You're "pretty sure" they've all been accounted for.? So...you don't actually know. Is that because you aren't capable of finding the information on your own?...or what? They either were found Davey, or they were not, and there is a specific number of what those boxes, if found, would be. We don't need science to determine whether or not they were or were not found, nor how many there are/were supposed to be. See...you can't even answer a simple question about a simple thing like this, yet you pretend you know what did or didn't happen on 9/11. Is the sky blue sometimes Davey? Can you answer that one? You're a bad joke.
I'll take the "or what" option. Hey, shouldn't you be leading charge to free those innocent terrorists since 9/11 was all George Bush's doing? Why don't you call on BO & Holder to go ahead & prosecute Bush since you personally have so much evidence against the guy. Heck, you can be the star witness!!
You're a fraud Davey. Bye Davey. My apologies to the forum for trying to engage this nitwit in intelligent dialogue.
Face it....you came to a conclusion based on hatred and now you seek "evidence" that supports your conclusion. Nothing more. You're like a kitten chasing a ball of string, amusing yourself for hours.
FBI agent spills the beans I know, I know, the FBI is lying too, but for those that actually use their brain. The FBI
Just curious, Tom, but what makes this guy any more believable than Thomas H. Kean, John F. Lehman, Jamie S. Gorelick, Marco A. Cordero, Antwion M. Blount, George W.Delgrosso, Lance Cole, Philip Zelikow, and many, many more? My guess is that the only thing is he agrees with your side.
Just one more rebuttal of the made up story we were all told about that day, this time, from an FBI agent. It fits with what I know about what actually happened, not what we were told. Do I believe what people like this guy claim happened, combining that with the endless list of evidence, eye witness testimony, and the hundreds of easily verifiable things that show what 9/11 actually was, or the easily discredited "story" of cave dwellers using box cutters? Easy decision for anybody that cares to take an honest look. I guess you can choose to believe whatever you like, as you obviously have. I approach the whole thing by first verifying the story the government tells us, and looking for proof to the contrary, (like this gent for instance), in combination of all the other things I am able to easily find that also suggest something other than the great 9/11 hoax that non thinking individuals choose to believe for whatever convenient reason that works for them. It's extremely easy to do. You can accept whatever you're told if you like. I choose not to, and find more stuff every day that adds to the pile. This is just one more item on the pile of evidence that suggests the government's story is completely bogus. No "one thing" proves the case, but the multitude of things collectively does quite convincingly and easily. On the other hand, I have a real difficult time trying to validate any one aspect of almost any one thing that the government told me happened that day.
Hey guys, I thought TomC was a kook at first on this subject, then did my own HONEST digging, so, call me a kook, I am with Tom on this one.
Thank you Jack. You're apparently the only one here with the integrity to say so, and to take an honest look for yourself. I have misjudged you sir. There are people on the right that I can respect, of which you are obviously one. I was wrong for over generalizing all folks right of center to be something other than rational and sane. I apologize for all of my past transgressions to you personally. I mean that. You're ok, and thanks for showing me something different than I've been accustomed to. Peace!
tom, this should make you see how demented you are. You hated everything about Jack until he agreed with you on a singular subject now you're in love with him. So tell us, is it conservatives you despise (as you've said a thousand times) or simply people who don't share your obsession with 9/11 conspiracy theories? As I recall, you took some pretty nasty shots at Jack for his income, political views and even his offer to help you make something out of your life.
My one and only response to you Davey. I still despise the right wing hacks. I took a lot of shots at Jack and he has me as well. I do respect the man because he's honest enough to look at the whole 9/11 thing with an open mind, and he is honest enough to say so. That's called integrity, and that's a thing I haven't seen yet from people on your side of the political fence. I don't agree with his political party's hijacking of the country or rape of our society, but, that's for him to figure out I guess. He's severely misguided and stone cold wrong on his admiration of that party, but, I guess everybody's entitled to their opinion. Most of the right wing hacks (like you for instance) refuse to even acknowledge that 9/11 could be anything other than the exact thing we were all told it was... cave dwellers with boxcutters that evaded the entire US military and disabled it's defenses for 60-120 minutes (depending on what version of NORAD's story you choose to pick from). When I see some honesty on your side of the aisle, I'll take a look too (fat chance of that happening though with the lot of crooks and corruption that infests that party though). Long story short Davey, yeah, because he agrees with my disbelief of the 9/11 charade, yes, I have a greater respect for him than I gave him credit for. I wouldn't even care if he disagreed at this point because I know he at least looked for himself. (he'd be wrong but at least he'd have looked). Perhaps if your party would adopt some of that kind of honesty, I might be able to gain a different opinion of them one day too, but, that doesn't happen, does it? In fact, when this hoax finally breaks nationally as the scam that it was (and it will), I can't wait to see which republican hacks line up to agree with the whole thing for their own political aspirations, so I can do all I can to point out that they are simply the hacks that they are. Yeah...I was wrong about Jack. I'm still right about you though. You could agree with me on 9/11 too now and I'd still have no respect for you though. Bye Davey.
