelings and improper conduct. < Vance
"mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: > > > PERV. > > <sniff> > > I'm gonna take my worms and go home. Well you DID ask. Smee > > -- > tinmimus99@hotmail.com > > smeeter 11 or maybe 12 > > mp 10 > > mhm 29x13 > > Whatever are we to do to show the > true harmony and peace that rule here, > somewhat disguised at the moment by > the apparent disorder now seemingly in > progress? > > < Laumer > >
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:26:19 -0800, pscissons wrote: > "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: >> >>> PERV. >> >> <sniff> >> >> I'm gonna take my worms and go home. > > Well you DID ask. > > Smee Speakin' of _C. elegans_, it's a good thing they can be frozen and thawed out, is all I can say. Brrr. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 It's Spring, and with any luck the carbon dioxide will thaw. < Pratchett
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:16:39 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:40:26 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:14:52 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>> >>>> david hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. elegans_, which >>>>>>>>>> consists of about a thousand cells, eats bacteria, has a nervous system, >>>>>>>>>> can be frozen and thawed back out, is virus-free, and survived the >>>>>>>>>> _Columbia_ disaster, see: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through thousands >>>>>>>>> of generations in a human lifetime, have a much larger population base, >>>>>>>>> and have been around in substantially 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the single-cell >>>>>>>> fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete with nervous >>>>>>>> system!), they use much the same developmental-control genes that the >>>>>>>> rest of us use, making them a sweet little "model organism" for >>>>>>>> studying said development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>>>> melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its giant >>>>>>>> chromosomes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as lack of >>>>>>>> food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go forth and explore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>>>> >>>>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say just >>>>>> about forever. >>>>>> >>>>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not actually more so >>>>>> than cockroaches. >>>>> >>>>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>>> already living inside me? >>>> >>>> You can't eat just one. >>> >>> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before you >>> chow down on 'em, eh? >>> >>> (With filtered water, at that.) >> >> if we could only train them to fix damaged tissue, we'd be set. > >We've already got leeches and maggots, what more do ya want? lil wigglers that could heal torn ligaments and bone and soft tissue is what i want. screw the nanobots. UP WITH THE WORMS!!!! -- dave hillstrom xrbj
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:11:07 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:26:19 -0800, pscissons wrote: > >> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: >>> >>>> PERV. >>> >>> <sniff> >>> >>> I'm gonna take my worms and go home. >> >> Well you DID ask. >> >> Smee > >Speakin' of _C. elegans_, it's a good thing they can be frozen and thawed >out, is all I can say. > >Brrr. its sub freezin and majorly windy here. got wind? -- dave hillstrom xrbj
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:16:17 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:16:39 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:40:26 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:14:52 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>> >>>>> david hillstrom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. elegans_, which >>>>>>>>>>> consists of about a thousand cells, eats bacteria, has a nervous system, >>>>>>>>>>> can be frozen and thawed back out, is virus-free, and survived the >>>>>>>>>>> _Columbia_ disaster, see: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through thousands >>>>>>>>>> of generations in a human lifetime, have a much larger population base, >>>>>>>>>> and have been around in substantially 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the single-cell >>>>>>>>> fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete with nervous >>>>>>>>> system!), they use much the same developmental-control genes that the >>>>>>>>> rest of us use, making them a sweet little "model organism" for >>>>>>>>> studying said development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>>>>> melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its giant >>>>>>>>> chromosomes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as lack of >>>>>>>>> food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go forth and explore. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say just >>>>>>> about forever. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not actually more so >>>>>>> than cockroaches. >>>>>> >>>>>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>>>> already living inside me? >>>>> >>>>> You can't eat just one. >>>> >>>> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before you >>>> chow down on 'em, eh? >>>> >>>> (With filtered water, at that.) >>> >>> if we could only train them to fix damaged tissue, we'd be set. >> >> We've already got leeches and maggots, what more do ya want? > > lil wigglers that could heal torn ligaments and bone and soft tissue > is what i want. screw the nanobots. UP WITH THE WORMS!!!! I'd rather use engineered macromolecules or biopolymers for that sorta thing. Just like the body does. Single cells at most (complicated), traveling to problem area and releasing said molecules. After all, worms might have their own agenda. Go on strike or something. Revolt. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 When a system is set up to accomplish some goal, a new entity has come into being--the system itself. No matter what the "goal" of the system, it immediately begins to exhibit system behavior; that is, to act according to the general laws that govern the operation of all systems. Now the system itself has to be dealt with. < _Systemantics_
