$100's a barrel

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by snafu, Nov 10, 2007.

  1. wez

    wez Big Time BS




    Yes, the slave owners who sat on the porch sipping lemonade, who made the country great, aren't lazy, the black men who worked the cotton fields 16 hours a day for no pay at the end of a whip were lazy...



    You got some wild fantasies running through the noggin there bud... You are what you hate and you and your ideas of who made what great are a blight to humanity and all that is good and pure in the world.... The truth is the truth no matter what you say and how many people say it... And for your sake, you better hope your religious beliefs are as real as your historical fantasies.



    Bet you hate young, rich, black rappers too.. How dare they.
     
  2. BrotherMan

    BrotherMan The Man

    You have kind of a twisted view. And you speak on things that you are ignorant about. Let's reign that in some.
     
  3. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    Yes, he does have a twisted view.. and is quite ignorant of what he speaks of.


    However, rather than reign it in, let the light shine....
     
  4. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    Here's someone who made America great... My family tree traces directly to him on my fathers side.

    One thing it doesn't mention, he died at the plantation of his nephew in Maryland.. Wonder if he had any slaves. I'd like to believe not, but most likely did...

    I don't judge an individual by their mistakes... He did a lot more good than bad in this world and I'm quite proud of my heritage and legacy.. But telling the truth is never wrong and I'm sure my family tree would agree.. My great grandpa, my grandpa, and my father couldn't lie even if they wanted to no matter how big and small... They were smarter than that, and luckily, so am I.


    John Hanson, American Patriot and First President of the United States
    (1715-1783)


    He was the heir of one of the greatest family traditions in the colonies and became the patriarch of a long line of American patriots his great-grandfather died at Lutzen beside the great King Gustavus Aldophus of Sweden; his grandfather was one of the founders of New Sweden along the Delaware River in Maryland; one of his nephews was the military secretary to George Washington; another was a signer of the Declaration; still another was a signer of the Constitution; yet another was Governor of Maryland during the Revolution; and still another was a member of the first Congress; two sons were killed in action with the Continental Army; a grandson served as a member of Congress under the new Constitution; and another grandson was a Maryland Senator. Thus, even if Hanson had not served as President himself, he would have greatly contributed to the life of the nation through his ancestry and progeny.

    As a youngster he began a self-guided reading of classics and rather quickly became an acknowledged expert in the juridicalism of Anselm and the practical philosophy of Seneca both of which were influential in the development of the political philosophy of the great leaders of the Reformation. It was based upon these legal and theological studies that the young planter his farm, Mulberry Grove was just across the Potomac from Mount Vernon began to espouse the cause of the patriots.

    In 1775 he was elected to the Provincial Legislature of Maryland. Then in 1777, he became a member of Congress where he distinguished himself as a brilliant administrator. Thus, he was elected President in 1781. Was John Hanson the first President of the United States?

    The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land). Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the Revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

    As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents. He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch. All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington.

    Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite a feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus. Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents. President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department. Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.

    The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one-year term during any three-year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time. He served in that office from November 5, 1781 until November 3, 1782. He was the first President to serve a full term after the full ratification of the Articles of Confederation and like so many of the Southern and New England Founders, he was strongly opposed to the Constitution when it was first discussed. He remained a confirmed anti-federalist until his untimely death.

    Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office. Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States? It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon. A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.

    George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today. And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.

    http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html



    Here's wikapedia's profile... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanson

    Wikapedia also has a bunch of myths about him as well.. One was that he was a black man and the decendent of a slave..... hahahahahaha


    Interesting.. cites the possibilty that he decended from an indentured servant who worked his way out of debt, which was quite common at that time... certainly wasn't a black man.. But possibly decended from a slave..


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanson_(myths)



    What I do know, is he always told the truth to the best of his ability.. it's in the genes.
     
  5. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    What made America great was a Constitution, that while flawed, had the concept of limited government at it's core. Sadly, our Constitution has been under attack for the last three-quarters of a century and we no longer have a federal government limited to the powers itemized in Article I, Section 8 of our Constitution. Slevery was a gross violation of the spirit of the Declaration of Independence which declared that all men had inalienable rights. These inalienable rights were derived from natural law. We have veered far from the natural law basis of our Constitution. I am a slave from Jan till May every year. You have no right to claim anothers labor for your own. This does not matter if you are a slaveowner or a welfare bum. I got more respect for the slaveowners. Washington and Jefferson come to mind as great individuals with the flaw, common to their times, of prejudice. I can think of no welfare bums who contribute to society.

