Pro-Choice or Pro-Abortion?

NO, CLOWN, IT DID NOT.
AT ALL.

Tell me Clown, who pays for the "Freedom" of choice to abort?
THAT, is the foundation of 1L foundation of Roe understanding.
Jesus.....

 

Got news for you liberals out there . . . Normalizing bad choices does not make them right.

 

Personally on the political spectrum, I rank the Abortion Issue just below stopping the production of the US cent.

 

“Safe, légal, and rare” has become “safe (for mom), legal (up to point of birth), and commonplace”

 

Since it's come up a few times, abortions are not in fact at alarming all time highs

You want to reduce abortions? Increase sex education and access to birth control methods.

 

Remember when:
http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/abortion-advocates-make-me-sick.48140/page-5#post-298283

 

No, what I've seen several times in this thread if that they're at all time highs or "commonplace." Clearly that's not the case.

I'm not sure if that logic eludes you that i can explain it to you, but let's try. The main driver of abortion is unplanned pregnancy. For simple numbers, let's say 1 in 10 unplanned pregnancies end in abortion.

Without birth control options, let's say there's 1000 unplanned pregnancies this year. 100 abortions. Introduce birth control options, if it prevents 50% of unplanned pregnancies, you're down to 50 abortions.

Obviously very over simplified numbers, but does that make sense? It's a multimodal approach.

 

Quote the posts that you are referring to in this thread. There’s several responses so it shouldn’t be hard, now should it? You did say “ several times in this…….” Right?
No if’s or’s but’s. Just man up and explain your reasoning in the link I provided of your previous comments that seem to contradict your current statement.
I’ll respond to the rest of your reply if you can comprehend what I have asked. There are damn few things that elude me,. You?

 

@Profiler i prefer not to call people put directly when can be avoided, but if you insist

Implying they're not rare.

This one is true.

"Normalization"

I basically did call this one out directly

I already did. It is not contradictory. 2 things can be true. Multimodal approaches are more effective. If you require a source, there have been studies showing birth control access reduces abortion

 

Stand fast. You claimed:
“No, what I've seen several times in this thread if that they're at all time highs or "commonplace." Clearly that's not the case.”
Now you are obfuscating. They are not rare. Would you like to look at the data?

 

Bring it, they are indeed rare. Though I admit it's somewhat subjective depending on how you define "rare"

Historically? Yes
As a percentage of unintended pregnancy? Yes
In terms of year over year change? I guess not, but that's not really informative.

So how to you define "rare" and please bring this data based response you keep promising

 

??? . . . Try being less illiterate, GW.

 

And it should be. The left has driven the proverbial treads off this tire though. With effective results too.

 

I don't know what you consider "rare", but according to the CDC, there were 11.6 abortions in the U.S. in 2021 per 1,000 women ages 15 to 44. (That figure excludes data from California, the District of Columbia, Maryland, New Hampshire and New Jersey).

I don't consider 1.16 abortions per 100 women (not counting those states and D.C.) to be "rare". I wouldn't consider finding more than one Mercury dime for every 100 dimes I search to be "rare". In fact, I would consider it "common" at that point.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...mber-of-abortions-in-the-us-changed-over-time

 

Rare is subjective, also I think not terribly useful outside of rhetoric. Fact of the matter is people have always needed and had them. You don't make them more rare by outlawing them, you just make them less safe.

 

This is exactly the elephant in the room. Repealing Roe V. Wade did nothing of the kind. Yet that is the untold truth that the left allows to be prevalent among the low information voter. I saw exactly the same thing when Obamacare was the talk of the town. The low information voter actually believed that Obamacare meant he had free healthcare on the horizon. Myself, I believe that a half truth is more deceptive than an outright lie. And that is what is taking place here.

 

Not the act of repealing itself, but the ensuing bans. You said yourself abortions should be between a woman, her god, and her doctor. Repealing Roe gives the government a say in that decision, why would you want that?

 

Is there any point during a pregnancy that you would say that the State has an obligation to step in?

 

The Alston Decision has caused me significantly more annoyance, aggravation, irritation and ect. than either Roe v Wade or Dobbs.