Adobe Bought Flash?

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by mimus, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. mimus

    mimus Guest

    When was that?

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  2. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

  3. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

    > mimus wrote:
    >
    >> When was that?

    >
    > http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html


    I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    even load Firefox directly.

    Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.

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    mp 10

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  4. Tim Weaver

    Tim Weaver Guest

    mimus wrote:

    > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >> mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>> When was that?

    >>
    >> http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html

    >
    > I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    > moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    > even load Firefox directly.
    >
    > Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.


    Adobe's stuff is more bloated than Microsoft's. I'll keep using Teh GIMP.
    --
    Tim Weaver

    I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
    but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not
    what I meant.
     
  5. On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:24:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >When was that?


    its part of the demon backed move im making in the image field

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  6. On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:56:54 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >> mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>> When was that?

    >>
    >> http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html

    >
    >I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >even load Firefox directly.
    >
    >Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.


    linux user.

    --
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    <This space for rent.>
     
  7. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mimus wrote:
    > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >>mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>>When was that?

    >>
    >>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html

    >
    > I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    > moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    > even load Firefox directly.
    >
    > Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.
    >

    That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!

    If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed
    and then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your
    package of surveillors.

    With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose
    the correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try
    different plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until
    firefox restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't
    even have to log out or become the superuser!

    LOL.

    --
    nuts

    PS: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
     
  8. Tim Weaver

    Tim Weaver Guest

    mixed nuts wrote:

    > mimus wrote:
    >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>>mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>When was that?
    >>>
    >>>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html

    >>
    >> I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >> moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I

    can't
    >> even load Firefox directly.
    >>
    >> Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.
    >>

    > That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    > symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!
    >
    > If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    > windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed
    > and then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your
    > package of surveillors.
    >
    > With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose
    > the correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try
    > different plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until
    > firefox restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't
    > even have to log out or become the superuser!
    >
    > LOL.


    I was thinking of trying a Linux system. But, two questions:

    1) Which package is the best for a first time installer?
    2) I assume I can boot it with Vista, yes?
    --
    Tim Weaver

    I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
    but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not
    what I meant.
     
  9. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:30:58 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

    > mimus wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>>mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>When was that?
    >>>
    >>>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html

    >>
    >> I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >> moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >> even load Firefox directly.
    >>
    >> Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.

    >
    > That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    > symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!


    It . . . said . . . it . . . was . . . the . . . Linux . . . version . .
    .. .

    ("Linux is the most self-incompatible OS I know." < Joerg Schilling,
    author of cdrecord, who has suffered greatly from it.)

    > If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    > windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed and
    > then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your package
    > of surveillors.


    Probably doin' that anyway.

    They apparently do not entirely deprecate web-designers locking the
    contents of their sites inside Macromedia's _proprietary_ Flash
    technology, so their morals are right up there with Microsoft's.

    Any such site gets an automatic "F" from anyone with any sense.

    > With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose the
    > correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try different
    > plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until firefox
    > restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't even have
    > to log out or become the superuser!
    >
    > LOL.


    There're some internal Linux OS differences involved, too, you
    know; eg, and in particular, binaries aren't necessarily cross-compatible.

    Although I suspect this is just the usual configuration problem, with my
    own suspicion falling at present on xpti.dat, which is probably wrong.

    <sigh>

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    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    When a system is set up to accomplish some goal, a
    new entity has come into being--the system itself.
    No matter what the "goal" of the system, it
    immediately begins to exhibit system behavior; that
    is, to act according to the general laws that govern
    the operation of all systems. Now the system itself
    has to be dealt with.

    < _Systemantics_
     
  10. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:29:56 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:24:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>When was that?

    >
    > its part of the demon backed move im making in the image field


    You're responsible for the streaming used for copyright protection, too,
    aren't you?

    Damn you and your pale-green henchmen.

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    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

    < _The Einstein Intersection_
     
  11. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:30:46 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:56:54 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>> mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> When was that?
    >>>
    >>> http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html

    >>
    >>I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >>moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >>even load Firefox directly.
    >>
    >>Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.

    >
    > linux user.


    No one considers "Breezy Badger" to be Linux. Apparently.

