4,100 Islamic Terrorist Attacks Since 9/11...and counting!

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Midas, Jan 29, 2006.

  1. ClarkGriswold

    ClarkGriswold New Member

    That my friend - is a comparison. Jihad isn't as dangerous as an SUV. In english the word "as" is used to compared like/unlike things.

    i.e. He is as tall as a tree.

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    If you are not making any comparison (as many of us have misconstrued your post to be), what then was the point of you pointing out that more people die in automobile accidents?

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    Groundswell of political activism isn't a response of a society? hmmmm





    Please help us to understand the intent of these comments. Since we/you are clearly misunderstood.
     
  2. Old Silver

    Old Silver New Member

    It is to be expected. People like this guy seem to always revert to insults when they are losing an argument. I knew that eventually he would lower himself to such immature actions. Pretty much proves my posting that he has to seem intillectually superior to everyone else EVERY time he posts. Must be a few skeletons in that closet!

    I chuckle every time I see people like this that seem to be overly obsessed with the "I'm smarter than you so I'm better" belief.:bow: I like to consider myself as low profile and I would never judge a persons intelligence from their typos on a message board (unless provoked). Maybe I don't have a fancy college degree on my wall. Hell, the only professor I ever knew was trying to date Mary Ann. But I can proudly say that this "intellectually inferior" person enjoys a nice healthy income and when I fly I don't have to go commercial or take a taxi when I get there. I sure hope they never find out I typed 'Ol. I might just lose everything!!

    Actually my time is more important than trying to talk sense with the "intillectually superior but socially unstable".

    Hey Old Dan I need help. Sins eyem so dum I kneed to now how to spel IGNORE? Or is it 'IGNORE?
     
  3. jwevansv

    jwevansv All-knowing

    Clark, this moron keeps comparing bs then says he isn't comparing or using analogies. It is pointless to keep arguing this guy, but it sure is fun pointing out Liberal idiocy and denial not to mention his complete assinine statements. This guy accuses me of not not knowing what analogy means when he doesn't even know what the word means and wants people to take him seriously!
     
  4. Old Silver

    Old Silver New Member

    Hey jwevansv. In his own words......

    Looks like he ought to practice what he preaches. Oh well enough of this, I'm outa here before I lower myself to Cloudys level and get myself in trouble. Time to give Midas back his thread anyway.
     
  5. jwevansv

    jwevansv All-knowing

    [QUOTE='Ol Silver] Time to give Midas back his thread anyway.[/QUOTE]

    You are right. I am very sorry Midas for getting off your subject, but I just had to confront and point out Cloudsweepers ignorance. I couldn't let him get away with using rediculous comparisons. Some people just need to be confronted about their ignorance of the English language especially when they accuse you of being ignorant. That must really hurt Cloudsweeper, calling me uneducated when you deny that you made a comparison that was a comparison. Could that be doubly ignorant? Doubly dumbass-like? It must hurt to be you living life in a dumbass state of being.
     
  6. jwevansv

    jwevansv All-knowing

    My own definition? You are deranged! Now you think I am the one who determines what words mean. How about this, don't use my definition, go look in the dictionary for yourself and use your own. Keep talking you are making yourself appear as smart as you claim to be.

    If you can't comprehend the English language and know the meaning of words how can you seriously think you can understand the complexities of world events? I think I know the answer. Because you are either a foreigh mole here in the U.S or just a plain dumbass . That would explain it all. I personally think it is the latter.
     
  7. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    This is why SAT scores in the US are in the toilet, and why they eliminated the analogy section in the new SAT format. Most people don't have the educational background to know what they are. An analogy is not a comparison. They are two different words with different meanings. An analogy is an inference that two or more things are similar to each other, or that they resemble each other, or that they correspond to each other in some way. A comparison is an examination of characteristics to identify points of similarities and differences. I don't really expect any of you to understand this or admit it. It seems probable that you will go to your graves misusing the terms and never realizing that they are different. I thought at least one of you would have learned this, but apparently I was over-optimistic.

