4,100 Islamic Terrorist Attacks Since 9/11...and counting!

You sound like the worst of muslim extremists calling humans (muslims) animals...no different than a muslim who would call jews pigs...its disturbing and I pray to god you fail in your crusade to 'educate' people since it seems to me you are not the best suited to educate anyone with such blind hatred and bias. It always seems to be, and this case in no different, that those who know the least often seem to yell the loudest...I dont know if there is much more to say here save to give this thread back to you to spew your rhetoric that paints all muslims as evil and hope people see you for what you are. Unlike you I have a very high opinion of americans, I think that on the whole they are very bright people and most will not fall prey to hate mongering.

 

Americans hated Nazis during World War II and with total resolve, killed and defeated those animals.

Today, we have a new 'animal' and it must be destroyed exactly the same way we dealt with the Nazis back 60 years ago.

 

Sadly, this is true. I really like Moens analogy of what we're up against. Spot-on hya: hya: hya:

 

O.K. now I see your objective. You are trying to wake the rest of us up to the danger of Muslim extemism because you are the only one for some odd reason that has a clear picture of our future unless we confront this ominous religion of hatred. Let me be the first to say thank you for your steadfast devotion to this cause. You have single-handedly raised the nation's consciousness to the menace posed by 1.5 billion Muslims around the world. Mission Accomplished!

Now that we are all continually looking over our sholders, checking under our beds at night, and deplaning anyone with a turban, what else can we do to counter this 1.5 billion Muslims lurking in the bushes outside our homes and watching us with evil Mohammad inspired intentions? Shall we suspend the constitution? Should we have mass round ups of potential problems? Should we shoot anyone we suspect on sight? Please, teacher of us all, tell us what you would have us do? We await your devine commands. Praise be to good king Midas!:bow:

 

no..Midas proclaimed them TRUE Muslims...if they are not extremist, they arent real muslims...no such thing as a moderate muslim remember? the danger is ALL muslims..get with the program... You must have been educated in the commie public school system

 

In a nutshell, you must treat "true" islam like a cancer.

You either contain it, control it, remove it, or kill it. If you leave "true" muslims alone (which is what most moderate muslims are doing), this cancer spreads and rakes chaos all over the land. If you look at the 14 centuries of this cult religion, their actions are quite clear and evident.

So again, you MUST treat islam like a cancer whose cells are multiplying each and every day.

Meanwhile...the jihad continues as it looks like the Netherlands are being invaded with hate as "true" muslims are spreading this cancer throughout Europe.

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Dutch imams 'leaving in droves'
By Sam Wilson of the BBC News


'Moderate' Muslim preachers are leaving the Netherlands and being replaced by more extreme clerics (true muslims), senior Dutch Muslim officials have warned.


Nasr Joemann of the Netherlands' Muslim Contact Group (CMO) said imams felt discriminated against and were leaving for France and Spain.

Of 450 Dutch mosques, 180 had no imam, leaving a vacuum that uncertified clerics were filling, he told BBC News. The Dutch government said it had planned a meeting on the matter. The CMO will be among the organisations present at the talks on 31 January with Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk. The justice and immigration department said it would not comment on the matter until then.

There are about one million Muslims in the Netherlands - about 6% of the population.

Tensions have risen in recent years, since the popularity of anti-immigration politician Pim Fortuyn and the murder of film-maker Theo Van Gogh by a Muslim extremist.

'Situation critical'

The Deputy Chairman of the Association of Dutch Imams, Mohamed Ousalah, has accused the government of doing little to remedy the situation. "The situation is critical. In Amsterdam, The Hague and Utrecht dozens of imams have left," he told the Dutch newspaper de Telegraaf. He said imams were becoming disillusioned and leaving because since the 11 September 2001 attacks on the US, they were increasingly being linked to terrorism.


"The mosques are forced to appoint people who are sometimes not qualified," said Nasr Joemann from the Muslim contact Group. "They are not always Moroccan or Turkish - sometimes they are from Somalia, Syria or Jordan - and they have a fundamental concept of Islam."

Some, he said, followed the Wahhabi doctrine - a strictly conservative form of Islam previously absent from the Netherlands.

"They are creating problems and propagating new views in the mosques. Young people are quite open to this teaching. This is creating tension and clashes in the community," he said. While the government had helped set up a scheme to train Dutch-born Muslims to be imams, it would be some years before the graduates could be posted to mosques, he said.

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Islamic jihad, coming to a civilized world near you.

 

O.K. let's say we buy your cancer analogy. What can we do Specifically! No clichés. No metaphors. Just specific ideas of what we can do about it. Real worls solutions. Anything. You must have some concrete ideas. I never hear them from you.