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    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

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    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

    < _The Einstein Intersection_
     
  12. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:31:36 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:

    > mimus wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>> mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> When was that?
    >>>
    >>> http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html

    >>
    >> I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >> moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >> even load Firefox directly.
    >>
    >> Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.

    >
    > Adobe's stuff is more bloated than Microsoft's.


    Microsoft should buy Adobe now and create the Bloated Empire.

    > I'll keep using Teh GIMP.


    I don't even understand 99% of the functions that gives you.

    Dear Lord.

    And I've never understood "layers"-- I mean, I understand the concept,
    I've just never been able to use 'em, either on Photoshop or Gimp.

    I'd settle for getting Gimp's "intelligent scissors" to work-- I got the
    cutout part, but could never get it to cut.

    Although the axial rotation functions look neat, too.

    (Not a priority, and so I let the mysteries ride.)

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    When a system is set up to accomplish some goal, a
    new entity has come into being--the system itself.
    No matter what the "goal" of the system, it
    immediately begins to exhibit system behavior; that
    is, to act according to the general laws that govern
    the operation of all systems. Now the system itself
    has to be dealt with.

    < _Systemantics_
     
  13. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    Tim Weaver wrote:
    > mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >>mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>When was that?
    >>>>
    >>>>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
    >>>
    >>>I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >>>moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I

    >
    > can't
    >
    >>>even load Firefox directly.
    >>>
    >>>Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.
    >>>

    >>That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    >>symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!
    >>
    >>If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    >>windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed
    >>and then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your
    >>package of surveillors.
    >>
    >>With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose
    >>the correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try
    >>different plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until
    >>firefox restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't
    >>even have to log out or become the superuser!
    >>
    >>LOL.

    >
    > I was thinking of trying a Linux system. But, two questions:
    >
    > 1) Which package is the best for a first time installer?
    > 2) I assume I can boot it with Vista, yes?


    1) a. I use Fedora partly because the IT geeks here support a lot of
    Redhat enterprise machines and Fedora is the same thing. The installer
    generally figures out the hardware perfectly with only a couple of
    exceptions - one time an on-board 100BaseT interface wouldn't
    initialize so I disabled it and plugged in a board, another time a
    fancy high-end graphics card was too gamey and wasn't supported well
    (funny rendering) so I sent it back and plugged in a Fire-GL.

    b. Open Suse seems to be similarly painless but I have only a little
    direct experience.

    c. Ubuntu is well loved by many - it smells a lot like windows which
    makes a lot of people happy. A few months ago I had to kick 2 machines
    off the network and cram a Fedora distrib. down the offender's throats
    because normal login was with root privilege - we have a shared server
    which (because we trust 'intelligent' people not to piss in their own
    boots) allows anyone logged into root to make maintenance-level
    changes. All you need is klutz with root permission to make a dumn
    mistake...

    d. I know happy slackware people. And Mandrake people. And BSD
    people. And happy other distrib. people - it's just that the center of
    mass for easy to install-debugged-tested stuff seems to favor a, b and
    c.

    2) GRUB (GRand Unified Boot thinger or the equivalent) will handle
    however many O/S you care to install. You can edit the config file
    after install to set defaults and preferences as you wish.
    It is wise, if you are not an experienced user of partition editing
    software and don't want to bruise your windows installation, to invest
    in something like 'Partition Magic' to make space on the disk for the
    Linux. Or you could add a separate drive and not have to touch windows
    space at all.

    --
    nuts
     
  14. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mimus wrote:
    > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:30:58 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >>mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>When was that?
    >>>>
    >>>>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
    >>>
    >>>I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >>>moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >>>even load Firefox directly.
    >>>
    >>>Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.

    >>
    >>That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    >>symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!

    >
    > It . . . said . . . it . . . was . . . the . . . Linux . . . version . .
    > .. .
    >
    > ("Linux is the most self-incompatible OS I know." < Joerg Schilling,
    > author of cdrecord, who has suffered greatly from it.)
    >
    >>If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    >>windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed and
    >>then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your package
    >>of surveillors.

    >
    > Probably doin' that anyway.
    >
    > They apparently do not entirely deprecate web-designers locking the
    > contents of their sites inside Macromedia's _proprietary_ Flash
    > technology, so their morals are right up there with Microsoft's.
    >
    > Any such site gets an automatic "F" from anyone with any sense.