    That said, there was no analogy in my original post. This is obvious. The post made a correct observation about the relative size and impact of two separate events, that one was statistically more dangerous than the other over an identifiable period of time -- a correct conclusion. No inference was made that they were similar or equivalent or related in any manner.

    No number of denials or personal attacks will make any of you correct, although if you put your fingers in your ears and yell loud enough and support each other enough, I'm sure you will feel good about yourselves.
     
  8. ClarkGriswold

    ClarkGriswold New Member

    way to go, you've both neglected to acknowledge my post and chose to once again stoop to insults. Fair enough.

    You failed to mention cancer, lightning strikes, homocide, suicide, sexual assults, natural disasters, and many other tragic events with both large bodycount and emotional damage. Your observation has been noted. Now be a man and make your point without pussyfooting around. Go ahead say what you mean! I think your observation is non-sensical and actually quite moot.

    now please as clear as possible for me, could you reword your orginal statement regarding traffic accidents in america and how you feel it applies to this subject? thanks in advance.
     
  9. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cloudsweeper99
    This jihad stuff apparently isn't nearly as dangerous as an SUV

    That my friend - is a comparison. Jihad isn't as dangerous as an SUV. In english the word "as" is used to compared like/unlike things.

    i.e. He is as tall as a tree.

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cloudsweeper99
    Of course, since 9-11 there have also been about 85,000 traffic deaths in the US.

    If you are not making any comparison (as many of us have misconstrued your post to be), what then was the point of you pointing out that more people die in automobile accidents?

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cloudsweeper99
    I also never made a comment about how we, as a society, respond to jihad. It just isn't in there, nobody asked me about it, and I never offered an opinion on the subject.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cloudsweeper99
    there hasn't been any groundswell of political activism against auto dealerships.

    Groundswell of political activism isn't a response of a society? hmmmm

    Please help us to understand the intent of these comments. Since we/you are clearly misunderstood.



    Clark, since you asked, below is the intent of the comments.

    Regarding your observed "comparisons," you are correct, they are statistical observations, not analogies [see above for detailed explanation]. I thought the point I was making would be obvious, that there are common, everyday events that occur in life that are statistically more dangerous to the average person than jihad, based on Midas' numbers. I could have used cancer deaths or heart disease. That probably would have been better for the crowd in this room. I expected to much of them.

    I'm not sure why you believe that a pun about the lack of a groundswell of political activism against auto dealers is somehow a comment about society's response to jihad. You would have to explain to me why you believe I intended that. Nothing I wrote can be remotely considered a statement about this topic. It seemed obvious to me that auto dealers were not jihadists, but perhaps I should have spent more time explaining this just in case the room was populated by people who might believe I was somehow saying that auto dealers were jihadists or treated as jihadists, or should be pursued as jihadists. I underestimated the amount of paranoia [to put it in polite terms] in the room.

    Thanks for a reasonable reply.
     
  10. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    [QUOTE='Ol Silver] Hey Old Dan I need help. Sins eyem so dum I kneed to now how to spel IGNORE?[/QUOTE]
    Not really old partner, I have been watching this situation develop for the last couple of days. I have decided that I can only stand in reverent awe of Clowneys exibition and/or interpretation of the English language. His illustration of enlightenment is magnificent to say the least. I'm just waiting to find out what he will enlighten us with the next he honors us with his messages of light. Oh great interpreter, pray tell us what to expect in the future from your lofty purch above the common man.Kiss Just for you Clowney!
     
  11. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    Ok. One last attempt. Let's see where this goes. Here is the original.

    "I've been watching this body count go up with interest [well, to be honest, not that much interest]. Of course, since 9-11 there have also been about 85,000 traffic deaths in the US. Surprisingly, there hasn't been any groundswell of political activism against auto dealerships. This jihad stuff apparently isn't nearly as dangerous as an SUV, more so for nations that choose to stay out of the conflict. For example, I think the death toll in Switzerland is probably fairly low. I'm also not sure that the numbers reflect the death toll from the civil wars in various African nations.