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:23:42 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:11:07 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:26:19 -0800, pscissons wrote: >> >>> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> >>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: >>>> >>>>> PERV. >>>> >>>> <sniff> >>>> >>>> I'm gonna take my worms and go home. >>> >>> Well you DID ask. >>> >>> Smee >> >> Speakin' of _C. elegans_, it's a good thing they can be frozen and >> thawed out, is all I can say. >> >> Brrr. > > its sub freezin and majorly windy here. > > got wind? Did last night, roaring from the NNW. Calm and sunny today, so even though it's only in the mid 20s F the snow's meltin' off. Where's global warming when ya need it? -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 "You are either insane or a fool." "I am a sanitary inspector." < _Maske: Thaery_
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:43:21 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:16:17 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:16:39 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:40:26 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:14:52 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. elegans_, which >>>>>>>>>>>> consists of about a thousand cells, eats bacteria, has a nervous system, >>>>>>>>>>>> can be frozen and thawed back out, is virus-free, and survived the >>>>>>>>>>>> _Columbia_ disaster, see: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through thousands >>>>>>>>>>> of generations in a human lifetime, have a much larger population base, >>>>>>>>>>> and have been around in substantially 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the single-cell >>>>>>>>>> fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete with nervous >>>>>>>>>> system!), they use much the same developmental-control genes that the >>>>>>>>>> rest of us use, making them a sweet little "model organism" for >>>>>>>>>> studying said development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>>>>>> melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its giant >>>>>>>>>> chromosomes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as lack of >>>>>>>>>> food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go forth and explore. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say just >>>>>>>> about forever. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not actually more so >>>>>>>> than cockroaches. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>>>>> already living inside me? >>>>>> >>>>>> You can't eat just one. >>>>> >>>>> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before you >>>>> chow down on 'em, eh? >>>>> >>>>> (With filtered water, at that.) >>>> >>>> if we could only train them to fix damaged tissue, we'd be set. >>> >>> We've already got leeches and maggots, what more do ya want? >> >> lil wigglers that could heal torn ligaments and bone and soft tissue >> is what i want. screw the nanobots. UP WITH THE WORMS!!!! > >I'd rather use engineered macromolecules or biopolymers for that sorta >thing. > >Just like the body does. > >Single cells at most (complicated), traveling to problem area and >releasing said molecules. > >After all, worms might have their own agenda. Go on strike or something. >Revolt. give em a movie night and i bet theyll be just fine. -- dave hillstrom xrbj
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:45:22 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:23:42 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > >> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:11:07 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:26:19 -0800, pscissons wrote: >>> >>>> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> PERV. >>>>> >>>>> <sniff> >>>>> >>>>> I'm gonna take my worms and go home. >>>> >>>> Well you DID ask. >>>> >>>> Smee >>> >>> Speakin' of _C. elegans_, it's a good thing they can be frozen and >>> thawed out, is all I can say. >>> >>> Brrr. >> >> its sub freezin and majorly windy here. >> >> got wind? > >Did last night, roaring from the NNW. Calm and sunny today, so even >though it's only in the mid 20s F the snow's meltin' off. > >Where's global warming when ya need it? in australia for the northern winter. i sometimes get emails from it. -- dave hillstrom xrbj
mimus wrote: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:26:19 -0800, pscissons wrote: > >> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: >>> >>>> PERV. >>> >>> <sniff> >>> >>> I'm gonna take my worms and go home. >> >> Well you DID ask. >> >> Smee > > Speakin' of _C. elegans_, it's a good thing they can be frozen and thawed > out, is all I can say. > > Brrr. Ain't there some other things that can be frozen and will spring back into full motion when warmed up again? -- Tim Weaver I don't care what you say, a JMP is the same as a GOTO.
