Are you a liberal?

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by snafu, Feb 8, 2008.

  1. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Overall: 95% Conservative, 5% Liberal

    Social Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

    Personal Responsibility: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

    Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

    Ethics: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

    Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal
     
  2. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    So what made you 25% liberal in the ethics? Was it health care too?
     
  3. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    Am I the only clear thinking moderate on a forum of right wing extremists? :D
     
  4. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Yes but I think that statment is debatable. :D
     
  5. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    I don't debate, I brow beat, personally attack, and cry victim if you dont bow to me. Hahahahahahaha :D
     
  6. BrotherMan

    BrotherMan The Man

    I took it again and got the exact same results...

    Here are the questions and answers... with my answers in red... Reasons for my answers or comments in green.


    then my results.


     
  7. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    1. Protecting the environment is a primary social responsibility we have, regardless of how it effects businesses.
    Not exactly
    True

    I picked true, hard to do business if people are dead.

    2. Immigration policies
    Should be less strict. Immigrants enhance this country.
    Should be more strict. Too many people enter illegally.

    Get them the hell out.. and don't let the door kick you in the ass. Apply legally if you want to live and work here. Course, I place most the blame on the people who hire them and a government who looks the other way.. without that, there is no problem other than shipping them out.

    3. Gay marriage
    Should be legal and given the same rights as heterosexual marriage.
    Should not be legal. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

    Marriage is man made, and a hinderence to two people being together in this day and age. There's a reason less and less young people are seeking permission to be together. Adam and Steve are fine by me.. Jesus doesn't hate gays..

    4. Public education could be improved by
    Having a voucher system
    Revoking No Child Left Behind

    Revoke NCLB now!!

    5. If you smoke marijuana...
    You should be punished with a slap on the wrist
    It's your business

    I don't need anyone slapping anything. Mind your own f*cking body unless I cause you harm directly related to smoking pot.

    6. Affirmative action
    Gives minorities and women a level playing field
    Is unfair, outdated, and hurts those with the most merit

    Unfair, outdated, and hurts the best man/woman.

    7. Carrying a gun is:
    Taking responsibility for one's own defense, and admirable
    Dangerous and sketchy

    Dangerous and sketchy as most peoples "protection" kills innocent bystanders and family members than actual criminals deserving of death. Don't ever plan owning one. Specially a handgun.

    8. Some people have less luck than others
    False
    True

    I thought about false then had a hard time thinking that little baby JFK JR. didn't have a bit more luck than little Charlie Manson who was sold by his prostitute mother. An infant can't make luck and it will certainly affect destiny.

    9. Social Security:
    Is simply a transfer payment that should be replaced by personal accounts
    Can easily be fixed by making the rich and employers pay more

    Picked the first, learingly..

    10. Taxes should be...
    Cut to stimulate the economy and give people more of their money back.
    Something the rich pay more of. They can afforded.


    Picked the first, but would choose neither really..


    11. It's more important for our country
    Reduce the deficit and national debt
    To help the poor and helpless

    Debt will be the death of the American dream

    12. The Fed should be more concerned with
    Controlling unemployment
    Controlling inflation

    Inflation.. :rolleyes:


    13. The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.
    False
    True

    They have a responsibility of total HONESTY before anything.

    14. Everyone has a right to health care, even if they can't afford it
    False
    True

    True.. I'm tired of peoples worth being shackled to money.

    15.All authority, by its nature, should be questioned
    False
    True

    Hell yeah!

    16. Abortion should be...
    Completely legal and available
    Restricted, discouraged, or illegal

    Ummmmmmmm.. :D

    17. Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.
    True
    False

    Never ok to kill people for any reason.

    18. The war in Iraq is justified
    True
    False


    Are you kidding? For what?


    19. The problem with the US justice system is:
    Too many plea bargains and loose interpretations of law
    Not enough rehabilitation and prisoner's rights

    Too many plea bargains.. but too many laws, too many prisons..

    20. The death penalty
    Is appropriate in select cases
    Is a violation of human rights

    Nope.. not a fan of the death penalty..
     
  8. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    1. Protecting the environment is a primary social responsibility we have, regardless of how it effects businesses.
    Not exactly
    True

    This is one of those questions that could've gone either way. It's not their primary responsibilty. They do have to make a profit also.

