I can believe that the US basically knew that there was a high probability that Japan would attack in the Pacific. I can believe that Roosevelt wanted to get us into the war. I doubt they knew the time and place. But this is only more evidence to prove my point that non-interventionism is a better policy. Kras, I would have stood by and let the Russians and Germans annihilate each other in World War II if I had been president and could have negotiated something with Japan before Pearl Harbor.
Nice, but USSR do more to defeat fascist Germany than any other country. All USA did for long time was send aircrafts to bomb Germany while rest of troops enjoyed of pleasures of English women. Meanwhilse Soviets die everyday against fascists.
Aren't you forgetting that the USSR and the German fascists were on the same side at the beginning of WWII? So did you really do more to defeat them or empower them? It's not our fault that you and the fascists couldn't get along.
Oh, let us not forget French and British appease Hitler, give him Czechoslovakia, Austria. Nobody flinched when Fascist Germany militarized Rheinland. Hitler really wanted Britain as ally, Edward VIII even was friend of Hitler. Duchess of Windsor call Hitler "Nice man". Come on, everybody share blame here. Britain and France broke alliance with Czechoslovakia and let Hitler have it, rape it, kill it. Must not have been enough commercial interests there for be concerned with. By time of Poland invasion, British government as well as French governments change, but N. Chamberlain still in power until 1940. But Parliament tiring of Hitler. V. Molotov know from beginning he just buy time for USSR. Stalin? What can say for him? He was in haze for first week of war of 1941-45 and contribute nothing to USSR military during that time. In fact paranoid purges of 1937-1938 only served for Germany, and now it is suspected that German agents of Abwehr supplied information to NKVD which had so many USSR military people executed. Had Stalin lost power struggle to L. Trotskiy in 1924, USSR might have been better off. Better economy, better treatment of citizens, and no war with Fascist. Who knows?
Let us not forget sacrifice of USSR during war, citizens numbered over 10 millions killed when compared to say 250000 Americans, not that I want more Americans die, nobody should have died. But USSR sacrifice more. And USSR not forget who friends during war were, but Americans did.
But how many of those countries can say they once had Nazi Germany as an Ally? And it wasn't like the USSR wised up and turned on the Nazis, the Nazis turned on the USSR. So I believe that you have very little moral ground to stand on and preach to the rest of the world. How do you say Heil Hitler in Russian anyway?
You should have sacrificed more for climbing into bed with the devil. It was your own fault. We didn't help Hitler to power, you did. We weren't at war with him but we certainly didn't fight along side of him either.
Not so much, American servicemen are being killed for the sins of our leaders as we speak. It's an old story that gets repeated throughout history again and again. Some recognize it as it is happening and others are true believers and itch for the fight. Foreign opinions carry little weight as this all to familiar scenario is played out. Sorry to tell you this but you just sound like someone cackling from the sidelines.
Why should foreign opinion not count? Huh? Maybe you imperialists should have listened your allies France, Germany and let Iraq crumble within. But no, your president make it personal crusade, call France and Germany "Old Europe" and make Freedom Fries and Freedom Kissing etc. and even your bubbas in trailer parks mouth off of nuke France etc. How about you Moen, you willing go drive over land mine in Iraq? Come on, pony up! Maybe America should listen for change. Not such bad thing, everbody else listen to America, whether want to or not. Maybe if everbody listen everbody, then all be better.
Rheinland remilitarized , Neville Chamberlain and give away Czechoslovakia mean nothing? Come on, talk.