 

Like a cancer...you first must stop "true islam" in its tracks and contain it, then you must isolate it, and then you remove/kill it.

Harsh measures you say? Well, we had to do the same thing with the Nazis of World War II along with the Japs who were ready and wiiling to die for the emperor.

BTW...we won that war, try looking it up! Today the hate spewing from mosques along with how their children from day one are taught to hate Jews and all infidels are right in line with the Hitler youth of Nazi Germany.



It must be destoryed or the civilized world will pay a heavy toll...for many years to come.

You may not think we are in World War III, but the behavior and actions of these animals are evident. They must be destroyed and eliminated.

Go ahead and appease them, because as you do...they are just buying time to re-arm themselves for a time when it is better suited (for these animals) to strike and kill infidels. That's a jihadist tactic perfected by muhammad (no praise to him) called, "Hudna" in arabic.

We didn't start their jihad...but we are being forced to finish it and defend western civilization from their madness.

 

"...the civilized world ..." I think we can kiss that title good-bye. Kiss :hail:

 

Still stunned silence, bankrupt ideas, no specifics. It's hard to believe that you don't have to just lean back and smoke a cigarette after one of your diatribes. You're not really here to make anyone aware of anything. You just get off spewing hatred. Alotta guys would have just opted for porn.

 

dd:

Moen, you sound like a broken record "Disgruntled Democrat'. Midas has provided the only viable solution at this time.

But, thank goodness Hillary has just started her presidential exploratory committe. Maybe she can find out what happened to Vince Foster while she's at it. Also, take a little (Cloak) out of your life and let us at least know your first name and when your online...

 

I don't know what you think you're talking about. What specific solution has been suggested in this entire thread? All I'm asking for is specifics. Stop the rhetoric and the chestbeating and tell me what this country should do. I've asked enough times that even a Republican should be tired or dodging the question by now. What are you suggesting we do! If the goal here is just to spew hatred...Mission Accomplished George! What I'm not hearing from is the elephant in the room you all keep ignoring. Should we round up anyone of the Muslim faith and put them in internment camps? Should we round them up and deport them? Should we round them up and shoot them? I want to know what specifically is being suggested here. No one seems to be willing to lay their cards on the table and say how they really feel.

I can't figure out why Hillary or my name make any difference to this conversation. I don't care about Senator Clinton and my name is none of your business not to mention irrelevant.

I knew that if I asked for anything of substance from this rant-fest, I'd receive every dodge in the playbook. None of you have any idea what to do about Islamic extemism but you are all content to spew hatred and bigotry as if it were a means to an end.(a means to an end: something that you are not interested in but that you do because it will help you to achieve something else.)
If you're afraid to say what you really think we should do, it's probably because it sounds bigotted even to you when you say it outloud or to actually see it written out, because it is!

 

Should we round up anyone of the Muslim faith and put them in internment camps?

Only if they are conspiring to undermind and overthrow the United States along with financing and funneling resources to other islamic terror groups, which very well may be themselves. These are enemies of the state and they must be dealt with a swift action before their cancer spreads and causes more chaos. The same holds true for mosques or any other islamic "charity" organizations.

Should we round them up and deport them?

If they are here illegally and/or beyond their VISA...absolutely. And even before they arrive, they need to be fingerprinted, photographed (including the women minus the freakin' viel) and DNA samples would be a good idea to create a database of these people whose religion is clear...islam for all and death to all infidels if we do not convert. Actually...anybody here illegally needs to be deported.

Should we round them up and shoot them?

If they have ties to terrorism and after we receive all of the possible intell from these animals, let them go through the military courts and let it go from there. General Pershing had a great idea back in 1911 when he was dealing with muslim "insurgents". He lined 50 muslim "insurgents" up, soaked bullets in pig's blood and had these "insurgents" dig a mass grave. He then threw slaughtered pig's guts into the grave and shot 49 of the 50. He let go the 50th "insurgent" and told him to go back and tell the other "insurgents" what happened. Funny...there was not one "insurgent" attack for the next 50 years from these muslim radicals.

I want to know what specifically is being suggested here. No one seems to be willing to lay their cards on the table and say how they really feel.

Told you...you have to treat "true" muslims like a cancer. You first try to stop it, then you try to control it. Afterwards, you must remove this cancer and kill it before it destroys more healthy cells.

It is what it is...meanwhile, "true" islamic jihad continues to kill in all parts of the world as appeasers look for an answer how to "talk" with these people...when these people have no desire to talk and be tolerant of other religions. They just can't help it.

After all, there is a lot of momentum from 1,400 years of jihad and the very koran itself.

