Abortion Smoothie

Discussion in 'Politics' started by snafu, Dec 1, 2007.

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  1. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    Had scrambled chickens for breakfeast.
     
  2. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    I hope you didn't share them with your pet chicken. That's just mean.
     
  3. BrotherMan

    BrotherMan The Man

    I know a couple of women and a few girls who have gotten abortions. Not ONE of them would do it again if they were faced with that decision again. I know alot of women who went ahead and had the kids that they were pregnant with. The greatest enjoyment that they've ever experienced were when they saw their kids for the first time. When they saw them walk for the first time. When they hear "I love you momma." Greatest moments of their lives. Think about that.
     
  4. BrotherMan

    BrotherMan The Man

    Ok... off the mushy side. Abortion is most definately murder. This guy should be hanged. He forced abortion on the baby. Women do this all the time, and they should also all be hanged. Even the ones that feel bad about it. Even the ones that regret it. Sounds harsh? So does murder.
     
  5. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    In reality, I too, have had several close, female friends who have had abortions, based on life's convenience. Every one of them, later in life, when they had children, regretted their "choice" when they were young.

    More then one, needed several years of therapy to realize that was the root cause of their issue, whether it be depression or ptsd or whatever. I also noticed that the ones who had the most problems later, were the ones who were pressured into having an abortion by either the baby's daddy or their own parents.
     
  6. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    The woman did have a choice of what she does with her body when she agreed to have risky sex. She put her life in danger as well because if she gets pregnant, she could also be exposed to many diseases.

    An abortion is nothing more than a way for the woman to escape taking responsibility for the "choice" she already made but regretted later.


    As already stated, it took a man to create that life as well but women remove the man's rights to say what happens to something that is 1/2 his. It is his child, why should anyone have the right to kill a child?

    Another point, why is a man held responsible for supporting a child if he has no say about it being killed? Kinda one sided right?

    Already covered, the woman already made the choice to have risky sex, her choice happened "before" the life was created.

    So you want baby killings to be legal because the killers will put their own lives in danger to kill them????

    Make it easier for killers to kill?


    *Most women who get abortions already have kids and have never been married.

    *Most abortions happen with women who used either no protection, or did not use it consistantly the moth they conceived.


    Rape accounts for very few abortions so it is not even a real consideration, but it is used to deflect attention away from the real issue of women killing children for irresponsible reasons.





    I know several women who had abortions and later had mental issues because of it. When a woman gets pregnant, her chemical balances go all over the place and the time pressures make it impossible for her to make a wise decision. The pressure is incredible and even a married couple will get scared.

    Sometimes we need to protect people from themselves. A pregnant woman could qualify as being mentally imbalanced, so why allow her to make such drastic decisions when she is impared? We are simply creating a generation of women who believe abortion is nothing, killing a life is without meaning.

    I saw a bumper sticker the other day, it read:


    If you can read this,
    Your mother did not abort you.
    Maybe you should go give her a hug.
     
  7. Anna Perenna

    Anna Perenna Big Time BS'er

    Not even drunk driving?

    Mother, mother, mother.

    Why is it all about the mother's initial irresponsibility, and her subsequent responsibility to keep the baby?

    Why is the onus (not to mention the blame) always on the mother - but it's the father's indignity if she chooses not to keep it?

    What about the millions of men who want their girlfriends, wives, etc to have abortions? I'm sure the perpetrator in the article at hand isn't the only man on earth who hasn't wanted to be a father.

    Great idea. You should start a campaign asking all men who aren't ready to be fathers to keep their dicks in their pants. I fully support you. I'll start a complementary campaign asking women to abstain.

    Let's see how it goes.

    While it's inside her body, I think it belongs to her, and the law seems to agree with me. Like I said, people don't want to accept this very simple truth, but it's something that needs to be accepted.

    I have personally never heard the argument that a foetus is not a "human being". I have heard that an early stage foetus is simply a lump of cells that cannot think or feel - therefore, it doesn't know what pain is, and has no concept of life/death.

    Snafu, I understand your sympathy for the unborn child, but where is your sympathy for the mother who has been raped?

    Why should she endure 9 more months of torture, carrying the baby of a rapist? Hasn't she been through enough?

    So, you don't support women who don't want children, but you do support men who want to be dead beat Dads? Geez.

    Obviously, the man tricked her body into aborting not one but two children. She had no idea it was happening, and nor did anyone else.

    You can't compare the two situations with parity.

    Again, the focus of the blame is on the mother. Where are all the fathers in this Alan Guttmacher Institute?

    And who the **** is Alan Guttmacher?

    I'm more concerned about the innocent women and children who have been killed in Iraq since 2002. The headcount is also much higher than 3000 ...

    So, once again, it's all about the mother, the mother, the mother.

    Lucky her, she gets the responsibility and the blame - and the poor father gets to be the victim, no matter what her decision is.

    But wait a minute, according to you guys, she shouldn't be allowed to have that decision, either.

    Thanks for the token nod to the fact that women do have much more at stake physically (in fact it's about 100% more) but that does not mean that women should have to be more considerate sexually. Women have sex drives, just like men. Women are human, just like men. You can't place all the blame and all the (before and after) responsibility on women's shoulders, and all the aftermath martyrdom on men's shoulders. That's crap.
    Unless you are willing to give women more, you shouldn't be allowed to expect more from them.