Justify it how you choose but you'll have to admit Lehigh was the most knowledgeable member in regards to 9/11- he didn't agree with your delusions so you took as many shots (if not more) at him as you did Jack...and not just about 9/11 but on every subject. Now that Jack isn't calling you a whacko you are fawning all over him. Proves, once again, that as long as we are on opposite sides that is all the solace I need to know I'm right.
Well you had to mention Lehigh, so one additional response is warranted. Lehigh, was a hack when it came to 9/11. He DID NOT look at anything honestly nor via anopen mind. He went out of his way to defend the lies, confuse the subject, refocus the discussion onto abstract technical aspects hoping to muddy the waters for the average person to be able to follow. He did so effectively. He didn't just disagree...he attempted to steer any point I tried to focus on into something else. That's not honesty nor integrity my friend, that's deception. I'm not exactly sure what his angle is other than I am sure he must have some vested interest in keeping the lies covered up. What that might be is for he and his maker to discuss at some point. He adds in half truths with incomplete and incoherent rhetoric. The final product is exactly what he wants, which is more confusion, less specificity, and what finally amounts to his personal contribution into keeping the lies of 9/11 covered. That's what he does so well. Yeah he is intelligent, unlike yourself, but his intellect has been compromised by something (the color green probably comes into play there somewhere I'd imagine). Regardless...he's wrong and he's well aware of it too, but as for you, well, you're just plain lost. Good day Davey.
Tom, I find it hard to believe you still associate me with Republicans, I have ditched those dirtbags long ago. I consider my self an independant conservative. GW and McCain make my skin crawl, Romney stinks, Huckabee sucks, Palin is a wh0re, need I say more?
I stand corrected again Jack. I guess I am used to lumping all those not supportive of the left as one big pot of right wing bandits, and that's not necessarily the case as I am discovering. Independent is good. I consider myself independent and often fall in line with the left simply because there is no other realistic voter's way to oppose the right. I've explained all this before. I listen to all contenders but default to the left because the alternative is the right., who clearly, do not represent my views on most things.
Liar, you told us you were a Libertarian. Remember that one? Oh, that was funny...I still laugh at you when I think about that. While we're at it, tom, do you still believe "Government is the only way to fix anything"? Funny, on the one hand you rail about how the gov't is to blame for your 9/11 fantasies while on the other it is the solution to everything that ails us. Please explain. (Jack, maybe you can convince tom to answer this, he does seem to be enamored by you at the moment.)
LOL I think Tom is set in his ways much like I was when I was a staunch blind Republican. It will take him to honestly look at things. He does have the smarts, but letting go of life long habits is very hard to do. I was a trip thru a horror show at a carnival when I first started to HONESTLY research the Republican party, 9/11, etc etc. I was learning things I did not want to learn, but I searched for truth, period. One has to set aside all political affiliation, take the blinders off, and dig. The truth shall set you free. Still, I am a hardcore conservative, but both the Rep and Dem party sickens me.
For what it's worth to you Jack, I am registered Libertarian. They are closer to my views than either the dems or the the right. They're not ideal though as they align themselves too closely to the right for my tastes. I initially registered (L) because I like their take on the tax structure and some aspects of government over reach. I still always wind up voting for the dems because it more directly impacts my stance against the right wing to do so. (in my view, a vote for the dems is better than voting independent as the right likes to claim they own the independents at election time...and I don't want there to be any mistake with my vote getting jumbled in with the right wing rapists), and I also think that voting democratic hurts the republican party the most (as opposed to an independent vote), and so I do so, as the dems are their biggest foe (and therefore the best use of my anti republican perspective). I don't particularly like the voting system but that's the only one we all have, so until such a time that voting for who can win as opposed to who I would like to see win becomes workable, I'm afraid I'll continue to vote democratic (and as long as the republican party represents who they proudly represent). The best way to keep the republicans out of office is to vote FOR their biggest enemy, and that is the democratic party.