    2. Immigration policies
    Should be less strict. Immigrants enhance this country.
    Should be more strict. Too many people enter illegally.

    :rolleyes:

    3. Gay marriage
    Should be legal and given the same rights as heterosexual marriage.
    Should not be legal. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

    Gays should have the same rights. Dosn't mean churches should be required to marry them though.

    4. Public education could be improved by
    Having a voucher system
    Revoking No Child Left Behind

    The no child left behind only hinders other kids to excelrate. There was nothing wrong with the short bus.


    5. If you smoke marijuana...
    You should be punished with a slap on the wrist
    It's your business

    It's not saying whether we should enforce the law or not. It's a personal choice so its your own buisness

    6. Affirmative action
    Gives minorities and women a level playing field
    Is unfair, outdated, and hurts those with the most merit

    It's unfair, outdated and hurts those with the most merit.

    7. Carrying a gun is:
    Taking responsibility for one's own defense, and admirable
    Dangerous and sketchy

    Nothing sketchy about it. Self defense is a god given, constitutional right.

    8. Some people have less luck than others
    False
    True

    Ever here about the lottery?

    9. Social Security:
    Is simply a transfer payment that should be replaced by personal accounts
    Can easily be fixed by making the rich and employers pay more

    SSN is failing. Get into the private sector.

    10. Taxes should be...
    Cut to stimulate the economy and give people more of their money back.
    Something the rich pay more of. They can afforded.

    Cut taxes.. yes



    11. It's more important for our country
    Reduce the deficit and national debt
    To help the poor and helpless

    We can't help the poor if we're broke.


    12. The Fed should be more concerned with
    Controlling unemployment
    Controlling inflation

    You need to fix inflation first.



    13. The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.
    False
    True

    Opposite of the first question. They also have an environmental responsibly too.

    14. Everyone has a right to health care, even if they can't afford it
    False
    True

    Everybody deserves good health.

    15.All authority, by its nature, should be questioned
    False
    True

    Not only authority but any decision made by someone else for you.

    16. Abortion should be...
    Completely legal and available
    Restricted, discouraged, or illegal

    Illegal with charges of murder.

    17. Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.
    True
    False

    Most emphatically.


    18. The war in Iraq is justified
    True
    False

    Yes it defiantly was.


    19. The problem with the US justice system is:
    Too many plea bargains and loose interpretations of law
    Not enough rehabilitation and prisoner's rights

    Too many plea bargains but not enough rehab. mixed question but I don't care about the prisoners rights.

    20. The death penalty
    Is appropriate in select cases
    Is a violation of human rights

    Do the crime...get fried!
     
  9. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    I was thinking Snaf.. about abortion, one area we see differently.. I know you say it's a 50/50 affair whereas the man should have equal say and rights.. If it was illegal with criminal charges, how would the man be held equally accountable?

    Alls a mans gotta say is.. Prove it, I wanted to keep it, see ya, wouldn't wanna be ya. Believe it or not, there are men out there who'd sell there mother for a buck..
     
  10. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    My answers were the same as Brotherman and for the same reasons except this one:

    15.All authority, by its nature, should be questioned
    False
    True


    The question itself was too narow, but given a choice of either questioning authority or blindly accepting it, I would decide to question it. To me authority istelf does not mean your always right so there should be checks and balances, but as a rule we should not make it a habit of fighting authority just for the sake of fighting it.


    There is a time and place as well, for example, fighting a ticket on the side of the road is not the right time or place.
     
  11. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    If abortion was illegal? He can't abort the child on his own ( unless he used a smoothie) but if he were to coerce the women he should be charged for conspiracy to commit murder. If he slips her the morining after pill he would get the murder charge just like the guy did as the law stands now. 50-50.
     
  12. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    I think if their were more choices or rankings of importance on this test, I would have been more of a moderate conservative then as conservative as this showed.
     
  13. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Here is another quiz to gauge if you lean liberal or conservative. Still not perfect but a bit more to it then the last.

    Political Quiz

    I scored a 24. Puts me more conservative then Colon Powell and just shy of George Bush senior.
     
  14. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    Scored a 22 on that one.. Appears Colonoscopy Powell is the liberal, not me.. :D
     
  15. Old Salt

    Old Salt Big Time BS

    Slightly to the right of Jack Kemp (31)?
     
