Thank you for bringing this up. Let's see, where do I start?...Since U.S. and U.N. peacekeeping forces left in 1995, Islamic mobs have murdered more than 500 Christians in Somalia...that is what WE know! These acts were intentional, not accidential like a SUV mishap. Concerns over radical Islam developing in Rwanda has been noted among the international community. The spread of radical Islamists from northern Africa into Sub-Saharan Africa has gathered considerable attention. The international crackdown on Islamist extremism has sent many students from the madrassas in Pakistan to Africa where they are gaining influence among communities and with political leaders. A push for expanding Shari'ah is evident in Tanzania and Kenya and increasingly arrests of radicals have been made in Malawi, Zambia and South Africa. How about the Sudan with over 1.5 million dead? Islamic terrorists from the north have been killing and raping non-muslims for over 20 years! Chad hasn't been so bad with only 15,000 killed. You can thank muslims for this war too! Here's some better numbers...75,000 have been killed in Algeria. Again muslim terrorists are fighting the government for control of the land, government, and its resources. Face it, Africa has over 20% of the world's land mass with a bunch of natural resources and islam is determined to make the whole continent of 800 million people loyal to allah! Wake up people!
Midas, Your welcome. At least you read my post accurately. I honestly believe that jwevansv has a learning disability.
You are still a dumbass, bc I wasn't referring to deaths in Africa, I was responding to your ignorant ANALOGY! Why must you change the subject from you not knowing what an ananogy is to deaths in Africa? I just made it easy for you to click on that link to see the definition. How many times do I have to say it before you understand? Here this may help but I doubt it. I am talking about your ignorant ANALOGY, which I was right in the definition and you were wrong! Why don't you apologize and admit I am right about what an analogy is? I bet you are too ashamed to admit you were wrong? Midas, were you agreeing with Cloudsweeper? Didn't sound like it to me.
As I stated above, islamic attacks are intentional and SUV deaths are accidental. You can't compare a traffic mishap to an act that is well thought out with the intent to kil. In the islamic terrorist handbook, the koran, you find passages like: (2:39) "Those who reject faith (Islam) and belie our signs, They shall be Companions of the Fire and abide in it." (2:89-90) "The Curse of Allah is on those without faith (in Islam) Thus have they drawn wrath upon wrath on themselves and humiliating is the punishment of those who reject faith (Islam)." However, in your typical SUV owner's manual, you will find things like, "Buckle your seatbelt and drive safely". So to answer your question, I do believe this analogy is without merit and a far reach.
Midas, Thanks for clarifying that. Since no analogy was made, I'll have to put you into the jwevansv category. I thought you understood that the intent of my communication was to let you know that your figures weren't impressively large and excluded the deaths in the African conflict. Let me repost my message in language that I hope you can understand: Your jihad numbers are not large. They aren't even as large as the number of traffic deaths. Don't be surprised that nobody takes them seriously. You should include the deaths in the African conflict in your numbers. There you have it. Simple declarative sentences. I hope this helps you. Nothing complex. No analogy. No equivalence. I'll try to keep it simple for you next time. This will be my last post in this thread to you also because I just can't simplify it any further.
So the number of attacks, deaths, and injuries that occur on a WEEKLY basis are NOT impressive?? I guess that islamic jihadist attacks happen so frequently that suicide bombings have just become part the 'normal' landscape in the day and life of islamic terrorits. Too bad you don't see that as 'news' anymore. What a shame...what a shame. It is this type of apathy that will give islamic jihadists more confidence and the will to kill more non-muslims since it appears that many people don't give a damn what these animals are doing.
I am more than sure that there are any number of people around here who think you and your high & mighty oppinion of yourself should take your simplification and put it where the sun don't shine. As for me, I'll just say goodby!:hail:
Latest worldwide WEEKLY Jihad update: 5,476 islamic attacks since 9/11 and counting... Weekly Jihad Report (7/23- 7/29/06): Jihad Attacks: 37 Dead Bodies: 195 Critically Injured: 485 I guess these numbers are NOT impressive enough for a period of only 7 days! Let's see what islamic jihadists have been up to in the last couple of days: Twelve people, including seven pilgrims going to the Amarnath (India) cave shrine, were wounded when islamic militants tossed a grenade at a passing pilgrims’ bus in Batmaloo area. The other five wounded in the explosion are civilians. Muslim militants abducted a bakery owner and her son on a remote southern Philippine island, a police official said on Friday, warning of a possible resurgence of kidnappings by notorious rebel Islamic militiant group Abu Sayyaf. Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora has thanked Hizbollah for its "sacrifices" in its war against Israel. Witnesses (in Austrialia) told police they saw a group of "Middle Eastern men" laughing and running down the street shortly after the synagogue in Parramatta, western Sydney was stoned late Sunday. They yelled, "Allah is great!, Allah is Great!" Again is Austrilia...Muslim Rape Gang Leader Smiles As He Is Sentenced! There is something deeply disturbing about this case. Rape is always something vile, violent and unconscionable. That it should happen in a gang of up to 14 members, when its youngest victim was 16, is bad enough. That the rapists are unrepentant, and with one Muslim "spokesman" now saying that the leaders of the gang should be "honoured and respected", makes the case more sickening still. Not bad for ONE week, wouldn't you say?