Thank God American servicemen are THERE killing these muslim animals instead waiting for these muslim animals to kill us HERE. What really makes you think that "true" muslims are NOT going to conduct their jihad if we were or were not in Iraq or Afghanistan?? You are forgetting...that to be a true muslim, you MUST convert, enslave, tax (jizya), and/or FIGHT infidels to find favor with allah. If you die in jihad, that is an automatic "Go Directly to Paradise and collect 72 virgins" from allah. It doesn't matter what kind of a scum bag life you lead before, allah finds favor in those that conduct jihad. It is a fact!, here's proof... The Koran has around 111 verses that deal with jihad, killing, and fighting...try reading what the terrorist mohammad started and you will have a better understanding why we must eliminate "true" muslims: Translation used: M. H. Shakir, published by Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, Inc., 1983, unless otherwise indicated. 002:178-179: [2.178] …retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain… [2.179] …there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves. 002:190-191: [2.190] …fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you…[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers. 002:193: …fight with them… 002:216-218: [2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you…[2.217]…fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter…persecution is graver than slaughter… [2.218]…strove hard in the way of Allah 002:244: …fight in the way of Allah 003:121-125: [3.121]…to lodge the believers in encampments for war…[3.123]…Allah did certainly assist you at [the Battle of] Badr…[3.124]…[3.125] Yea! if you remain patient and are on your guard, and they come upon you in a headlong manner, your Lord will assist you with five thousand of the havoc-making angels. 003:140: If a wound has afflicted you (at [the Battle of] Uhud), a wound like it has also afflicted the (unbelieving) people; and We bring these days to men by turns, and that Allah may know those who believe and take witnesses from among you… 003:155-156: [3.155] (As for) those of you who turned back on the day when the two armies met…[3.156] O you who believe! be not like those who disbelieve and say of their brethren when they travel in the earth or engage in fighting: Had they been with us, they would not have died and they would not have been slain… 003:165-167: [3.165]…you had certainly afflicted (the unbelievers) with twice as much [with Jihad]…[3.166]…when the two armies met ([the Battle of] Uhud)…[3.167]…Come, fight in Allah's way, or defend yourselves…If we knew fighting, we would certainly have followed you… 003:169: …reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord [meaning they are enjoying their 72 virgins in heaven]; 003:173: …Surely men have gathered against you [in battle]… 003:195: …who fought and were slain…I will most certainly make them enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; a reward from Allah, and with Allah is yet better reward. 004:071-072: [4.71] …go forth in detachments or go forth in a body [to war]. [4.72] …hang back [from Jihad] …not present with them [in Jihad]. 004:074-077: [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. [4.75]…fight in the way of Allah… [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Satan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Satan…[4.77] …when fighting is prescribed for them…Our Lord! why hast Thou ordained fighting for us? … 004:084: Fight then in Allah's way…rouse the believers to ardor maybe Allah will restrain the fighting of those who disbelieve… 004:089:…if they turn back [to their homes], then seize them and kill them wherever you find them… 004:091…seize them and kill them wherever you find them… 004:094-095: [4.94]…when you go to war in Allah's way… [4.95] …those who strive hard [Jihad] in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal…Allah shall grant to the strivers [i.e., Jihadist] above the holders back a mighty reward: *********************************************** And that is just a small sample! And you wonder why we are defending ourselves from these animals?? Islam IS what it IS. It is not just al-queda who conducts jihad better then most muslim groups, it IS the religion of islam we must fight against.
All I am asking is how our/my/ your?/the us government could let this terror group grow back again, after we quashed it? That has nothing to do with dictatorship on our part. We mustve kept an eye on Nazi Germany to ensure it wouldnt rekindle. Much to Old Dans chagrin. And I am talking about the on in recent news from Afganistan.
And if they can't or won't defend themselves and they are overrun with Al Qaida and they (Al Qaida) gain more land and oil rich reserves from these lands is that okay with you too? Are you capable of seeing it in THAT PERSPECTIVE? The perspective I am concerned with. Can you see beyond your comfortable life wherever you hide to realize that? I would hope to think you could, because in case you can't I am really in trouble more than I thought I was. Can you now see why I have been calling you Cloudedasssss?
Islam is terribly misunderstood. what does that have to do with the qusestion? So all that military might I saw, all those high mountian bombings all that gunfire We used to quell those terrorists in Afganistan. All that. And we(the US) report the taliban is over,done, kaput. It came back because we (I) dont understand the Islam religion. It had nothing to do with us turning our back on them to focus our attention on Iraq? Thanks for the heads up.
Yes. You are welcome. you know I didnt expect you to give me an answer. I was hoping one of these war hawks would chime in. But as usual, all I got was..''Islamics have beards''
You can not stop someone from becoming a terrorist, but you can give them a choice, educate them, make them want to achieve what you have, strangley enough avarice is a good way of preventing anyone going in the direction of terrorism. Except of course for the fanatics LOL OK now that said, the intial Taliban member was fairly well trained after years of fighting the Russians then Civil War, but with the attrition rate the newer members coming along are less effective, numbers alone do not mean everything. Here is a link to a news report highlighting this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/23/wafghan23.xml Most of the new recruits will come from Tribal allies (Mainly the Pashtun community) and as fighting is seen as a honrable proffession in Afghanistan you cant change that overnight. Please do not confuse the Talliban with other organisations such as Al Quaida, the Talliban opperate a guerrilla war, and do it quite effectivly but that is not the same as terrorism, also do not believe anyone who tells you that they are coward LOL far from it for the most part these guy's are very brave (if misguided) individuals.
I beg remind members here, that USA CIA trained many of people like Bin Laden and Al Qaida, and Talibs to fight in Afghan Republic against USSR. You reap what you sow.