    Mysterious flash files have appeared that contain encoded
    information. Sorta like cookies but with no limit on content, not
    readable by mere mortals but readable by _any_ site what knows the name
    of the file and how to decode it. I disable flash except when I want
    to view something specific.

    >
    >>With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose the
    >>correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try different
    >>plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until firefox
    >>restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't even have
    >>to log out or become the superuser!
    >>
    >>LOL.

    >
    > There're some internal Linux OS differences involved, too, you
    > know; eg, and in particular, binaries aren't necessarily cross-compatible.
    >
    > Although I suspect this is just the usual configuration problem, with my
    > own suspicion falling at present on xpti.dat, which is probably wrong.
    >
    > <sigh>
    >

    The shakers and movers at the top of the Linux hierarchy have been
    discussing a no-binaries allowed policy...

    Every so often somebody will ask me for help with a Linux problem and
    I'll suggest the obvious solution that would work for sure - and the
    file doesn't even exist on their system. Shrug.

    --
    nuts
     
  15. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:02:32 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

    > mimus wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:30:58 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>>mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>When was that?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
    >>>>
    >>>>I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >>>>moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >>>>even load Firefox directly.
    >>>>
    >>>>Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.
    >>>
    >>>That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    >>>symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!

    >>
    >> It . . . said . . . it . . . was . . . the . . . Linux . . . version . .
    >> .. .
    >>
    >> ("Linux is the most self-incompatible OS I know." < Joerg Schilling,
    >> author of cdrecord, who has suffered greatly from it.)
    >>
    >>>If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    >>>windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed and
    >>>then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your package
    >>>of surveillors.

    >>
    >> Probably doin' that anyway.
    >>
    >> They apparently do not entirely deprecate web-designers locking the
    >> contents of their sites inside Macromedia's _proprietary_ Flash
    >> technology, so their morals are right up there with Microsoft's.
    >>
    >> Any such site gets an automatic "F" from anyone with any sense.

    >
    > Mysterious flash files have appeared that contain encoded
    > information. Sorta like cookies but with no limit on content, not
    > readable by mere mortals but readable by _any_ site what knows the name
    > of the file and how to decode it. I disable flash except when I want
    > to view something specific.


    Wonderful.

    >>>With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose the
    >>>correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try different
    >>>plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until firefox
    >>>restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't even have
    >>>to log out or become the superuser!
    >>>
    >>>LOL.

    >>
    >> There're some internal Linux OS differences involved, too, you
    >> know; eg, and in particular, binaries aren't necessarily cross-compatible.
    >>
    >> Although I suspect this is just the usual configuration problem, with my
    >> own suspicion falling at present on xpti.dat, which is probably wrong.
    >>
    >> <sigh>

    >
    > The shakers and movers at the top of the Linux hierarchy have been
    > discussing a no-binaries allowed policy...
    >
    > Every so often somebody will ask me for help with a Linux problem and
    > I'll suggest the obvious solution that would work for sure - and the
    > file doesn't even exist on their system. Shrug.


    In my case Firefox apparently abended during the Flash upgrade and left my
    profile locked.

    So I just had to create a temporary profile, look around on the Web,
    spy the lock business, verify that was my problem, scrag the lock symlink
    in my profile directory, and voila.

    Unusually easy for a Linux snafu.

    (I still haven't figured out after about eighteen months how to get my
    CDRW to work-- the CDR is fine-- though I think I'm getting closer, ie
    I've decided I need a cdrecord reinstall, and there may be a permissions
    problem as well, cdrecord apparently needing root privilege . . . .)

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

    < _The Einstein Intersection_
     
  16. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:47:23 -0500, mimus wrote:

    > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:02:32 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >> mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:30:58 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>When was that?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >>>>>moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >>>>>even load Firefox directly.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.
    >>>>
    >>>>That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    >>>>symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!
    >>>
    >>> It . . . said . . . it . . . was . . . the . . . Linux . . . version . .
    >>> .. .
    >>>
    >>> ("Linux is the most self-incompatible OS I know." < Joerg Schilling,
    >>> author of cdrecord, who has suffered greatly from it.)
    >>>
    >>>>If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    >>>>windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed and
    >>>>then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your package
    >>>>of surveillors.
    >>>
    >>> Probably doin' that anyway.
    >>>
    >>> They apparently do not entirely deprecate web-designers locking the
    >>> contents of their sites inside Macromedia's _proprietary_ Flash
    >>> technology, so their morals are right up there with Microsoft's.
    >>>
    >>> Any such site gets an automatic "F" from anyone with any sense.