 

Midas - Looks like nothing has changed in 400 years, look at the significance of 11 Sept as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

 

So you are advocating tossing out the constitution, the bill of rights, western civilized law, due proccess under the law, and repeating mistakes we made in the past with Japanese American. Only because you are consumed by fear, you are willing to toss aside the freedoms and liberties our forefathers fought and died for to make this country what it is today. I for one believe in those American Ideals and can't see ever tossing them out because I'm scard of some enemy that seeks to change my way of life. They can blow up a building, shoot a plane down and a whole heck of a lot more before I am willing to give up the principles our civilization was founded on. You complain about the rights Arab counties don't have but completely ignore the Muslims that come to the west to experience those rights and bring that experience back to their homelands. You want to become what the enemy is while reviling them for it. You want to see your country move closer to the type of government Arabs are used to. And you can't even see the truth of this statement through your transfixed gaze and clenched fists. You do more to aid the enemies cause than anyone I know. I'm just glad that there are more level-headed Americans to counter the fanatics that our system protects.

Liberty must be a pretty shallow concept for you when all it takes is a handful of radical extremists ideas to get you to throw it aside and become as extremist as they are. The only possible way they can win this battle is if they succeed in making us stoop to their level of brutality and force other Muslims to choose which side of the savagery they will ally themselves with. Clearly, your limited understanding of this situation is just an onus the rest of us must endure. I have no doubt that you will be proven wrong in the end and I also have no doubt you'll go to your grave believing the opposite since a closed mind gathers no thoughts. Your black and white view of a complex situation is a testament to your lack of real knowledge of both the history and the causes of such upheavals. You continually use history to justify preconceived conclusions without ever really understanding the nuances that past events and currently evolving situations have to do with each other. Your lack of genuine knowledge is as appalling as it is inflammatory. I can tell you are not well-read and do not possess the intellectual capacity to lecture anyone on the wisest course of action in any matter much less one as serious as inter-societal conflicts. You lash out at those that don't sympathize with your viewpoint because for you, there is only one avenue, one path, and one resolution, never taking into consideration that we might just see alternatives to the dead end you've charted for us.

Given your irradicable character defects and arrogant demeanor, it is unlikely that any of this will dissuade you from the path you are on. When someone continues to do something that no one can understand and they don't seem to see the folly of their actions, you can bet they are getting something out of the process. Usually not what they tell you and not what they themselves think. Fear is a powerful motivation.

 

Nice speech...Meanwhile...islamic jihad continues...

[BTW...not by a handful, but there are MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of islamic animals who want us dead. And BTW, didn't we win World War II?]

Police probe sheik's DVDs
By Luke McIlveen, staff and wires
January 18, 2007 05:06pm

FEDERAL police are investigating whether an Australian Islamic leader has incited violence in a series of DVDs in which he calls on youngsters to give up their lives in jihad, and calling Jews pigs.

Sheik Feiz Mohammed's comments in the DVDs called Death Series have brought widespread condemnation from politicians and community groups.
The Australian Federal Police said it was looking into the DVDs and whether the sheik's comments breached sedition laws and incited violence.
If they did, the AFP would launch a full investigation and he could face charges.

NSW Premier Morris Iemma said Sheik Mohammed, the leader of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool, in Sydney's west, was inciting terrorism.
In the DVDs, the Sydney-born cleric urges young Muslims to be prepared to sacrifice themselves for Islam.

"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam," he says.

"Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."

 

:loud: Falling on deaf ears...

 

Why you wish to protect people that are here illegally and beyond their Visa's is beyond reason! These people, including muslims, should be deported immediately!

Anyways, the whole VISA process is so F--Ked up that it is no surprise "true" muslims are easily making their way into our country Remember this:

"Six months to the day after Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi flew planes into the World Trade Center, the Immigration and Naturalization Service notified a Venice, Florida, flight school that the two men had been approved for student visas."

 

Illegal immigrants should be gotten rid of LEGALLY and with all due haste. Profiling any one group is going to cause more problems than it solves. We need some kind of tracking mechanism so any possible terrorists aren't able to slip in and disappear. We currently don't have that kind of technology or the resources to implement it.

It is also a sad fact of this democracy that anytime the citizens here feel threatened, immigrants are the first to be targets of discrimination. Nice to see you keeping that tradition alive and well. I know you really don't have the cerebral capacity to think this problem through to it's best solution so I'll just say that you and I want the same thing in the end for this country. We may have different ways of achieving that goal and we certainly are skeptical of each others methods, but I think we have argued this into the ground and can move neither forwards nor backwards.

The outcome is going to be determined by time alone and neither of us gets a say in the end. And I forgot to tell you this but...Time is on my side.