A brief reminder....

..... Abbey Gate.

Some things matter.

 

Thank you, Charley. I’m happy you posted that.

 

Thank you, that is kind.

I do that kind of stuff and have my entire life. I have a love of all history and especially military engagements that at first glance don't mean much but actually had a serious history changing impact.

 

Class, do you recall who made that lousy pull out deal that Joe inherited?

 

Do you recall Trump providing the Taliban with a timeline for extraction . . . Grasshopper?

 

Yeah

There's argument Biden could have (should have, in hindsight) called off the deal, but it happened.

 

Gold Star mom reveals what Trump told her on third anniversary of son's death in Afghanistan withdrawal

Monday marked three years since the suicide bombing at the Kabul airport killed 13 American service members

August 27, 2024

Gold Star mom Paula Knauss Selph lambasted the Biden administration for continuing to evade accountability as she and other Gold Star families Monday marked three years since the terrorist attack at Afghanistan's Kabul airport that claimed the lives of 13 U.S. service members.

"On this day in particular, we are all grieving over something that should have never, ever happened the way it did," Selph, whose son, Army Staff Sgt. Ryan Knauss, died in the botched withdrawal, said on "America Reports."



"It’s the lack of accountability that has really upset the nation on this. It is the lack of empathy and sympathy for a situation…at least say I’m sorry," she added. "At least apologize for a lack of leadership."

The grieving mother said Biden's chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal cost the United States its credibility on the world stage, echoing former President Trump who told a crowd earlier Monday that foreign leaders and bad actors no longer "respect us."

"He’s right. We lost a lot of credibility in our nation and in our world powers," she told Fox News co-anchor Sandra Smith. "We have lost it. And the only way we will gain it back is if we become a world power again."

Moments earlier, Trump laid wreaths at Arlington National Cemetery Monday to honor the fallen soldiers killed in the suicide bombing at Afghanistan's Hamid Karzai International Airport. A clip on "America Reports" showed the former president placing flowers at the grave of Selph's son.

"He [Trump] called me right after that, and he expressed his sorrow at the fact that he would have to do that," Selph revealed. "He reminded me that there are good leaders in our nation who will step up when the time comes [and] we will all be grateful when the change of hand happens."



House Speaker Mike Johnson announced Monday that he will present the Congressional Gold Medal to the families who lost loved ones in the Kabul airport attack.

Selph said the decision "brings honor" to the 13 grieving families.

"It brings honor to our nation," she told Smith, adding, "we will not forget."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/gold-...anniversary-sons-death-afghanistan-withdrawal

 

In the possibility that anyone is interested, some of the "ornaments" on the Dress Blues are:
CIB
CAB (there is a difference... a big one)
Purple Heart
Bronze Star
8th Psyops (an offshoot of the old 4th Gp. (not an easy course to pass at all)
501st of the 82nd.
Ranger.
NATO Forces Medal

All had nothing to do with Abbey Gate and all were issued prior to that Action.

So....think what you will.

 

Yep...you win the Annoying Star.

I am proud of you.

 

Yup. Liar in chief fully intended to renig on the deal if he survived. Like his entire life. But Joe had to stand up for the full faith and credit or our international reputation. Plumpy pooped a Poison pill. This is how he does biz. Laugh off contracts and 'renegotiate' them when payment time comes after the work is done. I am not going to go back and represent it, but it was something over 3000 lawsuits from contractors for basically non payment contract violations at the time of his election. So many people/lives/businesses financially destroyed for his failed ventures. Solely for his $ benefit. He should be imprisoned for that alone.

He played with our nations good standing in the international community and sold it out for any personal gain he could. Every time all the time.

Our good standing which BHO had to earn back after GW's debacle in response to 9/11.

Joe has been recovering from this even in the minefield left by the leader of legless larvae league.

But sure, hang this albatross on Joe.

 

Please tell us EXACTLY what was lousy about Trump's pull out! Was it the fact that we would sill control the largest airbase in the region rather than having it eventually turned over to CHINA?

I don't expect you or any ignorant, non-engaged, members who might read this reply to answer my direct question.
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Wading through ignorant chatter is like mucking out a crap hole.

 

Really...so what EXACTLY was that time line?

BTW, I'll bet you and your ilk are unaware that Trump called the terrorist leader and showed him a picture of where he was living. I guess he didn't get the message immediately and asked Trump why the image was sent. Note that NO AMERICAN SOLDIER was killed after that call INTIL the Biden Administration.

 

@freshmeat

You wrote: "Laugh off contracts and 'renegotiate' them when payment time comes after the work is done. I am not going to go back and represent it, but it was something over 3000 lawsuits from contractors for basically non payment contract violations at the time of his election. So many people/lives/businesses financially destroyed for his failed ventures. Solely for his $ benefit."

This is true, proving that even an old pig with a stopped up nose will eventually find a truffle! Congratulations, you should have stopped with this because the rest is...
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Trump would not have allowed the disaster to occur. Simple as that.

Joe Biden's military advisors, EVERY SINGLE ONE, told him that they were unprepared, but he pushed through anyway.

Kamala was the 'last person in the room'.

We essentially handed the Taliban, and by proxy, HAMAS the American weapons that were used to massacre Jews and Arab Israelis over the past year.

This country under Democrat foreign policy exudes weakness, creating the impetus Putin used to get into Ukraine (among the most corrupt nations on Earth) and the ability for China to increase tension on the Taiwanese independence movement. The Leftie foreign policy mess weakens America, promoted Iran and empowered them, and killed 13 Americans.

"b-b-but mean tweets and my right to murder babies!"

 

StankyBoy, posted: Joe Biden's military advisors, EVERY SINGLE ONE, told him that they were unprepared, but he pushed through anyway.

You will get no reply to this post from any of the worthless members here. THAT"S BECAUSE THEY ARE IGNORANT PROPAGANDISTS who stumble on to a something true every so often ...or enemies of America!

 

So tell us about murdered babies. But first, for your own protection, go figure out what a baby is.

 

I WAS WRONG! While avoiding the truth about the pull-out and debating the subject, I smell this spin and duck:

freshmeat, posted: " So tell us about murdered babies. But first, for your own protection, go figure out what a baby is.

For any lurkers who are as dumb as those progressive WOMEN we see in Congressional Hearings who don't know OR worse yet, will not admit that a woman is an adult female:

Babies are very young humans that were born from human females we call mothers or surrogates.

NOW, make my day: SPIN AND DUCK THIS: As for murdered babies, which do you mean? Muslim, Jewish, American or all of them?

 

When a woman says she’s pregnant with a baby, when she says she’s carrying a baby, when the doctor looks at the sonogram and says “it’s a boy” or “it’s a girl”, that is long standing parlance . . .

As opposed to the Steinhemesque position that it’s not a baby yet, so it’s okay to kill it, again confirming that the Democrat Party shuns accountability.

You go figure it out . . .