    >>
    >> Mysterious flash files have appeared that contain encoded
    >> information. Sorta like cookies but with no limit on content, not
    >> readable by mere mortals but readable by _any_ site what knows the name
    >> of the file and how to decode it. I disable flash except when I want
    >> to view something specific.

    >
    > Wonderful.
    >
    >>>>With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose the
    >>>>correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try different
    >>>>plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until firefox
    >>>>restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't even have
    >>>>to log out or become the superuser!
    >>>>
    >>>>LOL.
    >>>
    >>> There're some internal Linux OS differences involved, too, you
    >>> know; eg, and in particular, binaries aren't necessarily cross-compatible.
    >>>
    >>> Although I suspect this is just the usual configuration problem, with my
    >>> own suspicion falling at present on xpti.dat, which is probably wrong.
    >>>
    >>> <sigh>

    >>
    >> The shakers and movers at the top of the Linux hierarchy have been
    >> discussing a no-binaries allowed policy...
    >>
    >> Every so often somebody will ask me for help with a Linux problem and
    >> I'll suggest the obvious solution that would work for sure - and the
    >> file doesn't even exist on their system. Shrug.

    >
    > In my case Firefox apparently abended during the Flash upgrade and left my
    > profile locked.
    >
    > So I just had to create a temporary profile, look around on the Web,
    > spy the lock business, verify that was my problem, scrag the lock symlink
    > in my profile directory, and voila.
    >
    > Unusually easy for a Linux snafu.
    >
    > (I still haven't figured out after about eighteen months how to get my
    > CDRW to work-- the CDR is fine-- though I think I'm getting closer, ie
    > I've decided I need a cdrecord reinstall, and there may be a permissions
    > problem as well, cdrecord apparently needing root privilege . . . .)


    <groan>

    Spoke too soon. It's still leaving the profile locked on exit. Oh, well,
    at least I know how to unlock it, while in the meantime trying to work out
    what's happening.

    Gotta love it. But as little as possible.

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

    < _The Einstein Intersection_
     
  17. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:19:12 -0500, mimus wrote:

    > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:47:23 -0500, mimus wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:02:32 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>> mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:30:58 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>When was that?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >>>>>>moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >>>>>>even load Firefox directly.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    >>>>>symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> It . . . said . . . it . . . was . . . the . . . Linux . . . version . .
    >>>> .. .
    >>>>
    >>>> ("Linux is the most self-incompatible OS I know." < Joerg Schilling,
    >>>> author of cdrecord, who has suffered greatly from it.)
    >>>>
    >>>>>If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    >>>>>windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed and
    >>>>>then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your package
    >>>>>of surveillors.
    >>>>
    >>>> Probably doin' that anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>> They apparently do not entirely deprecate web-designers locking the
    >>>> contents of their sites inside Macromedia's _proprietary_ Flash
    >>>> technology, so their morals are right up there with Microsoft's.
    >>>>
    >>>> Any such site gets an automatic "F" from anyone with any sense.
    >>>
    >>> Mysterious flash files have appeared that contain encoded
    >>> information. Sorta like cookies but with no limit on content, not
    >>> readable by mere mortals but readable by _any_ site what knows the name
    >>> of the file and how to decode it. I disable flash except when I want
    >>> to view something specific.

    >>
    >> Wonderful.
    >>
    >>>>>With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose the
    >>>>>correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try different
    >>>>>plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until firefox
    >>>>>restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't even have
    >>>>>to log out or become the superuser!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>LOL.
    >>>>
    >>>> There're some internal Linux OS differences involved, too, you
    >>>> know; eg, and in particular, binaries aren't necessarily cross-compatible.
    >>>>
    >>>> Although I suspect this is just the usual configuration problem, with my
    >>>> own suspicion falling at present on xpti.dat, which is probably wrong.
    >>>>
    >>>> <sigh>
    >>>
    >>> The shakers and movers at the top of the Linux hierarchy have been
    >>> discussing a no-binaries allowed policy...
    >>>
    >>> Every so often somebody will ask me for help with a Linux problem and
    >>> I'll suggest the obvious solution that would work for sure - and the
    >>> file doesn't even exist on their system. Shrug.

