So Romney Pays A 15% Tax Rate and Still Wants Lower Taxes?

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

10 - By being Mormons we are assured of salvation - even if we are wrong
We believe that even if we are wrong about Mormonism, God will forgive us since we believed in Christ just like the Christians said we should. If we are right, and we know we are, then we will be together forever with our families as gods. Why should we want to be anything other than Mormons since we have all our bases covered?

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

11 - Since we have the name of Christ in our church - our church is the only true one.
Only the true church would have Christ's name in it. We ignore the fact that the Doctrine and Covenants and other books were published by the church when Joseph Smith had the church renamed for several years as the Church of the Latter-day Saints.

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

12 - We believe in the Book of Mormon
We believe in a book which has no archeological support whatsoever and claim it is a religious record of various peoples who populated the Americas for over 2600 years from around 2200 BC to 420 AD. We believe that the second group of people who occupied the Americas were Jewish and spoke Hebrew and kept their records in reformed Egyptian. These people also numbered in the millions and somehow they left no tangible proof of their existence. Some Mormons believe that in the near future the leaders of the church will admit that the peoples the book describes are fictional, but maintain that the book still contains religious truths.

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

13 - The fruits of Mormonism prove it is the true church
We believe by manipulating statistics we can show we have a superior belief system. We disregard statistics which are embarrassing to our position such as the high divorce rate in Utah.

 

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons -- One at a time

14 Since there are people who oppose our beliefs - our beliefs must be true
We believe that those who write against us and assail our beliefs are proof that we are the only true church. Only the true church would have anything bad said about it. The Devil fights against the truth.
This is from a letter received from an Internet friend 2/8/96:
"As a Mormon for my entire life, the very first time I felt persecuted for my beliefs was when I tried to leave the LDS faith. Never on my mission did I ever feel opposed (I went to a foreign country with virtually no anti-Mormons). Never did I feel like someone didn't allow me the "same priviledge of worshipping God according to the dictates of my own conscience" until MY OWN FAMILY found out I no longer believed in the fairy tales of Mormonism. Then all of a sudden my active LDS mother-in-law thought it would be "better" for my wife to leave me. All this despite the fact that my wife loves me, I love my wife and child, and I hadn't even committed anything the Mormon church would consider a sin (except perhaps apostasy, but apostatizing from a lie is no sin in my book). Anyway, if "only the [truth] would have anything bad said about it" the reaction I received by leaving the LDS church meant I was heading into the truth."

 

Hope you had fun doing that.

 

I think that Moen saw he lost the fight about the tax rate and is switching it to a religious thing now.
I think one of the reasons why the investment tax code is lower is to encourage more investing as well as the fact that the money used for investing was already taxed in the first place as income, captail gains from elsewhere, etc.

 

In reality, the investment income could have been taxed several times over if profits & dividends were reinvested. I have several investments I've paid taxes on over the years but never took that profit in-hand, I just rolled it back in.

 

Someone who does not pay taxes does not understand that. Someone else who has brought a house they could never afford and got a higher interest rate for they were high risk but a law suit if denied would never understand that. Someone else who has tens of thousands of dollars of credit card debt and no means to pay it off does not understand that.
Investment dollars is what helps make an economy work and I agree with you that they are overtaxed in the first place.

 

And how did you determine that I lost the debate? I don't remember losing the debate. Maybe you could recap the entire "debate" for us and point out how you came to your conclusion.

The last thing you posted was…

To which I posted…

And from that you have declared that I lost the debate. Hum?

You do know that to actually win a debate, it takes more than just declaring your side the winner? Right?

 

BACK ON TRACK PLEASE CHILDREN​

 

Did you really censor/delete some posts because you found them off topic?

 

Oh that evil, evil Romney:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...s-and-charity/2012/01/24/gIQAGe4qNQ_blog.html
http://campaign2012.washingtonexami...al/romney-needs-no-apology-tax-returns/333821

$7m to charities? I have a new found respect for Romney.
Now you know the rest of the story.....

 

Correction - 13.9% with accounts in Swiss banks and the Cayman Islands. See, I can admit when I'm wrong.

 

I'll bet the $7m he gave to charities was better spent than if he had given to BO!!

 

And donated 16.4% to charity.

You say 13.9% as though it is supposed to be a gotcha moment. Just how much is he supposed to pay?

 

The Mormon Church requires a 10% tithing. The issue here has nothing to do with charitable giving, or supporting one more religious cult, it has to do with supporting the institution that keeps us all safe, builds our roads, keeps our water clean and our food safe to eat, defends our borders, and on and on.

The apologists for the super wealthy don't get the fact that the wealthy have used their wealth to buy our government, create loop holes that favor themselves, and utterly corrupt the political system of this country until the absurdity is so blatant that it is impossible to overlook anymore. Well, except by their apologists anyway.

Case in point; One couple has changed the Republican primary race by throwing 10 million dollars into Gingrich’s super-PAC. Can you or I buy that much influence into the political system or are you just OK with wealth dictating the party leadership? You'd have to be blindly insane to think any wealthy person should have that much influence over our political system. And you know something; I'm not entirely convinced that isn't the case.

 

Funny, I was sitting here getting ready for BO's campaign speech & noticed his cabinet being introduced...particularly Timothy Geitner. I couldn't help but think of moen's criticism of Romney's tax returns. Romney pays millions & millions in taxes yet moen bashes him. Geitner is an admitted tax cheat yet is held in high regard by the far left whackos. Smell like a double standard?

 

And to put Mr. Romney's donations in perspective. BO gave less than 1% of his income the year before he became president. Oh, and Biden gave a whole $320 the year before he became Veep. Now there is some real generosity for you.