    Something to consider:

    A man, Dr. Bernard Nathanson, coined the phrase "pro-choice".

    Care to prove that?

    Well, apparently, it's only his child if he wants it.

    Other than that, it's all the mother's responsibility, and of course, fault.

    Actually, nobody has proven that he has no say.

    I personally believe that the final decision (if the two parents can't agree) should be given to the mother. That's all.

    As far as I'm aware, abortions are already legal, so why would I want what I've already got?

    Stop making assumptions.

    What I want is for pompous men to a) stop imposing double standards on women, and to b) stop being so hard on women in general.

    They are being painted as cold blooded killers in this thread, which is seriously unfair.

    Where are you getting your statistics from?

    And who are these women conceiving moths?

    Again, it's the focus is on women killing children. The men have absolutely nothing to do with the killing, right? :rolleyes:

    Care to prove that?

    You are arrogant, offensive, and clearly unqualified to make a claim like this.

    Also, please learn how to spell "impaired" if you want me to believe you are qualified to make an opinion on impairment.

    Again, care the prove this?

    But don't hug your father?

    I think the bearer of that sticker should go f**k a crucifix.
     
  8. sheik-yerbouti

    sheik-yerbouti Big Time BS'er

    Originally Posted by sheik-yerbouti
    I disagree. No one owns you, me, or anyone else. Slavery was abolished many years ago for good reason.

    Anna :While it's inside her body, I think it belongs to her, and the law seems to agree with me. Like I said, people don't want to accept this very simple truth, but it's something that needs to be accepted.

    I disagree, the unborn child does not belong to the woman. No one belongs to anyone- thats called slavery. You do not have a right to treat your imaginary slave anyway you like.

    I dont care what the politicians/feminist lobby groups have determined to be the law. The law is an ass. Murder is murder.


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    Originally Posted by sheik-yerbouti
    Neither can I go for the belief that a foetus is not a human being. Do you really believe that a (+1 day old baby) is human, but a (-1 day old is not) ? This is just a self serving argument used by pro abortionists to excuse their behaviour.

    I have personally never heard the argument that a foetus is not a "human being". I have heard that an early stage foetus is simply a lump of cells that cannot think or feel - therefore, it doesn't know what pain is, and has no concept of life/death.

    But that is exactly what your argument is. You beleive that the unborn child is not human, therefore is perfectly alright to murder the child.

    All animal lifeforms begin as a few cells, that does not detract from what those cells are - a growing baby.

    I matters not if the baby has no concept of thought, fear, pain or feeling, You are steering yourself away from the truth you do not wish to confront. The simple truth is that an unborn child is a human being, and should not be murdered at anyone's convenience.
     
  9. BrotherMan

    BrotherMan The Man

    What you're not getting her Anna, is that we're blaming everyone equally. If you see "so abortion is OK, but a man not wanting a child makes him a deadbeat" somewhere... We're trying to point out the ironic nature of the whole situation. A woman can claim "it's my body, it's my right to abort if I want to" but if a guy says "I don't want that child" he has to pay child support for 18 years of the kid's life. I still think he's an ass, but why should she get a 'free pass' as it were? You see the point? Or are you too blinded by the feminist garbage you've been spouting?
     
  10. wez

    wez Big Time BS



    Perhaps if you grew and sh*t out a 10# sack of potatoes in your body you could put yourself on equal footing when it comes to childbirth..

    Don't forget, you'll be expected to nurture and love those taters every minute of every day for at least 18 years because of the bond you'd feel by growing them in your body .. Take a look at history.. Men cannot understand what they cannot experience firsthand.


    A women who wants a child can be artificially inseminated, they don't need our muscles and might = right theory anymore.. Better wake up.
     
  11. BrotherMan

    BrotherMan The Man

    this isnt about artificial insemination or any of that. This is about abortion. Please keep the moronic comments to yourself.
     
  12. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    When you have a choice between giving birth and aborting yourself, you'll have some credibility on the subject.
     
  13. sheik-yerbouti

    sheik-yerbouti Big Time BS'er

    I have a friend who had an abortion in her late teens. She was pressurised to do by doctors, and the thought of other peoples disaproval. A few weeks after the termination she developed schizophrenia. It has never left her to this day.

    I have also heard of another lady this happened to.
     
  14. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    I understand that, some people are unstable period. I know of women who have kids and regret it every day of their life and are utterly depressed and haven't recovered to this day. Some mothers go so far as to kill their children after they're born. I don't know whether it's becoming more frequent or just being reported more frequently but it's happening everywhere. I know plently of women who have had abortions and although feel sad, know they made the best decision for themselves.
     
  15. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Yes excatly. The whole thread was to point out he irony of him getting the first degree murder charge (which in my opinion is just), but it's perfectly acceptable for the women.
     
  16. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    There's a big difference between a consious choice for yourself and someone making a choice for another without their knowledge and slipping them drugs..

    First degree murder will not stand, it can't under current law.
     
  17. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    That's the facts of life. Women have a reproductive sytem. We don't. And I don't think she would be able to **** out a 10 pound sack of potatos either.
     
  18. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Again we were pointing out the irony. I totally agree he endagered the women and killed the fetous. He should get life in prison for his actions.
     
  19. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    True.. then you'd have to piss them out through your ureter like a women does, OUCH!! .. :D
     
  20. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    He should go to prison for many things, but first degree murder will not stand..
     
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