Old Dan, let me know if you ever attempt to make a thoughtful contribution to any discussion. I've never seen one and it will be interesting to see you try. It might have been more useful to take advantage of longevity to accumulate wisdom instead of a library of insults. But it's your life to waste. Good luck to you.
You go out into the woods and find 14 trees that have been chopped down. You place one of the gang on each tree stump and nail his you know what to the stump. When they are all nailed down, you go along and let little girls with long poles, push them off the stump backwards. Allow them to bleed-out and then transport the remains to a hog farm and toss them in among the hogs, all the time haveing a camera rolling to be shown on Muslim TV. I'll be happy to supply the nails, long poles and film for the camera!:thumb:
Speak for yourself. Personally I take any senseless death at the hands of a terrorist seriously! How old are you? weren't you born on 9/11? I guess you think nobody took that seriously either? I noticed you have mentioned the un-importance of Midas's figures several times. I have also noticed that somewhere in every one of your replies you have insulted the other person by insulting their intelligence. Have you done a background check on every person here to reach these conclusions or do you just assume that you are more intelligent than everyone else? For being so intelligent your above quote was pretty da-n stupid!
Good riddance. Take your ignorance with you too? Seems as if you are on a cloud of your own? Go spread your anti U.S. propaganda somewhere else. It seems as if only the anti U.S. posters in this forum believe in what you are espousing.
[QUOTE='Ol Silver]Speak for yourself. Personally I take any senseless death at the hands of a terrorist seriously! How old are you? weren't you born on 9/11? I guess you think nobody took that seriously either? I noticed you have mentioned the un-importance of Midas's figures several times. I have also noticed that somewhere in every one of your replies you have insulted the other person by insulting their intelligence. Have you done a background check on every person here to reach these conclusions or do you just assume that you are more intelligent than everyone else? For being so intelligent your above quote was pretty da-n stupid![/QUOTE] Let's review your inaccuracies. I didn't say or imply that I didn't take deaths at the hands of terrorist "seriously." If I did, can you supply my quote? Another reading comprehension problem I guess. I also didn't call Midas, figures "unimportant." If I did, please supply my quote. I didn't state or imply that I did not take 9-11 seriously. If I did, please supply my quote. You are quoted as saying, "I guess you think..." This is exactly correct. You are guessing at what I'm thinking instead of reading what I am writing. I also didn't say that I'm more intelligent than everyone else. If I did, please supply my quote. If you read carefully, you will find that I never insulted anyone who didn't insult me first - sort of like what you did. Finally, why are you still spelling your own name incorrectly?
Why are you so concerned about how 'Ol Silver spells his username? Just like a liberal to get in the personal business of an individual.
Cloudsweeper, your post was indeed making a comparison by way of an analogy. You were comparing the political and social reaction of the american society to two unrelated tragic problems facing today's society. While I understand you were not comparing the two tragedies, you were in fact comparing how we as a society respond to each. As stated by someone else, Traffic Accidents are just that - ACCIDENTS. Not the same as premeditated murder. Therefor our reactions cannot be compared. Now Cloudsweep apologize to jwe and jwe apologize back. how cute they are hugging.
I don't see why I should apologize since I just pointed out that his analogy was seriously flawed bc he is comparing totally different things. Then he says he isnt comparing and says I am the one who needs a lesson in the definition of ANALOGY. I suppose the best thing to come of this debate is that Cloudsweeper learned a new word before he hit elementary school. He is grades ahead of his peers now.
Welcome to the forum Clark! I hope you brought Beverly D'Angelo with you. Thanks for your post in conveying what I obviously did not communicate properly. One of my favorite lines from the movie... Cousin Eddie: "You know Clark, I don't know why they call it Hamburger Helper, I think it is just fine by itself."
Sorry but you left out the best part of the quote - Tuna Helper? LMAOcopter! I prefer Fletch actually, but not Fletch 2.
Sorry Clark, but there was no analogy. Lets use jwe's own definition in the link he provided: "Analogy is the comparison of two pairs which have the same relationship. The key is to ascertain the relationship between the first so you can choose the correct second pair. Part to whole, opposites, results of are types of relationships you should find. Example: hot is to cold as fire is to ice OR hot:cold::fire:ice " I didn't use an analogy. I simply pointed out the fact that there are more traffic death in the US than jihad killings in Midas count. I also gave Midas a big hint that his numbers didn't appear to contain the deaths in the African wars, many of which can also be considered part of the jihad death toll depending on how you define it. Many more people are being killed in Africa than in the Middle East, but it gets less press coverage. I also didn't say that traffic accidents are the same as premeditated murder. If you think I did, please provide my quote. I also never made a comment about how we, as a society, respond to jihad. It just isn't in there, nobody asked me about it, and I never offered an opinion on the subject. The essence of communication is intention, Clark. Something for both of us to keep in mind. People are trying to read more into the post than is there. It means what it says, and there is no hidden political message. Maybe that's the problem. It doesn't say what people wished it had said. When I wrote it, I expected that any comments would be directed at the last line, which is meaningful, not the proceeding paragraph, which is relatively empty of meaning. If I had known in advance that my relatively simple posting would have caused so many people to start spitting up blood, I would have kept it simple and direct, or maybe not bothered posting it at all. After all, it isn't really important. Thanks for commenting.