Abortion Smoothie

Most, but not all "partial birth abortions" were banned by that supreme court decision, they are still performed in certain cases, and again, all that decision is based on is "one" form of abortion. Partial birth abortion was very popular because late term abortions can cause damage to the uterus, late term abortions using other methods are still very legal in America.

Please try to educate yourself if your going to try and call me out on my facts.

I was attcked and defended myself, are you now trying to clim the baby you killed attacked you first?

Stop trying to look for a way out of the mess you admitted to Wez, your a murderer, maybe not by American law standards, but in reality, you killed an innocent life for selfish reasons.

There is no comparison you can ever make with anyone else to equal something so horrible. This was your child, you killed something that was made from a part of you. If you are capable of killing your own child, your capable of any horrible act under the sun.

 

Does that hold true for soldiers as well? I'll promise to never agree to an abortion again if soldiers promise to never murder again.. Hows that?

 

So you continually bringing up something from TJ's past is you forgiving him? or is it you condemning him? I see it more as the latter.


Wez I don't judge you for your and Sasha's decision. It was an informed decision that you made as adults, and while I disagree with it, I don't condemn you for it.

I do, however, condemn our society for placing such little worth on a little life, and for cheapening the act of sex to little more than self-gratification.

Hell, it would be hard for me to think less of you anyway...

 

Then why'd you go to prison?

 

He's condemning me to try to make himself feel better.. That's what I'm trying to show him.. I don't condemn him for murdering a man and sending 4 people to the hospital, it's the opposite.

And I haven't "continually" brought sh*t up.. I asked him once, he ignored. I didn't say another word till he started up the condemnation..

 

There's a difference. American Soldiers kill in defense of our country. To protect our way of life.

You murdered for your own comfort, so you wouldn't be inconvenienced by being forced to raise and care for the child that you, apparently irresponsibly, helped create.

 

This is what I was addressing :

Originally Posted by ImWithStupid
a fetus must not be a life or it would be illegal to abort it,

I will not be endorsing abortion because a bunch of politicians say it is legal.

 

The difference is hypocrisy..

 

Just as I will not endorse war cause a bunch of politicians say it's ok..

So, life = fertilized egg? Why are the parts not considered life?

 

so, you're admitting to being a hypocrite. good. so long as you realize it.

 

No, you are.. I don't consider a fertilized egg, life, you do, but I do know that people that die in wars are life.. You're the hypocrite, not me. Why not = concern for what you consider "life"?

 

a single sperm, like a single ovum is not viable, either alone could not become a baby. However a fertilised ovum is viable

 

You're not understanding the difference morally between killing and murder.

 

Obviously, not viable cannot become viable.. A single ovum and a single sperm must have the viability for life, or else they could not produce a viable life when joined together.

 

What is the difference?

 

Thats fine by me Wez, there are many wars that I would disaprove of, and some I would approve of, the defining thing for me, is why a war is being fought.

A sperm like an ovum is not viable. Alone they can only die. They cannot become a baby alone ever.

A fertilized ovum if nurtured and cared for will become a little person.

I dont think its helpful that you and TJ have been called murderers. We are here to debate. I hope the namecalling stops now.

 

Where in the hell did you ever get that idea?

Sometimes I wonder at the way your mind just vomits up garbage for you to post here.

I did have a hearing (almost all officer involved deaths have these) and during that hearing, some people attempted to make me sound like the bad guy, but I was never in "trouble" and I finished out ten years before going in a new direction with my life.

Your only saying that to avoid admitting your more messed up than everyone you attack.

You kill an innocent life for selfish reasons but your too cowardly to own up to your actions, so typical of you liberals.

But guess what, you cannot hide behind semantics on judgement day my friend.

 

Yes it can, it happens at ferilization.

No, a single sperm cannot become a baby, nor a single ovum

 

So you are showing him his errors in condemnation by condemning him? That is completely bogus. Honestly, how TimesJoke does or does not behave has nothing to do with how you respond to him. Plain and simple, you are doing it just to be back on the attack, instead of just furthering healthy and decent discussion.

and for the record- You are doing the same thing TJ and Brotherman. Name-calling has no place in debate, and neither does taking attacks to a personal level.

I completely agree with this.



Having said all that:

Wez, I get your point about people killing in wars vs. abortions. Both involve the ending of human life (in abortion that is always an innocent life, and in war many casualties are innocents as well.) I often struggle with this idea myself.

But- in war there is a purpose- especially from the standpoint of America. Defense and protection come to mind.
The main purpose for aborting a little baby is to shirk responsibility that often times could have been prevented before hand.

 

I don't have a problem with that, I thought it was ok for me to return the favor after being called a murderer..

So one cell is not a life and another is because it has a different pattern of growth and eventual death? Seems together, they can only die as well..