    Sadly, the anti-federalists turned out to be right. The Constitution has been bastardized, by judicial decree, into a constitution that allows a tyrannical federal government far from the vision of it's authors. Ron Paul in 2008, for a return to constitutional government.
     
  6. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    No sh*t, teach.
     
  7. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    If you haven't noticed TJ, we have quite the socialist government and a nation of citizens who now expect the government to provide for them at every turn. Not one thing in this world should need to be subsidized by anything. You do it because it's right, not because you have to for fear of retribution by control phreaks... and if you think what we got is great, you're an idiot


    The worst welfare recipients in this country wear suits, ride in limo's and make laws to keep us blind and slaving on their behalf...
     
  8. BrotherMan

    BrotherMan The Man

    I say we cut off welfare. Let the bastards that don't work die. Survival of the fittest. Right?
     
  9. wez

    wez Big Time BS



    Wouldn't bother me to see some raggedy suit wearing, limo losing mother f*cker begging on the street... Might even throw em a bone from the fruits of my labor.... If they're lucky and they tell the truth...


    Course, I'd never give them cash... I know alls they'd do is blow it on a new toupee and a dry cleaning in the hopes of regaining they're (sic) "power"... Hahahahahahaha


    Does anyone here truly believe they actually own anything that can't be taken away by the federal government, including your life? Does that sound great?
     
  10. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    These were listed on Wikapedia which says that it only discusses things that are confirmable through documentation or almost universally agreed upon facts.. Pretty cool stuff.

    Notice the one in red? Hahahahahaha... Perhaps next time you wanna judge France, you'll think again.. Hahahahaha

    Oh yeah, don't forget to thank John Hanson for his service to this once great nation this Thanksgiving when you feast....




    Among the accomplishments of Hanson's presidency of Congress:



    Delivered the official Thanks of Congress to George Washington for his victory at Yorktown

    Commended Gen. Lafayette and thanked France for his services

    Pressed states to keep up their commitments to sending delegates to Congress, which was often short of a quorum

    Passed legislation for the Bank of North America, the first central bank

    Appointed a Secretary of the United States to assist in correspondence and record-keeping

    Granted Gen. Washington broad powers to negotiate prisoner exchanges with Britain; Washington immediately worked out a trade of Gen. Cornwallis for Henry Laurens, the first president of the Continental Congress

    Established the United States Mint

    Established the predecessor agency of the State Department

    Proclaimed the first national Thanksgiving holiday

    Created the position of Chairman of Congress, a predecessor of the vice-presidency

    Negotiated a peace treaty with Britain

    Settled a dispute between Connecticut and Pennsylvania, with Hanson acting as an equivalent of Chief Justice

    Called for the first national census



    Hey Teach, how about "we" revive the anti-federalist party and run you for prez? Hahahahaha.. Anyone got 500,000,000 dollars "we" can borrow for playing the campaign game? Not enough time before next years election to raise that kinda money... and I don't like debt... Nor do I like asking people for handouts and in return serve their selfish interests.. Whats a patriot to do?
     
  11. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Charity should be done by communities, not governments.

    If a good person just hits a bad spot in the road, his family, his friends, his community will all help him get back on his feet.


    If a lazy person is just too lazy to work, his family, his friends, his community will all let him sleep in the bed he made.



    The government cannot see into the heart of a person to see if they are deserving of free money from taxpayers or if they are just lazy, so they should not be trying to do what they cannot do well.



    The things the Federal Government should be doing is working to keep jobs here and not sent over seas, either through incentives or import taxes to protect Americans in my opinion. If we keep going like we are, we will have no industry and America will be one big service industry Country where we are all asking "do you want fries with that?".
     
  12. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    Oils hovering... hit $99.29... Yikes!


    Might as well move to 80 hour work weeks too.. gonna need it to buy the gas to get to work.
     
  13. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Well it hit $108 and I'm back on the "make your own kick." I got the plans for my still to make my own ethenol it's just getting started. First I gotta make it, then I gotta figure out what to use. My buddy has some land to clear so we're thinking Prarie grass and wood chips. Anybody else looking for a alternative?
     

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