Bird flu pandemic Ha!

Has anyone else realized that this bird flu scare is just a ploy for the government to get even more control over us? The media seems to be playing along with it too. Even though only 60 people have gotten it so far, and that under very rare and unusual conditions. Pres. Bush is wasting even more tax money on his supposed stockpiling of flu vaccines. Now I know you left-wing nuts are going to start in on me over this, but I wanted to tell you something first: "SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!". Especially you, rick, you seem like a very big dope. If any of you liberals do post on this thread I'll come over to your houses and :computer: .


Regards,
CraigG

 

There is no vaccine for the bird flu and the flu vaccines themselves are a joke since they do not prevent current flu strains. Besides, the flu vaccines contain mercury in them as a preservative and mercury has been proven to cause a host of long term problems in people including cancer and nervous system damage.

I agree with you on this one that it is a big money maker for the vaccine people and the World Health Bank, which is a joke itself.

If you ever notice on TV when the bird flu does crop up, there is not a rush for needles but a rush on isolating the person and killing the birds.

 

You missed the point, Andy. This bird flu stuff is just smoke and mirrors. The
reason for it is so the government can get us to panic and agree to all these supposed necessary measures, which in reality just take away our freedom and liberty. Liberals like danr and moen want this to happen because they are lazy and they want the government to take care of them.

Regards,
CraigG

 

I see it as a way to give the drug companies money and you know one way or the other they will get money back from those companys. Both so called liberal and conservative politicans have been hired as lobbiests or board members of these companys when they give up or voted out of office. Never mind campaign funding that comes from them.

 

You're right. It's outrageous the way the drug, alcohol, and tobacco companies can pay off the politicians! :headbang: :headbang:
Washington, Adams, and Jefferson are probably rolling in their graves!
Why don't we do to these politicians what that other guy proposed doing to criminals?

Regards,
CraigG

 

all i got to say is.. SARS!!!!!

 

Same reason that happened as above.

 

I think you guys are off-base on this one. Pandemic flus are nothing to sneeze at. Perhaps your jaded assessments of this situation are influenced by the fact that governments so rarely prepare for national disasters ahead of time. The normal political protocol is to react to disasters, and react slowly and ineffectively.

As you know, the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918-1919 killed millions of people. It would be inappropriate to take comfort in the fact that the Spanish Flue occurred in an era before modern anti-biotics. There are no effective, common, antibiotics for viruses. Most of the victims of the Spanish Flue died of ancillary bacterial infections like pnemonia and tuberculosis. If a flu pandemic were to spread through western Europe and North America, one would have to assume that the normal supply of antibiotics sent to third-world countries would dry-up. There are a lot more people in the world now than in 1918. The effects of a serious pandemic would be catastrophic.

Flu viruses are very interesting pathogens. They mutate. The Bird Flu virus is know to be very deadly, about 50 percent lethal as I recall. The medical community is afraid that this flu will mutate, and thus be trnasmissible from human to human, and as an airborne pathogen. If it does, the human health risk goes through the roof. Be advised that the Spanish Flu virus eventually became an airborne pathogen. Airborne viruses reportedly infected humans living in isolated Eskimo villages in northern Canada, with a 75 percent lethality. Viruses can be carried on the wind, probably in the jet stream!

Doctors and pathologists are predicting that six million Americans could be killed by a contemporary Bird Flu pandemic. These are physicians, not politicians. For once, American politicians are actually paying attention to the medical community. Bio-statistics are effective. American pathologists are not publishing biased political polls. No, I think this stuff is real.

Finally, because of the onslaught of predatory lawsuits, American companies are unwilling to manufacture vaccines anymore. This is unacceptable. This nation absolutely needs the capability to produce vaccines of all sorts. It is as important as any national security issue.

 

Let me start off by saying I don't know IF this is a hoxe or not, but knowing what happened to 2 out of 3 families in 1918 is enough to make me believe what they spend preparing for the flu, is worth every cent spent. That is all I'll say on that subject.

Even I don't believe this one! No one would welcome anything like this on anyone else, or themselves, regardless of who they believe would take care of them. IF it should happen and your not prepared, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it except lay down and die. They tell me that is no fun!

 

No one? Islamic Jihadists would be dancing in the street if America was hit by a deadly flu epidemic.

Regards,
CraigG

 

CraigG - I agree. I'm hearing their not sure what medicines they have will work, and even if they do they can't make enough to do much good. I'm not hearing of any restrictions on travel to or from the infected countries, or restrictions of imports from those countries. Sounds like the boarders are wide open. The new media keeps showing the same chicken coop being sprayed over and over again, and people in white suits ripping the same chickens out of their nests. I think the news people are stalled waiting on their next batch of propaganda from our government. Me thinks its the "Chicken Little Syndrome of 2005". If it is true their sure not doing much other than scaring everyone. If its handled like Katrina were all gone anyway.

 

Big news here!

If the world has a Bird Flu pandemic, there will be a lot more Arabs die from it than Americans. The third world will be crushed.

Secondly, my dad lived through the Spanish Flue as a child in Pittsburgh, PA. He said that horse-drawn carts would wind their way through the alleys of Pittsburgh at night collecting the bodies of dead miners and steel workers. The immigrant Germans and Polish would die in flop-houses by the dozen. New immigrants would take their places before the bunks were cold. Americans are not accustomed to wagons of bodies moving down alleys at night. The wagons are gone, but the the viruses are still around.

The Plague of Athens in 200-whatever BC killed thousands. It came, killed thousands, and disappeared. To this day, no one knows what it was. Apparently, victims turned red and purple and died within hours. This is the nature of mutated viruses.

 

If? Hmm...
What if some terrorists smuggle a dirty bomb into America and detonate it?
What if Iran bombs Israel with nuclear weapons and then attacks America?
What if North Korea hits us with nuclear tipped ICBMS.
What if somebody crashes a plane into the White House?
These are all very real threats, but I don't worry about them much.
The bird flu thing is a scam, and I don't worry about it at all. Unless the government decides to help it along to get us even more scared...

Regards,
CraigG

 

Oh I know the potential of massive death on the global level from airborne virus. It is just that the flu is always multating into different strains and the vaccines are useless.

 

You know the potential? Why don't you enlighten us?

 

Vaccines are often effective.

 

Not for flu.

 

Strain is always changing so what we have is old stuff for something that is not around anymore.

 

Why is Kaiser Permanente so high on vaccinating its members? Where is the profit motive?

 

If the flu vaccine is effective, why is there always a flu season?