Romney: 'Victims' comment not elegantly stated ....DAH!!!!!

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  1. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    What Romney will say behind closed doors gives us insight into his opinions of average Americans. The 47 percent of people that do not pay taxes he is referring to do not concern him because they are little more than victims. This 47% includes:

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    COSTA MESA, Calif. — Republican Mitt Romney is trying to head off a new distraction for his campaign after a video surfaced showing him telling wealthy donors that 47 percent of all Americans "believe they are victims" entitled to help from the government that permeates their lives.

    At an impromptu news conference Monday, Romney offered no apologies, conceding the comments were not "elegantly stated" and were spoken "off the cuff." The Republican presidential nominee said the remarks showed a contrast between President Barack Obama's "government-centered society" and his belief in a "free-market approach."

    "Of course, I want to help all Americans, all Americans, have a bright and prosperous future," Romney told reporters.

    Obama's campaign pounced on the video, which was obtained by the magazine Mother Jones and released only hours after Romney's campaign outlined a new strategy to try to rejuvenate a struggling campaign. The video's emergence came as advisers to the former Massachusetts governor tried to reassure party leaders and donors about Romney's strategy amid concerns that the race could be slipping away.

    "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney is shown saying in the video of a May 17 fundraiser in Boca Raton, Fla. "There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

    Romney said in the video that his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

    And what states do these 47% mostly live in:

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  2. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Romney was spot-on & I'm glad to see that he isn't backing away from his statements! BO created this "victim" mentality & I for one am glad he's getting called out on it.
     
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  3. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    So am I!!!! Aren't you on the government dole these days?
     
  4. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Good for Romney for standing up and saying it like it is.
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    In what way?
     
  6. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I had no doubt that the truly far Right wingnuts would double down on his comments and then wonder why their guy is tanking 50 days before the election.

    YOU PEOPLE!.....As the Romney's like to say, are simply a breed apart. You are actually too mired in your own lives and your own situations to be able to be Americans and it shows. I should start a blog call "Old white men" just to make fun of the dying class of idiots that are kicking and screaming all the way out the door of irrelevance. :D
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    So, what was that about me being on the dole?
     
  8. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I wonder what Mitt Romney and the rest of his low information voting class think about all those corporations that pay nothing in taxes, enrich themselves off of the bribes and pay-offs they manage through countless lobbyists, and pay utterly nonexistent tax rates and they feel entitled to pick on seniors living on fixed incomes, disabled people, people making less than $20,000 who do pay income taxes, sales taxes, state and local taxes, property taxes, etc?

    What a bunch of entitled elites!
     
  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Kinda like GE? The company run by BO's buddy Jeff Immelt? The guy BO named his "jobs czar" while at the same time sending thousands of jobs & billions of dollars overseas?
     
  10. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Yes davy, GE IS a corporation. They also benefit from a bribe driven tax code. Good for you, you can stretch one of my points to an obvious conclusion.
     
  11. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Well, see, you & your ilk always try to paint Romney as some sort of bad guy because of his successful business background yet you have BO sitting there as twisted up with big business as anyone ever has been, probably moreso. I believe that's called a double standard?
     
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  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    He still can't address the comment he made about me on the dole, can he? Typical.
     
  13. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Elites like Brian Harrison? Tom LaSorda? In-Soo Cho? Charles Gassenheimer? Bill Capp?
     
  14. jth

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    47% of tax-filers pay no income tax in this country.
    That's not 47% of Americans; that's 47% of people who file federal income taxes.
    2 questions: Why should 47% of tax-filers have no investment whatsoever in their government?
    What percentage of Americans should not have to pay income taxes? ….so what do you think 50%, 51%, 70%, or more?
     
  15. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Let me ask you a straight forward question. Do you know the difference between payroll taxes and income taxes? Just curious.

    How many people do you know that work but have no taxes taken out of their paychecks? Is it 47% of the people you know? How many people do you know that walk into any store and pay no sales taxes? How many people do you know that own homes that pay no property taxes? What about State and local taxes? Do you know anyone exempt from paying those?

    Now unless you want to tax social security income for the elderly which we currently do not do, you have to reduce the number of people that you claim do not pay taxes to about 37%. Now, you could always increase the taxes on those making less than $20,000 annually and force them to be even more impoverished but through the tax system we recognize how counter productive it would be to tax them and then turn around and give them food stamps, welfare, school lunches, and support them with any number of other government aid programs. In other words, they don't meet the minimum income level to have to pay income taxes. So we can deduct another 7% leaving us with a little less than 30% of the country that do not pay income taxes but do pay payroll taxes and all of the other taxes I already mentioned. And these are the people you are complaining about while multi-billion dollar corporations pay nothing through tax loopholes bought and paid for with campaign contributions to your representatives? One really has to question your priorities.
     
  16. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Obama has openly stated that being in his income bracket gives him and others like him a path to pay a smaller percentage of their income in taxes than bus drivers. He says that the system is rigged for the wealthy and he being one of them, he should know.

    You won't hear Romney say this even though it is indisputably true. Instead, he'll talk about how hard he worked even though he was born with a silver foot in his mouth. Obama really worked his way up from the bottom while Romney was a child of privilege. If either of them have the right to brag about their accomplishments in life, it would certainly be Obama. Romney was born on third base and thinks he hit a home run.
     
  17. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I read the word "federal" on jth's post. I know of no one paying federal sales taxes, no one paying federal property taxes, no one paying federal State and local taxes. Not only that, but the amount taken from you pay check is immaterial. The amount actually paid less credits etc. might be meaningful.
     
  18. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    How much is enough? Romney pays millions of dollars in federal taxes...that's more than you or I will pay in our lifetimes, then you have half the population not contributing a dime to the financial well-being of our country. What's that about "shared sacrifice" or "fair share"? Where's the equality in having a tiny segment of our citizens footing the bill for everyone else? I absolutely agree the successful should more tax (in terms of dollars) but having the achievers penalized to the extent Liberals would like to see while so many are able to get by paying nothing is unfair.
     
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  19. JoeNation
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    Considering he makes $20 million a year, he should pay more than you and I. Or is that argument lost on you?
     
  20. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    If you were capable of losing those ideolgical lenses for a moment you would have picked up on the fact that I did say Romney should pay more more...way more...in terms of dollars but where's the equality in penalizing the successful to the degree the left is advocating? How is it a "fair share" when a tiny segment of our citizens pay for the bulk of our gov't when half contribute nothing?
     

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