    Sometimes, the best way to avoid getting stung is to stop poking the bees nest."

    Here is the Cointalk political chat room simplified version for the paranoid among us who believe the paragraph is full of Nostradamus-like hidden messages.

    "Many common threats in life are more dangerous than jihad if you use Midas' numbers. If he included the deaths in some of the African conflicts, the numbers might be more meaningful. Some other nations such as Switzerland are safer than here."

    Let the frenzy begin! Analogies all over the place! Obviously composed with liberal bias!
     
  12. Danr

    Danr New Member


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  13. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Okay, let's forget about the definition of the word "analogy". Even if you compare jihadists to SUV accidents, you can't ignore the fact that one is premeditated with the intent to kill, and the other is just an unfortunate accident.

    There is NOTHING accidental about islamic jihadists. The number of deaths and injuries these people are responsible for should only be compared to other cultures that kill, enslave, tax, and convert in the name of their religion. With over 1.2 billion muslims populating the Earth and increasing (as they breed like rats), one can only conclude these jihad numbers will in fact increase. Their actions, past and present, all support this rise of islamic jihad too!

    Face it, we never paid that much attention to it because it was over there and what did we care if those idiots killed each other. Now their jihad has moved to our shores and there are many islamic groups using OUR freedoms (right here in this country) with the sole purpose of destroying us. Some people don't see the smoke, I see the fire.

    That fire was first set against America when islamic terrorists attacked our merchant ships back in the early 1800's. The United States since then has joined the civilized world...islamic countries have put their jihad religion first and are trying to pull the entire world back to the days of their drug-laced prophet.
     
  14. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 New Member

    Midas, I didn't compare jihadists to SUV accidents. I quantified the number of accidents to compare to the number of jihad incidents you posted, a very different thing. I'm not sure why this is difficult to understand for everyone. I asked a visiting friend's kid if he understood what I meant. He said, "Yup, that one is bigger." - pointing to the accident number.

    I didn't "ignore" the fact that one is accidental and the other premeditated. I never even addressed that issue. Frankly, I don't even understand why it is important to everyone.
     
  15. jwevansv

    jwevansv All-knowing

    Did you just say you didn't compare but you did compare? ROFL You are more of a dumbass than I thought you were. :D ROFL
     
  16. Danr

    Danr New Member


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  17. Danr

    Danr New Member

    the Koran is not bad, see the pope is kissing it.

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  18. jwevansv

    jwevansv All-knowing

    Do you actually believe all that fluff trying to make yourself sound educated? HA And what do you know about SAT's you haven't even graduated elementary school yet!

    Ok, one you are officially a certified dumbass! Read carefully more than once if you have to until the definition sinks into your small lib. brain. Here is a link to the thesaurus on the word analogy.

    Main Entry: analogy
    Part of Speech: noun
    Definition: similarity
    Synonyms: affinity, alikeness, comparison, correlation, correspondence, equivalence, homology, likeness, metaphor, parallel, relation, resemblance, semblance, simile, similitude

    And here is the link to make it easier to access. http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/analogy

    Like I said earlier, you can't debate me. I don't consider myself that smart but I know when to accept defeat.
     
  19. Danr

    Danr New Member

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    you are mighty indeed
     
  20. Midas

    Midas New Member

    What islamic terrorists are doing in Africa doesn't make the news, but it should!

    Nov 22, 2005, Kalma Camp, Sudan — When the Arab men in military uniforms caught Noura Moussa and raped her the other day, they took the trouble to explain themselves.

    "We cannot let black people live in this land," she remembers them telling her, and they used racial epithets against blacks, called her a slave, and added: "We can kill any members of African tribes."

    Ms. Noura is one of thousands of women and girls to be gang-raped in Darfur, as part of what appears to be a deliberate Sudanese government policy to break the spirit of several African tribes through mass rape.

    Just another isolated misguided islamic radical? Wake up people!
     

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