  16. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Hahaha... OK I'm just starting to take the test but... "which do you trust more the Pentagon or the US Postal Service"? Come on! :rolleyes:
     
  17. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Mine is at 22.
     
  18. eddo

    eddo I don't like you.

    1. Protecting the environment is a primary social responsibility we have, regardless of how it effects businesses.
    Not exactly
    True

    "Not Exactly"??? How is that a viable answer vs. "True"? I voted that way, because while I don't think a company needs to be deliberately trashing the environment, I don't think it should be their main concern.


    2. Immigration policies
    Should be less strict. Immigrants enhance this country.
    Should be more strict. Too many people enter illegally.

    Lock the door, then start working on sending the illegals here home and to the end of the "enter the country legally" line.


    3. Gay marriage
    Should be legal and given the same rights as heterosexual marriage.
    Should not be legal. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

    "Marriage" is between man and woman. If two gays want to have a binding legal contract between them, any paralegal can help them with that.

    4. Public education could be improved by
    Having a voucher system
    Revoking No Child Left Behind

    Technically I voted for the vouchers, but easily could have said both.


    5. If you smoke marijuana...
    You should be punished with a slap on the wrist
    It's your business

    As long as it is illegal, you should be punished for doing it.


    6. Affirmative action
    Gives minorities and women a level playing field
    Is unfair, outdated, and hurts those with the most merit

    It's unfair, outdated and hurts those with the most merit- and stupid.


    7. Carrying a gun is:
    Taking responsibility for one's own defense, and admirable
    Dangerous and sketchy

    Don't see very many shootings in army surplus stores. I wonder why that is?


    8. Some people have less luck than others
    False
    True

    Like Brotherman, I don't believe in luck. Life hands you all kinds of stuff- some good, some bad- deal with what you got.


    9. Social Security:
    Is simply a transfer payment that should be replaced by personal accounts
    Can easily be fixed by making the rich and employers pay more

    all for personal responsibility


    10. Taxes should be...
    Cut to stimulate the economy and give people more of their money back.
    Something the rich pay more of. They can afforded.

    again with the personal responsibility. Let me handle my money. If I blow it all on nachos and then can't afford the payment on my new house, then it's my own damn fault.


    11. It's more important for our country
    Reduce the deficit and national debt
    To help the poor and helpless

    I don't think it is the countries responsibility to take care of the poor. That's my job. and yours.


    12. The Fed should be more concerned with
    Controlling unemployment
    Controlling inflation

    I voted for Controlling inflation so it would keep minimum wage from ever being increased again.- personal responsibility. Not making enough money for a new house? better yourself so you can get a better job.


    13. The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.
    False
    True

    Companies are there to make money for the people invested in it.


    14. Everyone has a right to health care, even if they can't afford it
    False
    True

    I voted true on this one- because everyone deserves to be treated. This does not mean that I think everyone is entitled to health insurance, or cheap insurance if they are not doing their part to be living a healthy lifestyle.


    15.All authority, by its nature, should be questioned
    False
    True

    If the question said "All authority, by its nature, should be open to be questioned" my vote wold have been different. Just because authority is there does not mean I should question it. It is a privilege to have a job, and as such, my boss doesn't have to let me work there. He is my boss and I need to respect the opportunity he gives me to make a paycheck.


    16. Abortion should be...
    Completely legal and available
    Restricted, discouraged, or illegal

    abolutely


    17. Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.
    True
    False
    Yep. Sometimes it's good being the most powerful county in the world.


    18. The war in Iraq is justified
    True
    False

    Yep, Hussien had WMD (give me 10 years to hide something and see how well I do at it...) and he was an evil bastard. Iraq is better off without him.


    19. The problem with the US justice system is:
    Too many plea bargains and loose interpretations of law
    Not enough rehabilitation and prisoner's rights

    I'd add frivolous lawsuits to that as well..

    20. The death penalty
    Is appropriate in select cases
    Is a violation of human rights

    should be added for drug users. :p lol
     
  19. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    I guess I've changed my view on this a bit.
    Yes a marriage is between a man and a women but they should have the same rights. Not more rights but the same. And a church should not be made to condone or preform such unions.




    Bite your tounge!
     
  20. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    35..............
     

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