    >>
    >> In my case Firefox apparently abended during the Flash upgrade and left my
    >> profile locked.
    >>
    >> So I just had to create a temporary profile, look around on the Web,
    >> spy the lock business, verify that was my problem, scrag the lock symlink
    >> in my profile directory, and voila.
    >>
    >> Unusually easy for a Linux snafu.
    >>
    >> (I still haven't figured out after about eighteen months how to get my
    >> CDRW to work-- the CDR is fine-- though I think I'm getting closer, ie
    >> I've decided I need a cdrecord reinstall, and there may be a permissions
    >> problem as well, cdrecord apparently needing root privilege . . . .)

    >
    > <groan>
    >
    > Spoke too soon. It's still leaving the profile locked on exit. Oh, well,
    > at least I know how to unlock it, while in the meantime trying to work out
    > what's happening.
    >
    > Gotta love it. But as little as possible.


    OK, for some beezarre reason the installer installed the .so file but not
    the .xpt file in my home .mozilla directory, although it seems to've
    installed both in the usr directory, so I killed the .so file in my
    ..mozilla directory forcing Firefox to look in usr and _now_ voila (tested
    repeatedly) . . . .

    Grrr.

    It's still not showing in my Firefox Plugins window, but it works, so, hey.

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

    < _The Einstein Intersection_
     
  18. On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:16:22 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:29:56 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:24:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>When was that?

    >>
    >> its part of the demon backed move im making in the image field

    >
    >You're responsible for the streaming used for copyright protection, too,
    >aren't you?
    >
    >Damn you and your pale-green henchmen.


    next stop, corel.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  19. On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:19:12 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:47:23 -0500, mimus wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:02:32 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>> mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:30:58 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>When was that?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that POS Flash in a
    >>>>>>moment of aberration and now not only do active links not work but I can't
    >>>>>>even load Firefox directly.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to make your
    >>>>>symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> It . . . said . . . it . . . was . . . the . . . Linux . . . version . .
    >>>> .. .
    >>>>
    >>>> ("Linux is the most self-incompatible OS I know." < Joerg Schilling,
    >>>> author of cdrecord, who has suffered greatly from it.)
    >>>>
    >>>>>If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk and reinstall
    >>>>>windows and wait 3 days while all the security patches got installed and
    >>>>>then reboot 3 or 2 times whilst macromedia added itself to your package
    >>>>>of surveillors.
    >>>>
    >>>> Probably doin' that anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>> They apparently do not entirely deprecate web-designers locking the
    >>>> contents of their sites inside Macromedia's _proprietary_ Flash
    >>>> technology, so their morals are right up there with Microsoft's.
    >>>>
    >>>> Any such site gets an automatic "F" from anyone with any sense.
    >>>
    >>> Mysterious flash files have appeared that contain encoded
    >>> information. Sorta like cookies but with no limit on content, not
    >>> readable by mere mortals but readable by _any_ site what knows the name
    >>> of the file and how to decode it. I disable flash except when I want
    >>> to view something specific.

    >>
    >> Wonderful.
    >>
    >>>>>With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions and choose the
    >>>>>correct plug-in for the version of firefox you have, OR try different
    >>>>>plug-ins (systematically or randomly as you prefer) until firefox
    >>>>>restarts properly. No need to start from scratch. You don't even have
    >>>>>to log out or become the superuser!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>LOL.
    >>>>
    >>>> There're some internal Linux OS differences involved, too, you
    >>>> know; eg, and in particular, binaries aren't necessarily cross-compatible.
    >>>>
    >>>> Although I suspect this is just the usual configuration problem, with my
    >>>> own suspicion falling at present on xpti.dat, which is probably wrong.
    >>>>
    >>>> <sigh>
    >>>
    >>> The shakers and movers at the top of the Linux hierarchy have been
    >>> discussing a no-binaries allowed policy...
    >>>
    >>> Every so often somebody will ask me for help with a Linux problem and
    >>> I'll suggest the obvious solution that would work for sure - and the
    >>> file doesn't even exist on their system. Shrug.