mimus wrote: > On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:16:17 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:16:39 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:40:26 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:14:52 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus >>>>>>>>> <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. >>>>>>>>>>>> elegans_, which consists of about a thousand cells, eats >>>>>>>>>>>> bacteria, has a nervous system, can be frozen and thawed back >>>>>>>>>>>> out, is virus-free, and survived the _Columbia_ disaster, >>>>>>>>>>>> see: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through >>>>>>>>>>> thousands of generations in a human lifetime, have a much >>>>>>>>>>> larger population base, and have been around in substantially >>>>>>>>>>> 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the >>>>>>>>>> single-cell fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete >>>>>>>>>> with nervous system!), they use much the same >>>>>>>>>> developmental-control genes that the rest of us use, making >>>>>>>>>> them a sweet little "model organism" for studying said >>>>>>>>>> development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>>>>>> melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its >>>>>>>>>> giant chromosomes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as >>>>>>>>>> lack of food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go >>>>>>>>>> forth and explore. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say >>>>>>>> just about forever. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not >>>>>>>> actually more so than cockroaches. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>>>>> already living inside me? >>>>>> >>>>>> You can't eat just one. >>>>> >>>>> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before >>>>> you chow down on 'em, eh? >>>>> >>>>> (With filtered water, at that.) >>>> >>>> if we could only train them to fix damaged tissue, we'd be set. >>> >>> We've already got leeches and maggots, what more do ya want? >> >> lil wigglers that could heal torn ligaments and bone and soft tissue is >> what i want. screw the nanobots. UP WITH THE WORMS!!!! > > I'd rather use engineered macromolecules or biopolymers for that sorta > thing. > > Just like the body does. > > Single cells at most (complicated), traveling to problem area and > releasing said molecules. > > After all, worms might have their own agenda. Go on strike or > something. Revolt. Yeah. A worm revolt. We wouldn't want that. -- Tim Weaver I don't care what you say, a JMP is the same as a GOTO.
mimus wrote: > On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:23:42 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: > >> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:11:07 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:26:19 -0800, pscissons wrote: >>> >>>> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> PERV. >>>>> >>>>> <sniff> >>>>> >>>>> I'm gonna take my worms and go home. >>>> >>>> Well you DID ask. >>>> >>>> Smee >>> >>> Speakin' of _C. elegans_, it's a good thing they can be frozen and >>> thawed out, is all I can say. >>> >>> Brrr. >> >> its sub freezin and majorly windy here. >> >> got wind? > > Did last night, roaring from the NNW. Calm and sunny today, so even > though it's only in the mid 20s F the snow's meltin' off. > > Where's global warming when ya need it? Al Gore was ~too~ successful with his masterpiece of a movie. -- Tim Weaver I don't care what you say, a JMP is the same as a GOTO.
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:52:40 +0000, Tim Weaver wrote: > mimus wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:26:19 -0800, pscissons wrote: >> >>> "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> >>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: >>>> >>>>> PERV. >>>> >>>> <sniff> >>>> >>>> I'm gonna take my worms and go home. >>> >>> Well you DID ask. >>> >>> Smee >> >> Speakin' of _C. elegans_, it's a good thing they can be frozen and thawed >> out, is all I can say. >> >> Brrr. > > Ain't there some other things that can be frozen and will spring back into > full motion when warmed up again? Tardigrades, I guess. "Temperate"-zone plant-seeds in general, one presumes. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 You want a job and a lizard to ride? < _The Einstein Intersection_
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:53:32 +0000, Tim Weaver wrote: > mimus wrote: > >> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:16:17 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:16:39 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:40:26 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:14:52 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus >>>>>>>>>> <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. >>>>>>>>>>>>> elegans_, which consists of about a thousand cells, eats >>>>>>>>>>>>> bacteria, has a nervous system, can be frozen and thawed back >>>>>>>>>>>>> out, is virus-free, and survived the _Columbia_ disaster, >>>>>>>>>>>>> see: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through >>>>>>>>>>>> thousands of generations in a human lifetime, have a much >>>>>>>>>>>> larger population base, and have been around in substantially >>>>>>>>>>>> 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the >>>>>>>>>>> single-cell fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete >>>>>>>>>>> with nervous system!), they use much the same >>>>>>>>>>> developmental-control genes that the rest of us use, making >>>>>>>>>>> them a sweet little "model organism" for studying said >>>>>>>>>>> development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>>>>>>> melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its >>>>>>>>>>> giant chromosomes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as >>>>>>>>>>> lack of food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go >>>>>>>>>>> forth and explore. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say >>>>>>>>> just about forever. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not >>>>>>>>> actually more so than cockroaches. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>>>>>> already living inside me? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can't eat just one. >>>>>> >>>>>> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before >>>>>> you chow down on 'em, eh? >>>>>> >>>>>> (With filtered water, at that.) >>>>> >>>>> if we could only train them to fix damaged tissue, we'd be set. >>>> >>>> We've already got leeches and maggots, what more do ya want? >>> >>> lil wigglers that could heal torn ligaments and bone and soft tissue is >>> what i want. screw the nanobots. UP WITH THE WORMS!!!! >> >> I'd rather use engineered macromolecules or biopolymers for that sorta >> thing. >> >> Just like the body does. >> >> Single cells at most (complicated), traveling to problem area and >> releasing said molecules. >> >> After all, worms might have their own agenda. Go on strike or >> something. Revolt. > > Yeah. A worm revolt. We wouldn't want that. You get a sympathy-strike from the earthworms and it's all over. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 You want a job and a lizard to ride? < _The Einstein Intersection_
