latest US polling on Russia compared to Ukraine

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  1. John Kamps
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    John Kamps Well-Known Member

    Its shocking.....

    82% of Americans consider Russia the enemy (so 18% are traitors)

    67% want Ukraine to win a total victory vs Putinites

    62% want Trump to send Tomahawks toute suite

    on party lines....

    84% of Dems support Ukraine
    78% of MAGA Rep. support Ukraine
    77% of Ind. "" ""

    So, if Trump wants to win mid terms I would suggest taking a more pro EU/ NATO/ UKraine stance
    And fire that idiot Witkoff or send him packing to join his friends in the Kremlin, also send pro-Russia propagandists packing with him.

    The Invasion in 2014 would never have taken place if Reagan was President instead of Obama..
    Ditto for 2022. Reagan knew only thing that works with Russian is strenght. Thats why bullies never attack bigger foes.
     
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  2. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    Agree
     
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  3. John Kamps
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    John Kamps Well-Known Member

    "Commonsense" is hard to find in this wacky World. They must be "very pleased" in Moscow, Beijing/ Tehran/ Pjongyang:oops:
    On the otherhand, its FINALLY forced Germany to take charge of Europe, with its huge economic clout. Merz will make "Germany great again", and protect Europe from evil Regime lurking in the Kremlin:) Germany and Europe must rebuild a modern miltary alliance like the old Holy Roman Empire, a force to keep the "mechanized hordes of Ghengiz Khan" at bay. Truman should have listened to Patton and finished the job in July 45 vs USSR.
     
  4. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    One of the most societal improvements in the World was and is because of Genghis Khan. Before Khan, it was Alexander The Great.

    The Holy Roman Empire does not and did not earn accolades. It was a failure in all respects, anti-societal, criminally corrupt, and "served" only the German Empire and the Hapsburgs.

    To believe otherwise, is a warped misunderstanding of World History.

    As a side note concerning Truman-Patton, the culprit to "blame" was Eisenhower.
     
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  5. John Kamps
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    you know "eisenhower" translate "iron smasher":D

    Leon Degrelle gave that description to the Red Army. Mind you the hordes of Genghiz and Ogadai where the best military machine bar none. Had the Khan (Ogadai) not died in 1241, Subotai and his Mongol armies would have rolled to the Atlantic. They had just annihilated two huge Christian armies at Liegnitz and Mohi.
    The HRE decayed once Austrian Kings were in charge, under Spanish Emperor Charles V they were invincible, "The Thirty Years War "started their downfall. Prince Eugen von der Savoy was a great General in War of the Spanish Succession 1700-14.
    But he was the last good leader of the HRE.
    Much acclaim is given to so called Peter I the Great, Romanov Tzar, however his advesary Charles XII of Sweden had to take on Russia/ Denmark/ Sachsen/ Poland and Lithuania yet he kept winning until Poltava in modern Ukraine 1709. Too bad he did not finish Russia. In 1918, again the Reds swept into power, yet the Allies made Germny give up conquered Russian territory, to the Bolesvists! We all see how that ended up, 54 M murdered by Lenin-Stalin-Kruschev-Brezhnev-Andropov clique.
    Now, we can finally right past mistakes and help Ukraine win, take Russia down. lets not blow it again, like in 1919/ 1945........
     
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  6. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Your commentary is essentially correct, albeit few minor embellishments.

    I do have one correction to the Khan story (well....2 really).

    The empowered Mongol that was blessed by the Khan was the Lord Jamukha, who faithfully and along side the Khan, and his blood brother. Jamukha preferred to follow the "old ways" of Aristocracy, and Temujin favored and only allowed recognition by ability.

    However, without Jamukha, the Mongolian Empire would not have achieved the strength of the eventual Mongol Empire, because the rivalry led to complete unification of the Mongol Hordes, although it required defeat of his Tribe and his death at the hand of Temujin.

    This history of both produced the greatest achievement of the Mongol Empire, via Temujin's grandson Kublai Khan.. the Founder of the Yuan Dynasty

    I could go on, but then I would be a PITA.
     
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  7. John Kamps
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    John Kamps Well-Known Member

    No, please, go on....

    You are enlightened! More then I can say for the likes of Colonel MacGregor, formerly in US army, now a turncoat. He was on Russian TV blasting Ukrainians for sinking their 3rd shadow fleet tanker today:D
    He lamented that they re defenceless, well they are breaking the law and deserve to be sunk. Just like U-boots did in WW2.
    To go on....this fool stated, that give Putin the opportunity to take Odesa. Man sakes alive, your hero Putin has been trying to take a small Donets town named Provkosh for 19 months loosing 200K men. Are you kidding me, you and Scott Ritter should crawl back in the sewer you came from. Then that old fart Lavrov stated only Trump understands Russia and its demands for Ukrainian capitulation, I think Generals Kellogg/ Ben Hodges/ David Patraeus should be informing the President about true nature of conflict. Certainly Witkoff and Kushner are clueless or on Putins payroll.
     
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  8. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Yeah.... What's up with that anyway?
     
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