    >>
    >> In my case Firefox apparently abended during the Flash upgrade and left my
    >> profile locked.
    >>
    >> So I just had to create a temporary profile, look around on the Web,
    >> spy the lock business, verify that was my problem, scrag the lock symlink
    >> in my profile directory, and voila.
    >>
    >> Unusually easy for a Linux snafu.
    >>
    >> (I still haven't figured out after about eighteen months how to get my
    >> CDRW to work-- the CDR is fine-- though I think I'm getting closer, ie
    >> I've decided I need a cdrecord reinstall, and there may be a permissions
    >> problem as well, cdrecord apparently needing root privilege . . . .)

    >
    ><groan>
    >
    >Spoke too soon. It's still leaving the profile locked on exit. Oh, well,
    >at least I know how to unlock it, while in the meantime trying to work out
    >what's happening.
    >
    >Gotta love it. But as little as possible.


    ~I~ think that you should scrape your hardrive clean, install winXP
    Pro, and spend more time doing things than fixing your boxen.

    you have no idea of the ~power~ of the darkside, mimus.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  20. Once upon a time in a magickal land far far away the being called dave
    hillstrom stirred from its deep slumber and pronounced to usenet:

    : On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:19:12 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    : wrote:
    :
    : : On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:47:23 -0500, mimus wrote:
    : :
    : : : On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:02:32 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    : : :
    : : : : mimus wrote:
    : : : :
    : : : : : On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:30:58 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    : : : : :
    : : : : : : mimus wrote:
    : : : : : :
    : : : : : : : On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:44:13 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    : : : : : : :
    : : : : : : : : mimus wrote:
    : : : : : : : :
    : : : : : : : : : When was that?
    : : : : : : : :
    : : : : : : : :
    http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia.html
    : : : : : : :
    : : : : : : : I'd look at that except I just tried to reinstall that
    : : : : : : : POS Flash in a moment of aberration and now not only do
    : : : : : : : active links not work but I can't even load Firefox
    : : : : : : : directly.
    : : : : : : :
    : : : : : : : Adobe and Macromedia were made for each other.
    : : : : : :
    : : : : : : That happens all the time. You picked the wrong version to
    : : : : : : make your symbolic link to. HAHAHAHA!!!
    : : : : :
    : : : : : It . . . said . . . it . . . was . . . the . . . Linux . . .
    : : : : : version . . .. .
    : : : : :
    : : : : : ("Linux is the most self-incompatible OS I know." < Joerg
    : : : : : Schilling, author of cdrecord, who has suffered greatly from
    : : : : : it.)
    : : : : :
    : : : : : : If this were windows you would have to reformat your disk
    : : : : : : and reinstall windows and wait 3 days while all the
    : : : : : : security patches got installed and then reboot 3 or 2 times
    : : : : : : whilst macromedia added itself to your package of
    : : : : : : surveillors.
    : : : : :
    : : : : : Probably doin' that anyway.
    : : : : :
    : : : : : They apparently do not entirely deprecate web-designers
    : : : : : locking the contents of their sites inside Macromedia's
    : : : : : _proprietary_ Flash technology, so their morals are right up
    : : : : : there with Microsoft's.
    : : : : :
    : : : : : Any such site gets an automatic "F" from anyone with any
    : : : : : sense.
    : : : :
    : : : : Mysterious flash files have appeared that contain encoded
    : : : : information. Sorta like cookies but with no limit on content,
    : : : : not readable by mere mortals but readable by _any_ site what
    : : : : knows the name of the file and how to decode it. I disable
    : : : : flash except when I want to view something specific.
    : : :
    : : : Wonderful.
    : : :
    : : : : : : With Linux, you have two options: Read the instructions
    : : : : : : and choose the correct plug-in for the version of firefox
    : : : : : : you have, OR try different plug-ins (systematically or
    : : : : : : randomly as you prefer) until firefox restarts properly. No
    : : : : : : need to start from scratch. You don't even have to log out
    : : : : : : or become the superuser!
    : : : : : :
    : : : : : : LOL.
    : : : : :
    : : : : : There're some internal Linux OS differences involved, too, you
    : : : : : know; eg, and in particular, binaries aren't necessarily
    : : : : : cross-compatible.
    : : : : :
    : : : : : Although I suspect this is just the usual configuration
    : : : : : problem, with my own suspicion falling at present on
    : : : : : xpti.dat, which is probably wrong.
    : : : : :
    : : : : : <sigh>
    : : : :
    : : : : The shakers and movers at the top of the Linux hierarchy have
    : : : : been discussing a no-binaries allowed policy...
    : : : :
    : : : : Every so often somebody will ask me for help with a Linux
    : : : : problem and I'll suggest the obvious solution that would work
    : : : : for sure - and the file doesn't even exist on their system.
    : : : : Shrug.
    : : :
    : : : In my case Firefox apparently abended during the Flash upgrade
    : : : and left my profile locked.
    : : :
    : : : So I just had to create a temporary profile, look around on the
    : : : Web,
    : : : spy the lock business, verify that was my problem, scrag the lock
    : : : symlink in my profile directory, and voila.
    : : :
    : : : Unusually easy for a Linux snafu.
    : : :
    : : : (I still haven't figured out after about eighteen months how to
    : : : get my CDRW to work-- the CDR is fine-- though I think I'm
    : : : getting closer, ie I've decided I need a cdrecord reinstall, and
    : : : there may be a permissions problem as well, cdrecord apparently
    : : : needing root privilege . . . .)
    : :
    : : <groan>
    : :
    : : Spoke too soon. It's still leaving the profile locked on exit.
    : : Oh, well, at least I know how to unlock it, while in the meantime
    : : trying to work out what's happening.
    : :
    : : Gotta love it. But as little as possible.
    :
    : ~I~ think that you should scrape your hardrive clean, install winXP
    : Pro, and spend more time doing things than fixing your boxen.
    :
    : you have no idea of the ~power~ of the darkside, mimus.

