anti-Muslim statements without proof

It would be comical if it were not so hateful. I have not read one shread of real info that approaches proof in any of these anti-Muslim posts. Just right-wingers doing the only thing they can do SPOUTING OFF.
Once you get beyond the emotion there is NOTHING THERE.

 

Too right! The Islamiphobes here don't know what they're talking about.If they bothered reading that BBC link I posted yesterday,then they will learn something new.

Aidan.

 

Listen Danr, I once was naive as you when it came to Islam. But, after 15 months of my life in the country where this manifestation from hell sprouted I changed my opinion, QUICK. The Muslims who are the most radical indeed are the Lazy, Stupid, Filthy, Thieving, Sinister Looking ones. Just imagine horns on that SOB from Iran and your looking at the Anti-Christ. Only thing is there are more and more of them and they're breeding like rats under a grain silo and sadly we're the ones sending them that grain.

I pity the people who don't see or turn a blind eye to their own worst enemy. I want peace just as much as you, but there is a difference in the type of life we choose to lead while this peace is holding and I don't want a bit in my mouth, whereas you...

There is NOTHING redeeming or hopeful associated with Islam... ZILCH

B

 

I believe your right there Bones, and I for one am tired of hearing such BS as Danr puts out as HIS "truths". I have done exactly what I should have done a long time ago and done away with him and his nonsense. 'Ignore' is the best thing that this forum could do with such individuals. It shuts them down and there isn't a single thing they can do about it. So by me exercising one of my rights 'not hearing anything from you', the only thing I can immagine you can claim is you have lost another of your rights to be heard. Yah! Its gone!

Man this is sure nice having it this way. I bet I get as many answers while he's on ignore as I got with him belly aching all the time. I believe I know what Danr's motto is, "I will defend to your death my right to my opinion."

 

Ok that is legit personal experience stuff you are not pretending to be a Koran scholar, and you do not site a lot of numbers without a source. I can accept it or reject it, I do believe that you spent time there and met some dirtbags. I spent time in Philly and met dirtbags also but I recognize that there are cool people there also.

 

Then you haven't read the threads very carefully, becuase several shreds of real info that approaches, and reaches, real proof has been offerered. Read them again. Did you miss the statistics of attacks by extremist Muslims, quotes directly from the Koran, etc.? You must have, if by your own admission you haven't read "one shread of real info."

 

I'm not sure that Danr needs to reread the posts as I'm sure he sees things clearly, but like taking a picture, you got to remove the lens cap. Danr is incapable of doing this with his bull headedness and hatred. A truely sad case!

 

I have been reading, and mostly I see that some people take Koran quotes out of context and give stories and such without a source. I do not remember ever seeing a hate post with a source.

 

Islam should be OUTLAWED in prisons as a start. Harsh steps MUST be taken during times of war and we're in one baby. In one with Muslims...

B

 

You are just standing on the side lines heckeling me huh:stooge:
That is supposed to be the stooges.

 

OK, I'll bite. Care to explain the "context" of these quotes from the Koran?

 

Hey Troodon...you are NOT allowed to post that unless you are a Koran scholar...that's what Danr stated so your post and any reference to the Koran is "SLIMEY HATE"...

Yeah, right...truth hurts, doesn't it Danr??

 

Ever hear of the book of Joshua (it is in the Bible). Same type of thing.

You need things like historical context, original language, exegesis. There is no more shallow approach to any scripture than what you have done here. I really can not overstate that the approach that you are taking with these scriptures is beyond shallow, it would absolutely drive any person who deals with scripture in a serious way to call you an absolute fool (No offence but a scripture scholar would say that).


There are VERY intellegent poeple who spend 12 hours a day for decades on end looking this stuff over, considering nuances of single words in original language (BTW original Arabic is VERY important to Muslims) what you have done here is NOT KOSHER

 

Real shallow way to approach scripture. Not a legit use of scripture, not by a long shot.

 

SO you got one line from Joshua...big freakin deal. It isn't causing Jews and Christians to kill themself for salvation.

Remember, mohammad (the big dog) wrote the Koran that millions fellow to the letter of muslim law. Joshua was just one of many books in the Bible. Big difference is you don't see Jews or Christians killing muslims for salvation.

You danced around Troodon's question...so PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THESE PASSAGES ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!!

 

First I never said that the lunatic frindge who misunderstand the Koran (as you do) are kosher. That small (not millions) group are ignorant fools who have not taken the study of the Koran seriously.
Again the burden of proof is not on me. I am not an Islam scholar neither are you. You have simply lifted a bunch of quote from the Koran, that is not a serious approach. AGAIN THAT IS NOT A SERIOUS APPROACH. It is so shallow that it is inconcieveable that you would entertain it. Find me a serious person who takes those quotes the way you do. Your interpretation is not only out of the mainstream IT IS OFF THE MAP.

 

I didn't write this hate book, mohammad did...his words are there for all to read...

Are you saying that only muslim scholars can read the Koran and interpret it??

so again, PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THESE PASSAGES ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!!

 

I don't know, if you read Arabic and have a phd in a related field I may be wrong.

 

So... it is not a serious approach to understanding a religion by quoting the text they hold to be the holy complete truth. OK, guess that's why I'm not a theology major. How then would you explain this text? You claim these quotes are taken out of context, then what is the context? What did Mohammed really mean when he wrote it? Is there some verse where he wrote "just kidding" or "I don't literally mean for you to do this"?

You're the one who claimed that the anti-Islamic statements on this site are baseless, and without proof... well here proof has been offered, directly from the book practitioners of Islam hold sacred, and you offer no explanation except to claim it is ignorant to just quote it. I would argue that it is impossible to understand Islam for what it is without paying attention to its teachings. The more I've read of the Koran, the more clear it is that it's the so-called extremists who are more devoutly following Islam, rather than the moderate majority. Which is a good thing for the world as a whole I suppose. But one can not pretent that Islam is a peaceful religion simply because the majority of Muslims choose to ignore the tenents of it that very clearly condone and command violence.

Again, you still haven't answered the question... how were those quotes directly from the Koran taken out of context? If they don't mean what they appear to, then what do they mean? No dancing around the question allowed, no attacks on the askers of the question or the question itself allowed, no claiming only an Islamic scholar could possibly understand allowed. If you can't directly answer the question, I have to assume it's because you either don't have an answer, or don't like what the answer clearly is. My answer is that it means exactly what it clearly says. I don't see any room for alternate interpretations, I don't see any amiguity, if you do, I'd be glad for you to point it out. Some Muslims have chosen to follow the Koran to the letter, while others simply choose to ignore the parts they don't like. It's the truly faithful we have to worry about.