BO forces Churches to pay for birth control!

This little nugget didn't get much attention over the weekend so in case you missed it.......

BO is now requiring churches & other organizations to include birth control coverage benefits in their employee healthcare packages even if it is in direct conflict with that organizations values & beliefs. Guess what happens if the organizatio doesn't comply. Yep, that group gets rolled into the Obamacare bureacracy!
BO and his minions are running a scam here. They know most organizations won't bow to him therefore he has that many more people involuntarily forced into the grasps of Obamacare. And in case some do follow this order? Yep, his trump card will always be the piece that says you can keep your preferred coverage until they raise your premiums thrn you are forced into Obamacare.
Mandating organizations & churches cover something they disagree with? Forcing more & more people into Obamacare? The only way to stop this (and other) overeach is to vote to clown out!!!!

 

This is just one way the BO admin is going to manipulate every loophole possible to make sure each one of us eventually falls into the clutches of Obamacare (except for the groups who are exempted in return for their help getting it passed).

 

There are a lot of people that work for various churches who aren't believers in the tenets of the church. Why shouldn't churches be required to cover all forms of sexual health for those employees that don't follow the beliefs of the church?
Of course, I could never figure out why churches have to pay people to work for them anyway. I thought you were supposed to do things for the church because you loved god and not because they were paying you for it. Organized religion is all about profiting at the hands of the followers when you come right down to it. I am not saying this about belief, but about the organizations which tend to grow around it.

 

Spoken like a true ideologue.
What BO has dictated is wrong on 2 fronts. For one he over reaches into religion & has no right to mandate a church or religious organization pay for something that violates basic beliefs. Furthermore, this measure pulls even more of our citizenry involuntarily into the Obamacare bureacracy.

 

How exactly does it force people involuntarily into Obamacare. If the organization isn't going to pay for birth control then the people are going to have to go somewhere else anyway. This is just another example of religion wanting to be kept special and have special exemptions just because they are a religion. Religious organizations should have to follow the same rules as everyone else. If you allow them to avoid the rules they don't like then you are giving them special dispensation that they don't deserve.

There is a simple solution to the problem. Don't hire people that are going to want birth control or don''t provide benefits at all.

I did notice that it is mainly the Catholics raising a fuss about this because they don't like any form of birth control at all. This policy of their is a major contributor to the spread of AIDS and poverty. In fact, they even went as far recently as claiming that there were microscopic holes in condoms to allow AIDS to spread.

 

No, it isn't. The government violates the separation of church and state by providing special dispensation for religious groups. The major violation is the allowance of religious organizations to be free from taxes. Applying the law equally to all is the only way to truly honor the Constitution. You don't get to be exempt from the law because you are a believer.

 

We aren't talking about taxation (and I don't necessarily disagree with you, by the way), we are talking about gov't being able to force a church to pay for something it is opposed to. Doesn't that just sound wrong?

Oh, and the Church preaches abstinence as the best way to prevent unwanted births & the spread of STD.

 

If a church is run as a profit making organization then it should follow the same rules that others have to Ie pay tax and provide health care for it's workforce But here I think a line needs to be drawn as to what type of health care it should provide for me it should be job related and I do not think pregnacy falls under job related illness LOL

On the question of Aids the Catholic church has made some very stupid comments and here are a couple

Some have been more imaginative in their quest to spread the message against condoms. In 2007, Archbishop Francisco Chimoio of Mozambique announced that European condom manufacturers aredeliberately infecting condoms with HIV to spread Aids in Africa. Out of every 8 people in Mozambique, one has HIV.
It was Cardinal Alfonso López Trujillo of Colombia who most famously claimed that the HIV virus can pass through tiny holes in the rubber of condoms. Again, he was not alone. "The condom is a cork," said Bishop Demetrio Fernandez of Spain, "and not always effective."

These are people who's views affect the lives of millions of believers who do take what they say as gosspel!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/11/bad-science-pope-anti-condom
Now even the Pope has had to change his message on the use of condoms
The Rev. Federico Lombardi, the Vatican’s spokesman, said that for Benedict, the use of condoms by people infected with H.I.V. could be “the first step of responsibility, of taking into consideration the risk to the life of the person with whom there are relations.” “Whether it’s a man or woman or a transsexual,” he added
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/24/world/europe/24pope.html

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Other than the Catholics and some of the more extreme Christian off-shoots in this country, most religions do not have a problem with contraception. I don't know the exact breakdown of which religions forbid women to determine their reproduction and which ones don't have an issue with it but if you truly believe that contraception is against your beliefs, no one is forcing you to use contraception simply because it is covered by your insurance policy.
I have an insurance company that covers hysterectomies and thousands of other things I will never use and I pay for my insurance knowing that I will never use the vast majority of the things they cover. Why would it be any different for some religious group? If you don't believe in it, don't use it. An insurance policy is a package of covered services. Why should any church be able to pick and choose only the procedures they want to be covered? Isn't that forcing the insurance companies to push the church’s beliefs on policy holders? Isn't that the churches responsibility?