    I've been dabbling recently with debian.
    did an update it told me was needed and it magickally changed my resolution
    to 640*480 without even consulting me.
    oh the deep joys of trying to reconfigure Xorg.conf in a root console - XP
    would be two mouse clicks and move a slider.
    still, it is certainly entertainment. not so much a learning curve as a
    mountain.

    --
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    Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)

    http://mar.exilenet.org:9042/listen.pls

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    ======================================================================
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    to do so, I do nevertheless apologize for Mr. Leyland, who seems
    convinced that anyone who might pass by this doorway to our little
    gallery is a child rapist. In a sense, he is much like the ratty
    kitty he claims to be in his interminable signature line ... he
    wanders about and stops occassionally at the stoop here to spray and
    defecate, then moves on and is gone for a few days or so ... no doubt
    spraying, defecating and retching up hairballs elsewhere ... then
    returns to mark his "territory" again. I realise he is little more
    than a malodorous nusiance, but a nuisance nevertheless."

    HMS Victor Victorian, pedophile, alt.fan.utb.naughty-boy
    ======================================================================
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    Steve Leyland is a trolling twat of the highest order. Killfile the
    muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
    UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

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    post in order to clearly demonstrate that you are the nemesis of
    Usenet: the crossposting, non-editing, diagram-creating worthless,
    dickless, brainless, gutless, mindless, ball-less, spineless, flaccid,
    obese, fish-belly pale, ugly, VD-ridden, moronic, bald, hunch-backed,
    flat-footed, odoriferous, obnoxious, fecal-smelling, buck-toothed,
    physically handicapped, fungus-infected, HIV positive, mud-packing,
    masturbating, whining, simpering, self-important, arrogant, egomaniacal
    POS that takes up more bandwidth than a despicable binary-poster, and
    for no apparent reason beyond seeing his own defecatory vomitus
    slithering down the screen in vile green rivulets."

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    ======================================================================
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    And saw what I never had seen;
    A Chapel was built in the midst,
    Where I used to play on the green.

    And the gates of this Chapel were shut
    And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
    So I turned to the Garden of Love
    That so many sweet flowers bore.

    And I saw it was filled with graves,
    And tombstones where flowers should be;
    And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
    And binding with briars my joys and desires."

    William Blake.
    ======================================================================
    "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this
    right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to
    seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and
    regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
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