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:54:29 +0000, Tim Weaver wrote: > I don't care what you say, > a JMP is the same as a GOTO. Is somebody arguing differently? the fols. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 C: The First and Still the Best Portable AL! RSN
Tim Weaver wrote: > mimus wrote: > >>On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:26:19 -0800, pscissons wrote: >> >>>"mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:xe2dnYedbaBXdKfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> >>>>On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:23:04 -0800, Shirley wrote: >>>> >>>>>PERV. >>>> >>>><sniff> >>>> >>>>I'm gonna take my worms and go home. >>> >>>Well you DID ask. >>> >>>Smee >> >>Speakin' of _C. elegans_, it's a good thing they can be frozen and thawed >>out, is all I can say. >> >>Brrr. > > Ain't there some other things that can be frozen and will spring back into > full motion when warmed up again? Many insects overwinter frozen. There's the sonoran desert toad that survives freezing on a routine basis. Some fish too. -- nuts
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:53:18 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:53:32 +0000, Tim Weaver wrote: > >> mimus wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:16:17 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:16:39 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:40:26 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:14:52 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:57:51 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:39:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:31:18 -0500, david hillstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:24:56 -0500, mimus >>>>>>>>>>> <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:23:36 -0500, mixed nuts wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mimus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I reely reely like this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wormbase.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a quick intro to what it's all about, the noble _C. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> elegans_, which consists of about a thousand cells, eats >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bacteria, has a nervous system, can be frozen and thawed back >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, is virus-free, and survived the _Columbia_ disaster, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caenorhabditis_elegans >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> They're more 'evolved' than we are as well - they go through >>>>>>>>>>>>> thousands of generations in a human lifetime, have a much >>>>>>>>>>>>> larger population base, and have been around in substantially >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'settled form' for a lot longer. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Elegans" is a proper descriptive term. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Could've equally well've been "efficiens". >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The exciting part is that in their progress from the >>>>>>>>>>>> single-cell fertilized egg to the thousand-cell adult (complete >>>>>>>>>>>> with nervous system!), they use much the same >>>>>>>>>>>> developmental-control genes that the rest of us use, making >>>>>>>>>>>> them a sweet little "model organism" for studying said >>>>>>>>>>>> development, just as earlier the noble _Drosophila >>>>>>>>>>>> melanogaster_ became the "model organism" for genetics with its >>>>>>>>>>>> giant chromosomes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, rather neatly, any time environmental stress, such as >>>>>>>>>>>> lack of food, warrants, they raise the number of males to go >>>>>>>>>>>> forth and explore. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> how long do these little critters live? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Based on the freezing-and-thawing and _Columbia_ things, I'd say >>>>>>>>>> just about forever. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> An "extreme metazoan", indeed, right up there with if not >>>>>>>>>> actually more so than cockroaches. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what if i eat one by accident? will it make me sick? are they >>>>>>>>> already living inside me? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can't eat just one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Be sure to wash them fruits 'n' nuts 'n' veggies 'n' roots before >>>>>>> you chow down on 'em, eh? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (With filtered water, at that.) >>>>>> >>>>>> if we could only train them to fix damaged tissue, we'd be set. >>>>> >>>>> We've already got leeches and maggots, what more do ya want? >>>> >>>> lil wigglers that could heal torn ligaments and bone and soft tissue is >>>> what i want. screw the nanobots. UP WITH THE WORMS!!!! >>> >>> I'd rather use engineered macromolecules or biopolymers for that sorta >>> thing. >>> >>> Just like the body does. >>> >>> Single cells at most (complicated), traveling to problem area and >>> releasing said molecules. >>> >>> After all, worms might have their own agenda. Go on strike or >>> something. Revolt. >> >> Yeah. A worm revolt. We wouldn't want that. > >You get a sympathy-strike from the earthworms and it's all over. the fish would be very sad at that. -- dave hillstrom xrbj
